No, priests may not advice the use of artificial means of pregnancy prevention. It cannot follow moral theological logic.Sorry for saying too much personal stuff. I got pulled into it by some others. My intentions were to express my awareness of my faults, and that I am not trying to justify myself. I am not justified through myself, but the grace of Jesus.
I wanted to know if anyone was aware of any Teachings of the Church which allow priests to dispense someone from refraining from contraception. Not that I even wanted to be.
I will probably not be back here at CAF, because there always seems to be agitators, such as BH. It makes it very unpleasant to discuss things as brothers and sisters in the faith. And I have thick skin. But the sensitivity of the issue makes it hurtful.
I agree the main problem is me. I never implied that this was the main issue, or whole issue.As someone who was counseled to use birth control I think the problem is a serious one.
But I also think it isn’t even close to the OPs real problem.
If I am to give my friend the benefit of the doubt, I understand he was trying to advise me to choose the lesser evil, and at least be directing my desires to my wife. That much I agree with.No, priests may not advice the use of artificial means of pregnancy prevention. It cannot follow moral theological logic.
I prefer to think any attempt is at least guided by thier want to be pastoral. Though it’s misplaced.
A bishop should be notified when this happens.
Catholic theology is clear, one may not engage in evil to achieve a perceived good. This why “lesser of two evils” can never be a holy moral choice. BUT before you go around starting stuff, please, the priority for you to fix is your own weaknesses and chastity. Fight the battles that matter to your soul, then if you have time and energy left proceed to try to help your friend…If I am to give my friend the benefit of the doubt, I understand he was trying to advise me to choose the lesser evil, and at least be directing my desires to my wife. That much I agree with.
However, it is not his place to tell me he has authority to advise me to go ahead and use condoms. I needed him to convey what the Teachings of the Church are. He chose the wide and easier path.
I will keep fighting the good fight, praying for God’s guidance and protection, confessing BEFORE I act on wrong behavior, and avoid what leads to sin.
I will reach out to the diocese, in hopes to receive an affirmation or an admonishment. I am not too proud to accept spiritual direction. It’s just hard to find someone in the faith to help!
I agree. And I certainly don’t want to cause trouble. But my wife told me that this priest told her he didn’t blame her for not wanting to practice NFP. So there is damage done.Catholic theology is clear, one may not engage in evil to achieve a perceived good. This why “lesser of two evils” can never be a holy moral choice. BUT before you go around starting stuff, please, the priority for you to fix is your own weaknesses and chastity. Fight the battles that matter to your soul, then if you have time and energy left proceed to try to help your friend…
Are you referring to previous infidelity and now concern about STDs?The truth is, we have used contraception more than not! I HAVE compromised. Then I asked to stop. All my mistakes were thrown at my face. Well, ok. That means we shouldn’t be having sex at all, until we deal with things.
I believe that there are more reasons than my faults, that protection is wanted. But my mistakes gave opportunity for the devil. That’s what I get for doing the work of the devil.
No. I have never touched another woman. My infidelity was without contactAre you referring to previous infidelity and now concern about STDs?
I was referring to my relations with my wife. We began our marriage using the PIL. I never liked it. It was not my choice. And the last time we had relations was because I DID buy a box of condoms!Are you referring to previous infidelity and now concern about STDs?
I was referring to my relations with my wife. We began our marriage using the PIL. I never liked it. It was not my choice. And the last time we had relations was because I DID buy a box of condoms!
With RCWitness not you.I thought you were done.
No, starting now!With RCWitness not you.
Lets see how strong the OCD may be in you to get in the petty last word.
Timing you from … NOW!
No this is not true. Contraceptive use remains intrisincally evil as explained in the catechism and Humanae Vitae.Both Popes Francis and B XVI allow the use of condoms, as I have written previously in this thread.
With BXVI you are correct. However, within the scope of Zika, pope Francis said condoms may he dicerned. He later clarified that is exactly what he meant.No this is not true. Contraceptive use remains intrisincally evil as explained in the catechism and Humanae Vitae.
Pope Francis and Pope Benedict have both said said something along the lines of condom use potentially indicating concern for one’s partner when there was risk of HIV transmission. That is becomes a step on the path to responsibility for these people who are otherwise putting their sexual desires ahead of concern for their partners’ lives. Neither pope have said that condom use is good or acceptable. Neither have broken with tradition. The statements were pulled front context, misinterpreted by mainstream media, and widely reported; hence we see a lot of confusion.
Thank you sir. That is much more charitable and constructive.