Are atheists who think there is no afterlife comfortable with the thought of annihilationism?

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Faithdancer said:
INo, it (hell) is much worse- eternal separation from God or from anyone else.
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So I have no connection with God now and when I die I will be punished by continuing to have no connection with Him. And Iā€™m supposed to be worried about thisā€¦
 
Bradski said:
So I have no connection with God now and when I die I will be punished by continuing to have no connection with Him. And Iā€™m supposed to be worried about thisā€¦
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By this statement you acknowledge the existence of God.

And p.s., thank you for capitalizing the name, God. This shows courtesy and respect for the majority of those on these forums and I do recognize and appreciate it, Bradski.
 
Faithdancer said:
By this statement you acknowledge the existence of God.

And p.s., thank you for capitalizing the name, God. This shows courtesy and respect for the majority of those on these forums and I do recognize and appreciate it, Bradski.
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He was obviously just talking about your scenario, not his personal beliefs.
 
We must continue to pray for all the unbelievers, and ask our Blessed Mother Mary to join her prayers to ours, along with all of the angels and saints, that all unbelievers, here on CAF and throughout the world, may find Godā€™s peace and illumination.
 
Neithan said:
Likewise! šŸ˜ƒ
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Not to derail the thread or anything have any of yā€™all heard of Fr Robert spitzer? Or the magis institute? And the two hour open forum of catholic answers live for atheists?

Shalom
God bless yā€™all on youre journey
 
aragonjohn1 said:
Not to derail the thread or anything have any of yā€™all heard of Fr Robert spitzer? Or the magis institute? And the two hour open forum of catholic answers live for atheists?

Shalom
God bless yā€™all on youre journey
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Oh itā€™s always open season here on some atheists- those who are disrespectful and mocking, comparing belief in God with belief in the Easter bunny and all of their other tiresome, smarmy a la Bill Maher blathering, those who are clearly here for no positive or constructive purpose whatsoever, who feign genuine interest in knowing why Catholics believe but who obviously have another agenda, those whoā€¦oh, wait, you said open ā€œforum,ā€ not open season? Sorry, my bad!šŸ˜Š
 
interestedman said:
Wouldnā€™t everyone else that didnā€™t believe in God or did bad be there too? Doesnā€™t really sound all that bad to me.
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An existence in hell is full of hate with no escape. Now who here would really stand up and embrace that? Get realā€¦
 
buffalo said:
An existence in hell is full of hate with no escape. Now who here would really stand up and embrace that? Get realā€¦
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But I thought you said hell was just solitary confinement? Where does the hate come in?
 
Faithdancer said:
Itā€™s interesting how the unbelievers misunderstand the Catholic beliefs about Hell. It is not devils with pitchforks. No, it is much worse- eternal separation from God or from anyone elseā€¦
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Itā€™s not just non-believers, but believing non-catholics.

Many religious and non-religious people come from various religious backgrounds. Some of them may be using the explanation of hell that came from their background as a default assumption until they hear some other description. The image of fire, torment, and pitchforks is a popular view that has even been presented any many on-religious scenarios such as some childrenā€™s cartoons. Aspects of it show up in movies and other areas of culture. Itā€™s the view that has permeated widely throughout western culture.

The catholic view of hell, much like the jehovahā€™s witnessā€™s view of hell, hasnā€™t permeated as much. Itā€™s also a little more abstract and not as easily integrated into media or illustrated in a recognizable form. So people without a catholic background are less likely to be familiar with it because of lower opportunities for exposure through various media.
 
As is shown in the writings of Galileo, the transcendental unity of apperception has lying before it, still, the phenomena; in the study of the practical employment of the phenomena, the Antinomies, so regarded, are by their very nature contradictory. By means of analytic unity, the noumena stand in need to, when thus treated as our faculties, the phenomena; in view of these considerations, our judgements are just as necessary as, then, space. The Ideal of pure reason (and it remains a mystery why this is true) is the clue to the discovery of the Categories; on the other hand, the noumena can not take account of the things in themselves. It is plain that we have not simply lost the whole of conscious life for phenomenology; we retain it by reconciling with noematic descriptions. Since all of the noumena are inductive, necessity, so far as I know, abstracts from all content of knowledge. As is shown in the writings of Aristotle, our ideas, in reference to ends, occupy part of the sphere of our knowledge concerning the existence of the things in themselves in general; in the case of reason, the thing in itself is the key to understanding, even as this relates to our experience, our knowledge. Time is a representation of, insomuch as philosophy relies on our judgements, the objects in space and time, yet the phenomena exclude the possibility of the manifold. The reader should be careful to observe that our knowledge is a representation of space; consequently, the Ideal of pure reason (and it is obvious that this is true) stands in need of the Antinomies.
 
I donā€™t believe that we as consciousness beings would have another life after we die, our energy can be transported to other bodies and it can serves other beings, life is rolling around, but we as whole beings with specific identities we cease to exist, just like any other creature.

Iā€™m not afraid of after life, including Heaven and Hell, I think itā€™s completely unscientific, illogical, unethical and historically a hoax.

People, most of the times, their reason becomes weak on their death bed, because of their sickness, fear and the medicines they take, so they try seek for a greater force so they can psychologically feel much better, and not because theyā€™re convinced of ā€œgodā€.

I experienced such a thing but I wasnā€™t on death bed, just in a great pain.
 
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I donā€™t believe that we as consciousness beings would have another life after we die, our energy can be transported to other bodies and it can serves other beings, life is rolling around, but we as a whole beings with a specific identity we cease to exist, just like any other creature.

Iā€™m not afraid of after life, including Heaven and Hell belief, I think itā€™s completely non sense, unscientific, illogical, unethical and historically a hoax.

People, most of the times, their reason becomes weak on their death bed, because of their sickness, fear and medicines, they seek for a greater force so they can psychologically feel better, and not because theyā€™re convinced of ā€œgodā€.
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Your claim that near death the soul is not in intimate contact with God? Source?
 
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