This is better, but it has the disadvantage of not using ‘Church’ at the universal level, for the one Body of Christ that comprises various local churches. One could argue that that universal sense of Church is ontologically prior to local manifestations of church. For that reason, I prefer the term ‘Catholic Church’ when speaking of the communion of the 23 particular churches.
That’s fine. My criticism wasn’t directed at referring to the Roman Communion as “the Catholic Church”, “the one true church”, “the church of Christ” etc., but only at referring to it as “the Roman Catholic Church”.
Sadly yes, in that the Bragan Rite, Ambrosian Rite, etc have been restricted to the point that only of tiny fraction of the Latin Church use them.
Eastern Catholics =Roman Catholics .
I think we’ve been over this ground before. Eastern Catholics are Roman Catholics if “Roman Catholics” is defined to mean “members of the Roman Communion” (which is surely how Pius XI meant it).
Ah 1929 , the year also of “cum data fuerit” which set a new schism in the Greek Catholic Church and the birth of what became the American Carpatho Russian Orthodox Diocese.
Thank you.
I figured he’d read something like Light of the East, by Blessed John Paul II. Even Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI is an honest scholar; and willing to discuss things, with the Orthodox; and even looked at Orthodoxy, as reference. Also, even now with Pope Francis calling himself distinctly, the bishop of Rome.
Wouldn’t they also be Roman Catholic due to being under the Roman Latin Church?Possibly for the same reason that posters talk about Roman-Rite Catholics way more than, say, Ambrosian-Rite Catholics. Namely, because Rome is still the central focus.
They’d be in the Roman Union, under the Latin Church; and they’d fall under their respective rites.
So they are not Roman Catholics?
I guess its correct to identify as Latin Rite, do any parishes in the USA identify as a Latin Catholic Church?Ah okay! So Eastern Catholics are Roman after all
Hmmm … “Latin Rite”? Unless my memory is playing tricks on me, haven’t you been corrected a number of times on that score?
No that was somebody elses forum who asked on the term Latin Rite which was located in the liturgy, spirtuality forum, which asked how the term was used in canon law. I think it was by " YoungTradCath" if I am correct?
OIC.
I will try to find the link!
Personally, I wouldn’t object to that, b/c it is true according to one definition of “Roman Catholic”.Ah okay! So Eastern Catholics are Roman after all
But you might get a little heat from some people, who prefer the other definition (i.e. “Roman Catholic” = “Roman-Rite Catholic”). But hey, you can’t please everyone all the time, right? 