Are all other worlds deprived of God?

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:clapping::extrahappy:🤓 GOD’s evolving divine plan includes all the Cosmic Universe until the Annihilation…

God says;
“Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence, and false-ego–altogether these eight comprise My separate material energies. Besides this inferior nature, there is a superior energy of Mine which is, all living entities who are struggling with material nature and sustaining the Universe”
I could go into what I believe to be the not-so-complicated relationship between the Devil and the Bhagavad-Gita, but I’m saying this because it says that you’re Catholic:

Anyone who gives credence to a god who claims to be deliberately deceiving the human race, and whose gurus have proven themselves time and time again to be a group of psychopaths, pedophiles, and murderers (unlike the priests of the Catholic Church, who believe it or not have a lower rate of pedophilia than laymen), and whose holy book is a dialogue between a reluctant warrior and a man claiming to be God telling someone why they should kill the members of their own family in battle, and that he’s going to kill everyone and destroy the entire universe, and that we live in an age of darkness which lasts 432,000 years in which atheistic demons rise up and destroy religion should pause to consider whether they have been deceived by evil or not.
 
Scientific inventions and discoveries have fulfilled what were universally assumed to be imaginative flights of fancy a hundred years ago!
There is no obvious reason why extra-terrestrial life need be revealed to us by God. But that does not mean I believe science can explain everything! 🙂
 
There is no obvious reason why extra-terrestrial life need be revealed to us by God. But that does not mean I believe science can explain everything! 🙂
Neither is there reason for it to exist. From John 1:1-3, we know that all that exists came into existence through Christ. Since He is capable of neither deceiving nor of being deceived, would not some bit of information have been revealed?

Since the rocket age, combined with the advent of science fiction, seems to coincide with the genesis of thought regarding extraterrestrial life, is it not based upon man’s accomplishments rather than Gods?
 
This interesting subject has come up on the catholic.org forums. Here are my comments when it came up again not long ago. 😉

Ah, yes. It’s a heavy burden knowing everything. 😃
Just some random thoughts.

First, Jesus was begotten, not ‘created’, as you’ve stated above. This is quite explicit in Church doctrine. If He were created, he could not be co-eternal with the Father, and He could not have been the Word made flesh.

In John’s Gospel, the concept of Logos–the Word–suggests that God is infused through all His creation. God’s wisdom and judgement are perfect, and His ways are not our ways. Jesus is not only the Incarnation on Earth, He is the Word of God as well, and existed before all worlds. God will work out the redemption of all of His creation as He sees fit. Whether that is by Jesus’ Incarnation on Earth, or by some other means in other worlds, is a mystery–something we cannot know. It would be presumption to suggest we can, because we would be placing restrictions on what God can do.

The action of the Holy Spirit is not limited to time and space. He is the giver of life. He has spoken through the prophets on Earth. Perhaps He has given life and inspired prophets elsewhere. But that life may not be identical to us, and those prophets may not be like Isiah and Elijah, because the prophets of the OT were earthbound humans. They spoke universal truths, but those truths were expressed in a way that is relevant to our circumstances on Earth.

The Bible says nothing about extraterrestrial life, but it, and Church tradition, do talk about other creatures–angels, demons, etc. I am not suggesting that these live on other planets, just that it is never suggested that we are the only intelligent life–not the only beings invested with freewill. Some of these creatures chose to obey and serve God; others rebelled against Him.

Beings on other planets, if they exist, may be nothing like us physically, so the Incarnation of God as man would be completely meaningless to them. I doubt that God would create a race of beings in His image, and then provide no means for their salvation, because he would love them just as he loves us.

In our redemption story, God uses ordinary things–water, wood, nails, bread, wine–as means of our salvation. These may not be the ordinary things of other planets. The Bible speaks only of Earth’s creation in any detail, but it does say that He created Heaven and Earth. Perhaps He would use the ordinary materials of another planet to make Himself known there.

Jesus’ death and Resurrection, no doubt, did have an effect on the entire universe, but how God reveals Himself and interacts with the beings in other places is another question.

For all I know, humans are God’s only chosen race; this is all speculation. But I do know that God is all knowing, all powerful, and all loving.

Am I making any sense?
 
I could go into what I believe to be the not-so-complicated relationship between the Devil and the Bhagavad-Gita, but I’m saying this because it says that you’re Catholic:

Anyone who gives credence to a god who claims to be deliberately deceiving the human race, and whose gurus have proven themselves time and time again to be a group of psychopaths, pedophiles, and murderers (unlike the priests of the Catholic Church, who believe it or not have a lower rate of pedophilia than laymen), and whose holy book is a dialogue between a reluctant warrior and a man claiming to be God telling someone why they should kill the members of their own family in battle, and that he’s going to kill everyone and destroy the entire universe, and that we live in an age of darkness which lasts 432,000 years in which atheistic demons rise up and destroy religion should pause to consider whether they have been deceived by evil or not.
Truly…and anyone who questions an ancient scripture of GOD, which has a great deal of Knowledge for all Humanity, both Spiritually and Scientifically…continues in the mode of Passion and in the Mode of Ignorance.

GOD is not deceiving you…and be certain GOD has not deceived me…this Science of GOD was re-relayed 5,000 years ago and had been provided to Humanity, thousands of years before that…it was re-relayed by GOD Incarnated because it became LOST to Humanity, in it’s simplist practice and understanding for Humanity’s Salvation and Redemption, of how to return to GODHEAD… that it was mis-interpreted by some of Humanity, does not change that fact. It is only Humanity which changes and interprets holy scriptures to suit itself…

The fighting within the battle called for by GOD, was Liberation/Salvation, for the continued Evolution of the family’s Spiritsouls. Many of those family members were already Liberated as one with GOD and GOD had other plans for them…whether they were re-incarnated or were rewarded with the return to GODHEAD, was between them and GOD.

If we believe that the Jewish GOD is one and the same GOD, as I do, there are many people who said and found Him a cruel GOD for the same reasons. How can dying and becoming saved by GOD, be cruel? We were not created by GOD to remain in a material existence…that would indeed be cruel…

I agree with the man description of murderers, pedophiles, etc…it is a man thing, right?.. Prevalent in all societies whether religious and found in all societies…I can’t help you there. They are definitely in darkness and evil as are all demoniac men (passionate and ignorant) and punishment awaits them…as GOD wills…

That the Universe will eventually be Annihilated by GOD…this is true. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the End”.

Do not fear the End, as we are all drawn back to GOD, and just prepare your own Spiritsoul…

GOD says:“At the End of the millennium, every material manifestation enters unto My nature, and at the beginning of another millennium, by My potency I again create. The whole cosmic order is under Me. By My will it is manifested again and again, and by My will is it annihilated, at the End.”

This is Knowledge, which is in The Mode of Goodness…and is a path to Humanity’s finding the Path to Return to GOD, GODHEAD.
 
Truly…and anyone who questions an ancient scripture of GOD, which has a great deal of Knowledge for all Humanity, both Spiritually and Scientifically…continues in the mode of Passion and in the Mode of Ignorance.

GOD is not deceiving you…and be certain GOD has not deceived me…this Science of GOD was re-relayed 5,000 years ago and had been provided to Humanity, thousands of years before that…it was re-relayed by GOD Incarnated because it became LOST to Humanity, in it’s simplist practice and understanding for Humanity’s Salvation and Redemption, of how to return to GODHEAD… that it was mis-interpreted by some of Humanity, does not change that fact. It is only Humanity which changes and interprets holy scriptures to suit itself…

The fighting within the battle called for by GOD, was Liberation/Salvation, for the continued Evolution of the family’s Spiritsouls. Many of those family members were already Liberated as one with GOD and GOD had other plans for them…whether they were re-incarnated or were rewarded with the return to GODHEAD, was between them and GOD.

If we believe that the Jewish GOD is one and the same GOD, as I do, there are many people who said and found Him a cruel GOD for the same reasons. How can dying and becoming saved by GOD, be cruel? We were not created by GOD to remain in a material existence…that would indeed be cruel…

I agree with the man description of murderers, pedophiles, etc…it is a man thing, right?.. Prevalent in all societies whether religious and found in all societies…I can’t help you there. They are definitely in darkness and evil as are all demoniac men (passionate and ignorant) and punishment awaits them…as GOD wills…

That the Universe will eventually be Annihilated by GOD…this is true. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the End”.

Do not fear the End, as we are all drawn back to GOD, and just prepare your own Spiritsoul…

GOD says:“At the End of the millennium, every material manifestation enters unto My nature, and at the beginning of another millennium, by My potency I again create. The whole cosmic order is under Me. By My will it is manifested again and again, and by My will is it annihilated, at the End.”

This is Knowledge, which is in The Mode of Goodness…and is a path to Humanity’s finding the Path to Return to GOD, GODHEAD.
By your fruits you will know them.

If the Kali Yuga were true, it would mean that GOD as you put it, wants to make us shrug our shoulders about evil as we plunge into an “Age of Darkness” which lasts for 432,000 years, and that spiritual teachers will become evil people, families will fight each other, lust will be acceptable, religion will be wiped out, violence will occur, and by the end of the age, human beings will live for 20 years and be reduced in height, and then GOD is going to kill everyone in the entire universe.

There is little evidence that we do live in he Kali Yuga, but there is evidence that what you call “asuras” or people with the “atheistic nature of demons” are MORE THAN HAPPY to have this viewpoint promoted, and may even be the one’s promoting it by spiritually enslaving their followers, and spiritually assaulting Western society!

It is IMPOSSIBLE for the Kali Yuga theory to be true and simultaneously last 432,000 years, because a humanity in such a condition would DESTROY ITSELF long before that because we have the technology to do it!
 
Truly…and anyone who questions an ancient scripture of GOD, which has a great deal of Knowledge for all Humanity, both Spiritually and Scientifically…continues in the mode of Passion and in the Mode of Ignorance.

GOD is not deceiving you…and be certain GOD has not deceived me…this Science of GOD was re-relayed 5,000 years ago and had been provided to Humanity, thousands of years before that…it was re-relayed by GOD Incarnated because it became LOST to Humanity, in it’s simplist practice and understanding for Humanity’s Salvation and Redemption, of how to return to GODHEAD… that it was mis-interpreted by some of Humanity, does not change that fact. It is only Humanity which changes and interprets holy scriptures to suit itself…

The fighting within the battle called for by GOD, was Liberation/Salvation, for the continued Evolution of the family’s Spiritsouls. Many of those family members were already Liberated as one with GOD and GOD had other plans for them…whether they were re-incarnated or were rewarded with the return to GODHEAD, was between them and GOD.

If we believe that the Jewish GOD is one and the same GOD, as I do, there are many people who said and found Him a cruel GOD for the same reasons. How can dying and becoming saved by GOD, be cruel? We were not created by GOD to remain in a material existence…that would indeed be cruel…

I agree with the man description of murderers, pedophiles, etc…it is a man thing, right?.. Prevalent in all societies whether religious and found in all societies…I can’t help you there. They are definitely in darkness and evil as are all demoniac men (passionate and ignorant) and punishment awaits them…as GOD wills…

That the Universe will eventually be Annihilated by GOD…this is true. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the End”.

Do not fear the End, as we are all drawn back to GOD, and just prepare your own Spiritsoul…

GOD says:“At the End of the millennium, every material manifestation enters unto My nature, and at the beginning of another millennium, by My potency I again create. The whole cosmic order is under Me. By My will it is manifested again and again, and by My will is it annihilated, at the End.”

This is Knowledge, which is in The Mode of Goodness…and is a path to Humanity’s finding the Path to Return to GOD, GODHEAD.
That’s not Catholicism, that’s New Age Pantheism drawn from a bastardization of a poor understanding of Hinduism and a poor understanding of Christianity, with some elements that are foreign to both thrown in.

And God never did say any such thing. There are 73 Scriptures of God - the 73 books of the Holy Catholic Bible. There are truths to be found, as in a mirror, darkly, in other religions’ scriptures, but not Truth, and not doctrine.
 
Edit: And if the being whom you think is your GOD kills me for this or my loved ones or harms me, as he has threatened to do, as he has tormented me for years the game is over, I don’t care anymore, I want to be a martyr, DO IT, be exposed, lose out, let the whole world see the evil I’ve done, let the whole world see the evil done by people who dare think they can wipe out Jehovah, let them investigate the things I’ve said, the things I’ve created, I don’t care! Do it! And for every thought that I think in accordance with the Truth I have found in Christ, every suffering from those who think they can murder God, every hindrance which has tormented me in darkness and manipulated me and turned me into a spiritual shell, every monstrous impurity I have been wracked with…the paranoia, the psychosis, the drugs, all from the “God” you worship, go to Hell! I DO NOT CARE.
 
By your fruits you will know them.

If the Kali Yuga were true, it would mean that GOD as you put it, wants to make us shrug our shoulders about evil as we plunge into an “Age of Darkness” which lasts for 432,000 years, and that spiritual teachers will become evil people, families will fight each other, lust will be acceptable, religion will be wiped out, violence will occur, and by the end of the age, human beings will live for 20 years and be reduced in height, and then GOD is going to kill everyone in the entire universe.

There is little evidence that we do live in he Kali Yuga, but there is evidence that what you call “asuras” or people with the “atheistic nature of demons” are MORE THAN HAPPY to have this viewpoint promoted, and may even be the one’s promoting it by spiritually enslaving their followers, and spiritually assaulting Western society!

It is IMPOSSIBLE for the Kali Yuga theory to be true and simultaneously last 432,000 years, because a humanity in such a condition would DESTROY ITSELF long before that because we have the technology to do it!
The Earth is already 4.5 Billion years old…much easier to stay ignorant and question GOD’s potency of what he can and cannot do…and the reasoning behind fewer and less humanity at the end times, is because most Humanity will have returned to GOD, having found Him in Spirituality, therefore, there are less and less to reincarnated…this appears to be the time of Kali (the Age of Quarrels)…as all world’s societies and cultures are suffering…
 
That’s not Catholicism, that’s New Age Pantheism drawn from a bastardization of a poor understanding of Hinduism and a poor understanding of Christianity, with some elements that are foreign to both thrown in.

And God never did say any such thing. There are 73 Scriptures of God - the 73 books of the Holy Catholic Bible. There are truths to be found, as in a mirror, darkly, in other religions’ scriptures, but not Truth, and not doctrine.
Fortunately, the message of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the New Testament and of GOD in the Bhagavad-gita AS IT IS, are the SAME, regardless of how you may view GOD’s ABSOLUTE TRUTH…for the Absolute Truth, by this term, is spoken of and relayed in both…it is for Humanity’sLiberation and Salvation, and both scriptures offer the same Redemption by GOD’s Laws…for the return unto the Path…for Humanity’s return to GOD, GODHEAD.
 
*There is no obvious reason why extra-terrestrial life need be revealed to us by God. But that does not mean I believe science can explain everything! *
His purpose in coming amongst us was not scientific but spiritual!
Since the rocket age, combined with the advent of science fiction, seems to coincide with the genesis of thought regarding extraterrestrial life, is it not based upon man’s accomplishments rather than Gods?
Undoubtedly but man’s accomplishments are due to the God-given the power of reason…
 
Fortunately, the message of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the New Testament and of GOD in the Bhagavad-gita AS IT IS, are the SAME, regardless of how you may view GOD’s ABSOLUTE TRUTH…for the Absolute Truth, by this term, is spoken of and relayed in both…it is for Humanity’sLiberation and Salvation, and both scriptures offer the same Redemption by GOD’s Laws…for the return unto the Path…for Humanity’s return to GOD, GODHEAD.
Hare Krishna and Christianity are not compatible. There is no such thing as “Krishnianity”, just as there is no “Chrislam”.

Hare Krishna, Hare Hare
Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna! And Vishnu too!
To the International Society for Krishna Consciousness:
Today I must resign my membership and ask to be struck from your membership rolls, as I have realized that chanting Hare Krishna doesn’t do anything.
Thank you.
 
I have been thinking lately and pondering this one question:

If God sent his one and only son to earth to die for the sins of man, what would happen to life on other planets?

I believe in this vast universe that there is probably another planet that can and has sustained intelligent life. How could they be aware of God’s presence when Jesus was sent to earth? Are all the other galaxies in the universe forsaken by God? Is it only humans here on earth that are his chosen race or did he send a son to them as well?

Has anyone else ever thought about this?

God’s blessings,
Joshua
Yes.

God is the Life Force of Creation. there is no “where” where God is not. So it is ludicrous to ask if there is “life out there.” there isn’t anywhere where Life isn’t. Given that, the forms that might stem from the creativity of Deity must be as infinite as the possibilities inherent in Divine Mind. For a start, look at the astonishing multiplicity on this planet, even among the limited possibilities of humans.
 
Hare Krishna and Christianity are not compatible. There is no such thing as “Krishnianity”, just as there is no “Chrislam”.

Hare Krishna, Hare Hare
Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna! And Vishnu too!
You have come around a lot of circles to be where you are now, and I am glad you have found GOD’s Love & Light…

Have you read the New Testament, cover to cover?..Have you read the Bhagavad-gita AS IT IS, (as titled and easiest to understand), cover to cover?

If you have not, how can you say whether the Message of Liberation as Salvation and the Promise of Redemption to the Return to GOD, GODHEAD…is not the same?

I have never advocated the Krsna Conscious membership…only the Knowledge of The Science of GOD as Self-Realization, that we are Spiritsouls and not just a material body, and praying for living in GOD Consciousness, to be chosen by GOD, in fulfillment of HIS promise, to return on the Path to Him…

As to the same message of the Gospel (Good News) from Our Lord Jesus in Christianity, to love our Father GOD, with all our hearts, souls and minds, and GOD would fulfill the promise of Redemption, back to GOD, GODHEAD.

👍
 
I’ve read several versions of the Bhagavad-Gita, and, although I do not read Sanskrit, I find the “As it is” version to be seriously wanting, both in comparison to other versions, and from the advice of a Hindu, “Whichever versions you get, don’t get Wendy Doniger’s Rig Veda or the Hare Krishna Bhagavad Gita”). I think Juan Mascaro’s translation is the best, from what I know and from the advice of a Hindu who does. I’ve never read a single version cover-to-cover more than once (just as I have never read a single translation of Homer more than once, although I’ve read several translations, and struggled through the original) as I have with the Bible, although I have read several versions of each cover-to-cover multiple times.

In any case, although there may be truth of a sort, reflected in a mirror, darkly, it is not the same message. A passage here or a passage there in the Bible and in the Gita may be compatible, or similar: taken on the whole, the Gita is completely incompatible with the Gospel, and the messages are irreconcilable.

We do not return to God to become one with God, or one with the universe, or one with the Universal Soul, through our own learning and accomplishment or effort: we return to God as we were before the fall, glorified and immortal, although retaining the ego/self, as the Angels are in Heaven, through the unearned and infinite grace and merit of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the God-Man born of a Virgin, who sacrificed himself on the cross to redeem us from our sins.
S. Srinivasan:
People following the path of devotion or bhakti would find this book helpful. The Author beleives that Krishna is supreme god-head and in Kali yuga or dark age, worshipping krishna’s form is the best and only path. However one is repeatedly distracted by the author’s negative comments and attacks on those who meditate on the formless Brahman.

Not stopping with that the author would sometimes go to the extent of mis-translating the verses of the Gita if Krishna himself said anything positive about the absolute and formless conciousness i.e. Brahman.

For example for the verse 24, in chapter 4

The sanskrit verse is:

brahmarpanam brahma havir
brahmagnau brahmana hutam
brahmaiva tena gantavyam
brahma-karma-samadhina

The acceptable translation in most books is

"Brahman is the oblation,
Brahman is the clarified buttter,
The oblation is poured by Brahman into the fire of Brahman.
Brahman shall be realized by the one who considers everything
As an act of Brahman. "
(Meaning the actor, action, acted and act are all brahman, one who realizes this realizes brahman)

Whereas Prabhupada’s Translation is
“A person who is fully absorbed in Krsna consciousness is sure to attain the spiritual kingdom because of his full contribution to spiritual activities, in which the consummation is absolute and that which is offered is of the same spiritual nature.”
That’s worse mistranslation than the worst of the worst Bibles by an order of magnitude. It’s not really a translation, as an extended commentary from the Krishna perspective or tradition.
2.72:
"That is Brahman-status, O prince. After obtaining it, a person is not disoriented; the one who is situated in it even at end-time does attain the Nirvana that is Brahman."
2.72 said:
"That is the way of the spiritual and godly life, after attaining which a man is not bewildered. Being so situated, even at the hour of death, one can enter into the kingdom of God."

Obvious difference, there.
 
We do not return to God to become one with God, or one with the universe, or one with the Universal Soul, through our own learning and accomplishment or effort: we return to God as we were before the fall, glorified and immortal, although retaining the ego/self, as the Angels are in Heaven, through the unearned and infinite grace and merit of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the God-Man born of a Virgin, who sacrificed himself on the cross to redeem us from our sins.
It is well and good to say that, but would you not serve yourself and us more accurately if you stated that “My belief is:…” rather than stating categorically what is in many minds a serious misunderstanding of Scriptures, ours and “theirs,” whomever they may be.
 
As a Christian, it’s not my belief, it’s the definition of Christianity. That is,


  1. *]Christianity is not Gnostic
    *]It’s not pantheist
    ]It’s not syncretic
    ]It’s not New Age
    ]It’s exclusive
    ]It’s universal
    ]It believes that salvation comes from the sacrifice of Christ, fully God and fully Man, on the Cross for our sins, who was Resurrected, whence we are saved by faith in the Risen Christ through unmerited grace.

    *]It has a canon of Scripture, and doesn’t recognize inspiration in other religions’ writings and mythologies, unless they are confirmed by the Truth of the Scriptures.

    *****This is true in Arminianism, Calvinism, Orthodoxy, and Catholicism, although the specific mechanism is different in each: i.e. do works proceed from grace? was Jesus’ atonement unlimited? was it substitutionary or satisfactory?: no tradition actually believes we are saved by works without faith, or that we earned grace, even if caricatures of one system by another seem to present it as such, such as the Calvinist assertion that Arminians are Pelagian, the general Protestant assertion that Catholics and Orthodox deny salvation by faith, the Arminian, Catholic and Orthodox assertion that double-predestination abrogates man’s free will (I think this is pretty much true, but is neither here nor there, and most Calvinists don’t believe Calvinism = Determinism).

    Relativism only goes so far - to the doors of the undergraduate philosophy, sociology and comparative religions professors. No further.
 
As a Christian, it’s not my belief, it’s the definition of Christianity. Relativism only goes so far - to the doors of the undergraduate philosophy, sociology and comparative religions professors. No further.
Uh…the definition of Christianity is that it is a belief, no?
 
I don’t think we should pigeon hole God into whether He could/would/did craft life on other worlds.

I think any reason mentioned here could be what has happened, and perhaps right now there are Catholic aliens with tentacles typing on their computers on some alien catholic internet forum talking about the same thing.

I think its kind of cool to wonder.
 
Uh…the definition of Christianity is that it is a belief, no?
The definition of Christianity is that it is the Truth and the Way. Conspiracy theories are a belief. Communism and Capitalism are beliefs. Christianity is Truth, or, a belief in Truth (within the essentialist framework that there actually is Truth, absolute, to be found). There are certain principles of truth laid down, as I laid out above, by the revealed Word of God and the Incarnate Word of God.

Truth is not merely a fatuous concept, but both a “concrete abstraction” (i.e. a Form) and an actual presence (i.e. God): thus, Truth (as all other abstractions or Forms, such as Justice, or Mercy) must have “canons”, or delineated descriptions, in order for it to even exist (or to be instantiated): this is the “correspondence theory of truth”, disregarding the “divine command theory of truth”.

In the strict sense, it is a belief that Christianity corresponds with actual truth, but not as a belief in Communism or Capitalism, which can be no more or less true, but only more or less ethical, which requires recourse to that higher Form of the Good, Truth, or God and his revelation, Christianity (what do you know, I’m starting to launch in to the presuppositional apologetic!): but if we reject all knowledge as untrue, or accept all knowledge as equally true (the same things), or believe that all truth-claims have an implicit dignity and value, there is no longer any truth to be had - there is no correspondence between Truth and reality, or between Truth and anything else: the concepts of Truth and truth both become not only irrelevant, but meaningless and chaotic - “without form, and void”.

So, no, Christianity is not a belief, as you lay it out, with the implication that other beliefs are valid. It is a belief in the sense that one can choose to believe either truth or falsehood.

The crux of the situation being, that Christianity, by any definition, can not be reconciled with contradictory beliefs, that is, beliefs in untruth. Christianity is not postmodern: heresy did not precede orthodoxy.
 
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