You know I got to hand it to you. You are the most constant poster on these boards. The steady stream of insults and lies is almost non stop. Your post are almost pure non constructive and hate filled.
No BDAWG, the list you provided are not doctrines to speak of from the Catholic church. Secondly If you have these supposed doctrines changing from the original church then you have no apostacy occurring. Can you provide the date and time, and which doctrine was changed from A to B?
This is why the Church is needed, to make us speak the same words, be of the same mind and to avoid schisms. (see my signature)
I’ve expressed the importance of tearing down the Church to the Jews who were accused of killing the messiah as well as the Romans who studied Christianity to combat it, to the extent of attempting to rebuild the temple to prove Jesus wrong about destroying the temple that would not be rebuilt. Historians, well to this day they busy themselves trying to disprove Christianity. This is a major event mormons talk about. It would have vindicated the Jews, help the Romans squash Christianity or made some historian famous throughout the ages.
There is alot of evidence, but it takes a bit of reading and researching. There was one Church until the 1500s when Luther started the reformation. That was the birth of protestantism, as recorded by protestants (Lutherans), Catholics who defended against it and even, yea you guess it, historians.
Thank you for your support. You have not been able to support any of the various allegations that you have made. Please point out any lies that I have told. You have simply expressed “personal opinion” and speculation. It is all very well to dance this kind of minuet with the Catholic posters on these forums. they are generally too smart to fall for mormon folderol. Those who are in real danger from the false religion of mormonism are the unsuspecting rubes out there who are subject to the ministrations of your “missionaries”. Ordinarily I could not care less about mormons or the entire mormon “church.” It is the patent dishonesty and evasiveness that get my Irish up. Tell the truth and you have nothing to fear from me, lie and I’m on your case.
You honestly think that the romans and jews cared about the details killing the entire church I can see, but who many people would really care if a small cult that is a bit annoying made some minor tweeks to their dogma every 20-50 years?This is why the Church is needed, to make us speak the same words, be of the same mind and to avoid schisms. (see my signature)
I’ve expressed the importance of tearing down the Church to the Jews who were accused of killing the messiah as well as the Romans who studied Christianity to combat it, to the extent of attempting to rebuild the temple to prove Jesus wrong about destroying the temple that would not be rebuilt. Historians, well to this day they busy themselves trying to disprove Christianity. This is a major event mormons talk about. It would have vindicated the Jews, help the Romans squash Christianity or made some historian famous throughout the ages.
There is alot of evidence, but it takes a bit of reading and researching. There was one Church until the 1500s when Luther started the reformation. That was the birth of protestantism, as recorded by protestants (Lutherans), Catholics who defended against it and even, yea you guess it, historians.
May the peace of the Lord be with you,
Prodigal Son1
Sort of like JS writing scriptures that back up his authority as prophet.
You know the early Christians were martyred for their beliefs. The persecution of Christians went on for several centuries. It was that important to it’s persecutors. Those events are documented by the way.
Kinda like throwing rocks when you live in a glass house?
i got your back hosemonkey teancum you come to a catholic website and wonder why. All you are here to do is spread your hate and prove you are right!
Thanks, Bro. I am guilty of telling mormons the truth, namely that their “Emperor” has no clothes. Everryone is entitled to go to hell in their own way, it is called “free will.” “You can lead the horse to water, but it takes two Marines to make him drink.” If you PM me I’ll tell you how it’s done. (Adult humor) I am perhaps a little rough in my comments, but that’s the way I am(not sorry) Thanks again for your support.
one then could make the same claim against the LDS since in the early days patriarchs charged for giving blessings.
a valid point. however we also have the writings of the early christians to at least tell us what THEY thought it meant when they learned it firsthand from the apostles.
quite a few actually. we also see pretty extensive catholic records of the fight against heresy. if we accept the “history of the victors” argument that you propose we should see very obviously mormon “heretics” being “defeated” or at least “corrected”. we do not.
yes but these protestants didn’t show up for 1500 years and even then were primarily concerned with abuses. it was to justify their own wicked desires that they later decided that catholic doctrines were wrong and needed to be changed. one might draw some interesting parallels with early mormonism where once it was accepted to receive revelation about new doctrines even to the point of reversing earlier doctrines all manner of things became okay because the lord “commanded” it.
You didn’t answer my question.
But this is exactly what many LDS apologists have tried to do, yet all they can come up with are bits and pieces of “Mormon doctrine” amongst almost every group labeled heretical while tossing out the rest of the heretical groups’ teachings.
Well maybe if it was straight up 3 gods, but then you have this:
And then you pile on those who attain exaltation along with their wives(possibly polygamous) who get their godhood through their husbands. And what you have resembles a Greek Pantheon with a Vulcan mind meld twist. It definitely loses simplicity as you add in all the extras.
I don’t think anyone would argue with that.
True, however the Mormons (and many Protestants as well) claim that the Catholic church actually ADDED to the deposit of faith that which didn’t belong. I think any bystander would notice huge chunks added in over night, like “Oh my, they started venerating some woman they claim is a virgin”
Wait a minute. I may be misunderstanding you (so please clarify) but are you making an argument to authority (namely Protestantism)?
You say God did not precede creation, that Christ was, essentially, manufactured. That is not Christianity. That is a pseudo-Christian faith. You cannot live by the NT, because you ignore Matthew 16 regarding the gates of hell not prevailing against Christ’s church. Either you believe what Christ said, or you do not. I never got this leap of faith!
