US has signed a very powerful treaty with China, India, South Korea, Japan and Australia(they haven´t signed too, the protocol of Kyoto) with the equation more realistic and good, more technology, less pollution, not like the european bureaucrats wanted destroying our industry and destroying works. But the welfare state is infinite for them.
Do you think accusing the Bush Administration of ignorance and anti-intellectualism is less offensive than accusing we who support Bush Administration of ignorance and anti-intellectualism?
How hard would it have been to say Kyoto should apply to every country? Its not rocket science to understand that the US will (hopefully) never approve a poorly thought out treaty that will put jobs at risk and give a competitive advantage to the fastest growing economy on the planet. If it applied to all countries then the odds of the US signing on would be a lot higher.
I heard the same thing but can’t remember what talk show had the topic on.
This is most certainly not the case. The antarctic is one of the dryest places on the planet, receiving less precipitation than most of the great deserts of the world. The antarctic ice cap would most likely decrease even without the mechanisims of global warming simply because its present climate is a net loss of water.
I would like to see some studies referenced if anyone has any. I really don’t know what is happening down there.
The Antarctic is on the OPPOSITE pole of the earth. Could it be that THE EARTH IS MORE TILTED THAN BEFORE??? Causing the Arctic Pole to be more sunny and the Antarctic Pole to be more shadowy??? Also, in combination with this, be sure to take into account the fact that the earth’s rotation around the sun is an ellipse. For example, if the Arctic is tilted towards the sun in the summer when the earth is near the sun, a more tilted earth would cause the Arctic to receive more radiation and heat from the sun, and then when winter comes, and the earth is far from the sun in its orbit, a more shadowy Arctic will cause it to be much colder than in prior years. THE SUMATRA QUAKE THIS PAST CHRISTMAS MAY HAVE TILTED THE EARTH A LITTLE BIT. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
So, are you saying Dr. Lindzen is a nut-job? I always thought MIT hired really, really smart people…
Well back in 2003 the Guardian reported this :
In winter, pack ice covers an area of more than 7 million square miles around Antarctica, shrinking to 1.5 million square miles during the southern hemisphere summer. At its greatest extent, the ice field is bigger than Russia. Several studies in recent years have shown that sea ice around Antarctica has increased since the 1970s, but Dr Curran said that the short timescale of those studies failed to take longer-term trends into account. "Until now, records have relied to a large degree on satellite observations since the 1970s. Thirty years is a very short time over which to draw any conclusions," he said. A Nasa satellite study released last week showed that the growth of pack ice since the end of the 1970s was preceded by a period of shrinkage between 1973 and 1978. The break-up of the Arctic pack ice in recent years has also highlighted concerns about the implications of sea ice decline.
I said no such thing, I’m sure Dr. Lindzen is an intelligent person and yes, MIT is a fine institution. I will say that the Cato Institute, a Libertarian think tank, is hardly capable of publishing a peer reviewed journal.
Thanks,
**The area covered by sea ice in the Arctic has shrunk for a fourth consecutive year, according to new data released by US scientists. **They say that this month sees the lowest extent of ice cover for more than a century. The Arctic climate varies naturally
Ah yes, the ice shrinks…ok big deal. Whoever said the earth’s climate was stable? We are leaving an iceage, and before then the earth was a great deal hotter than it is now. It always seems to bounce back without too much of a problem.
So they have been studying it for how long? Do they even have data for one solar cycle (11 year cycle)? How about more than one? For the length of man’s polution history? How can they even prove this?
Ah yes, when they can predict the temperatures for next year/month/week by that accuracy I might listen to their 100 year prediction.
Well I for one am in support of the kyoto agreement, it infuriated me some years back at the G8 summit when President Bush refused to accpet that humans have an effect over climate control and global warming. How can America, perhaps the country that will have the greatest effect on global warming refuse to accept any responsibility? Especially with more erratic weather conditions such as Katrina and Rita occuring more frequently.
