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Yah Judaism was a Henotheism that is worshipping a single God yet acknowledging the existence of other gods for other cultures. Some scholars point to the Babylonoian exile as the turning point where many Jews learned strict monotheistic principles from the Zoroastrians they assimilated with in the diaspora.(Though Zoroastrianism is in itself debated whether it is strictly monotheism or a dualistic God in nature.)
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This question is of paramount importance! After all, no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:3
Who wants to go through life not being 100% certain that Jesus is our Savior?
Understanding the guidance of the Holy Spirit is a learned behavior. At different times the Holy Spirit can manifest Himself to us in different ways.
These are some of the ways the Holy Spirit manifests Himself…
comforts us, teaches us, and reminds us (John 14:26, D&C 42:17, D&C 39:6)
guides us to truth and shows us things to come (John 16:13)
testifies of Christ (John 15:26, 1 Corinthians 12:3, 3 Nephi 28:11, D&C 20:27, D&C 42:17)
speaks truth to our heart and our mind (D&C 8:2)
enlightens the mind and fill the soul with joy (D&C 11:13)
unfolds to us the mysteries of God (1 Nephi 10:19)
carries the word of God into the hearts of those we teach (2 Nephi 33:1)
sanctifies us (3 Nephi 27:20)
causes your heart to “burn” (Luke 24:32)
communicates to us as a “still small voice” (1 Kings 19:12)
The link below is of a video of a few LDS describing how the Holy Spirit feels to them.
lds.org/media-library/video/2012-01-001-feeling-the-holy-ghost?lang=eng
I hope this helps…
The LDS Church does not teach the doctrine of the Trinity. We do believe in the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit and that Each has a role has a divine role to fulfill.
(Now I’ve never sure when an Orthodox Christian asks if LDS “believe in the Trinity” if they mean every last theological aspect of the doctrine of the Trinity, or just that those three Heavenly Beings exist in whatever form LDS believe Them to be.)
You too!
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johnnyc176
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It is interesting how protestants act much like secularism when it comes to the Catholic Church. No matter how charitable one is in proclaiming the Truth of Jesus Christ and His Church, they will be called hater, bigot, ‘hostile’ and any other name that seeks to bury the Truth in relativism.
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Great reply ans much appreciated.This question is of paramount importance! After all, no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:3
Who wants to go through life not being 100% certain that Jesus is our Savior?
Understanding the guidance of the Holy Spirit is a learned behavior. At different times the Holy Spirit can manifest Himself to us in different ways.
These are some of the ways the Holy Spirit manifests Himself…
comforts us, teaches us, and reminds us (John 14:26, D&C 42:17, D&C 39:6)
guides us to truth and shows us things to come (John 16:13)
testifies of Christ (John 15:26, 1 Corinthians 12:3, 3 Nephi 28:11, D&C 20:27, D&C 42:17)
speaks truth to our heart and our mind (D&C 8:2)
enlightens the mind and fill the soul with joy (D&C 11:13)
unfolds to us the mysteries of God (1 Nephi 10:19)
carries the word of God into the hearts of those we teach (2 Nephi 33:1)
sanctifies us (3 Nephi 27:20)
causes your heart to “burn” (Luke 24:32)
communicates to us as a “still small voice” (1 Kings 19:12)
The link below is of a video of a few LDS describing how the Holy Spirit feels to them.
lds.org/media-library/video/2012-01-001-feeling-the-holy-ghost?lang=eng
I hope this helps…
The LDS Church does not teach the doctrine of the Trinity. We do believe in the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit and that Each has a role has a divine role to fulfill.
(Now I’ve never sure when an Orthodox Christian asks if LDS “believe in the Trinity” if they mean every last theological aspect of the doctrine of the Trinity, or just that those three Heavenly Beings exist in whatever form LDS believe Them to be.)
You too!
The highlighted text of your reply is a SHOCK
to me.I understood that LDS did not hold Jesus to be “Divine”, am I wrong?
God Bless you
Patrick
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CourtingTex
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As a Mormon, I will continue to pray for continued respect regardless of views of religious, non religious, or otherwise.
My values relative to religious freedom or the lack of that for others continues. I stand with folks to have differing views, doctrine, etc and will continue to support their choice or right to have personal, sacred views.
Lastly, if someone comes to God through my cause or as a Jehovah’s Witness is a personal choice that should be accepted and respected. History has shown again and again humanity relationship/love/loyalty with God or higher power if you will or not with the myriad of wars and other isms, dictators, etc that have and continue to have their place in our lives today.
I will continue to pray and work for humanity’s potential and greatness.
My values relative to religious freedom or the lack of that for others continues. I stand with folks to have differing views, doctrine, etc and will continue to support their choice or right to have personal, sacred views.
Lastly, if someone comes to God through my cause or as a Jehovah’s Witness is a personal choice that should be accepted and respected. History has shown again and again humanity relationship/love/loyalty with God or higher power if you will or not with the myriad of wars and other isms, dictators, etc that have and continue to have their place in our lives today.
I will continue to pray and work for humanity’s potential and greatness.
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JMM1957
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But they also believe that Jesus was a created spirit being by the Father and His Heavenly Mother, then sent to earth in a human body. Mormon’s don’t pray to Jesus, only the Father. But Romans 10:12-13 says otherwise; “For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all, enriching all who call upon him. For everyone who calls on the the name of the Lord will be saved.”
Calling upon Jesus is praying to Him. Asking Jesus to come into your heart to be your Lord and Savior is a prayer, and He hears you.
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jane_doe
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Incorrect.
Which is exactly what Christ asks us to do.
A) Proselytizing is against forum rules.
B) I assure you that I already let all of God into my heart and life
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JMM1957
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Lol, where do you come up with that?
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jane_doe
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It’s posted right on the forum rules:Lol, where do you come up with that?
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JMM1957
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I’m asking you what I said that is prohibited?
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JMM1957
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Originally Posted by JMM1957
But they also believe that Jesus was a created spirit being
jane-doe said,
Incorrect.
From LDS site: "The Son and the Holy Spirit were “in the beginning, with God,”** but the Father alone existed before the beginning of the universe** as it is known. He is ultimately the source of all things and the Father of all things, for in the beginning he begot the Son, and through the instrumentality of his agent, the Son, the Father accomplished the creation of all things.
The Son was not always existing according to LDS.
But they also believe that Jesus was a created spirit being
jane-doe said,
Incorrect.
From LDS site: "The Son and the Holy Spirit were “in the beginning, with God,”** but the Father alone existed before the beginning of the universe** as it is known. He is ultimately the source of all things and the Father of all things, for in the beginning he begot the Son, and through the instrumentality of his agent, the Son, the Father accomplished the creation of all things.
The Son was not always existing according to LDS.
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JMM1957
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Originally Posted by JMM1957 View Post
Calling upon Jesus is praying to Him. Asking Jesus to come into your heart to be your Lord and Savior is a prayer, and He hears you.
I was using that as an “example” of how there can be prayer to Jesus. Not telling you specifically to do that.
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LivingWaters7
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Jane, you have a habit of snipping out people’s words (as you did with mine as shown here. Here is the full sentence that JMM stated:
I think it is clear what he is referring to. LDS believe that we are all literal spirit children of Heavenly Father and His spouse, Heavenly Mother. This was a creative process. Mormons also believe that Jesus is the literal firstborn spirit child of the Father and Heavenly Mother, known as Jehovah. I think it is obvious that this is what JMM was referring to.
As we read on LDS.org:
"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that all human beings, male and female, are beloved spirit children of heavenly parents, a Heavenly Father and a Heavenly Mother. "
lds.org/topics/mother-in-heaven?lang=eng
“Jesus Christ is the Firstborn among all the spirit children of Heavenly Father.”
lds.org/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-and-church-history-study-guide-for-home-study-seminary-students-2014/section-04/unit-20-day-2-doctrine-and-covenants-93?lang=eng
Jesus Christ is literally the son of God the Eternal Father.
- Jesus Christ is the firstborn spirit son of God (see D&C 93:21; Colossians 1:13–15; Hebrews 1:5–6).
lds.org/manual/doctrines-of-the-gospel-student-manual/chapter-4-jesus-christ-the-son-of-god?lang=eng
lds.org/manual/doctrines-of-the-gospel-student-manual/chapter-4-jesus-christ-the-son-of-god?lang=eng
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jane_doe
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Sigh You are misunderstanding things. Rather than unravel this ball, I’m just going to go straight to scripture:
“And as I spake concerning the convincing of the Jews, that Jesus is the very Christ, it must needs be that the Gentiles be convinced also that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God” lds.org/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/26.12?lang=eng#11
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jane_doe
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Your statement has an abidance of "you"s in it, hence the conclusion ti was referring to me:Originally Posted by JMM1957 View Post
I was using that as an “example” of how there can be prayer to Jesus. Not telling you specifically to do that.
Asking Jesus to come into your heart to be your Lord and Savior is a prayer, and He hears you.
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JMM1957
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jane, you can’t expect me to accept this as scripture to prove your point. I know you accept this book, but I don’t. Use the Bible if you want to prove something to me.
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