Are Muslims okay with Muhammed actions?

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Islam keeps Muslims towing the line through fear and indoctrination. That summary of Verisimilitude says so much. How can anyone get through to people who think that way? How can you get them to examine what their faith teaches with an open mind?

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Do you still believe I am Muslim:p?
 
I don’t know why there was no logical answer for my last post in this thread?

You need to remember that we still love Jesus PBUH because prophet Mohammad PBUH taught us so.

We work according to our prophet and you work according to your way.
  1. And say to those who do not believe: "Act according to your ability and way, We are acting (in our way).
  2. And you wait ! We (too) are waiting."
  3. And to Allâh belongs the Ghaib (unseen) of the heavens and the earth, and to Him return all affairs (for decision). So worship Him (O Muhammad PBUH) and put your trust in Him. And your Lord is not unaware of what you (people) do."
 
I don’t know why there was no logical answer for my last post in this thread?

You need to remember that we still love Jesus PBUH because prophet Mohammad PBUH taught us so.

We work according to our prophet and you work according to your way.
  1. And say to those who do not believe: "Act according to your ability and way, We are acting (in our way).
  2. And you wait ! We (too) are waiting."
  3. And to Allâh belongs the Ghaib (unseen) of the heavens and the earth, and to Him return all affairs (for decision). So worship Him (O Muhammad PBUH) and put your trust in Him. And your Lord is not unaware of what you (people) do."
You mean your last question for post #172… :whistle:

If that is what you are asking about… because it was answered.

And also in the future, it would be beneficial if you point your post which is being unanswered…

Meanwhile… have you read the posts/replies from #172 and forward
…???. 🍿 I doubt that!!!
 
They have spoken:
Verisimilitude, why did you only take 1 part of my comment and ignore the rest?
I said God commanded it, but I also said she is a liar, and not by my judgment alone, but the prophet’s great grandson Imam Ja’far al-sadiq (as) accused Aisha as being one of 3 most liars against the prophet. The other two are Abu Hurairah and Anas bin Malik. For us, Imam Ja’far is an infallible, he was the guardian of the religion on earth while alive, therefore his words must be true. Also, by Aisha’s own admission we know she lied to the prophet to his face, how can we be sure she is honest with us.
 
Verisimilitude, why did you only take 1 part of my comment and ignore the rest?
I said God commanded it, but I also said she is a liar, and not by my judgment alone, but the prophet’s great grandson Imam Ja’far al-sadiq (as) accused Aisha as being one of 3 most liars against the prophet. The other two are Abu Hurairah and Anas bin Malik. For us, Imam Ja’far is an infallible, he was the guardian of the religion on earth while alive, therefore his words must be true. Also, by Aisha’s own admission we know she lied to the prophet to his face, how can we be sure she is honest with us.
Famdigy, do Sunni believe Aishia was a liar as well?
 
Verisimilitude, why did you only take 1 part of my comment and ignore the rest?
I said God commanded it, but I also said she is a liar,
Blame the victim and bless the criminal? Aisha was a child when mated with Mohammed and not much more than a child when he died of old age leaving her to the political manipulations of her father and othe rpowerfull men, and your only excuse is for Mohammed by divine order. I do not recognize your prophet as legitimate so I do not recognize the claims of his acting on behalf of God’s will.

Only by associating Mohammed so closely with God can Moslems attempt to qualify his many evil actions. The fruits of that illigitimate association have been shown in this thread by each and every Moslem responding here, being not just okay with his actions but a propogation of them in the Moslem world as being good. Child marriages, perverted adoption rules, permitted lies, religious bigotry, and a divine call to bring all the world under the sway of this ideology by oppression, historical manipulation, and war.

Put the blame where the blame belongs which is on Mohammed.
 
Blame the victim and bless the criminal? Aisha was a child when mated with Mohammed and not much more than a child when he died of old age leaving her to the political manipulations of her father and othe rpowerfull men, and your only excuse is for Mohammed by divine order. I do not recognize your prophet as legitimate so I do not recognize the claims of his acting on behalf of God’s will.

Only by associating Mohammed so closely with God can Moslems attempt to qualify his many evil actions. The fruits of that illigitimate association have been shown in this thread by each and every Moslem responding here, being not just okay with his actions but a propogation of them in the Moslem world as being good. Child marriages, perverted adoption rules, permitted lies, religious bigotry, and a divine call to bring all the world under the sway of this ideology by oppression, historical manipulation, and war.

Put the blame where the blame belongs which is on Mohammed.
doesn’t anyone find it ironic that Muhammad told many to lie and deceive others quite often and then when it comes to Aisha (maybe) lying - the Muslims are in a tither about it?

It should tell them if they cannot trust Aisha and her (probable) lies that how can anyone trust a Muslim if their religion, or prophet, told them to deceive us whenever they feel the necessity? And keep in mind that Aisha, being married to an old man, lied in an area that women are usually stoned for. They cannot even give her a break about (possibly) lying about that. Muhammad had women stoned, many times, for doing what Aisha did. I don’t blame her for lying and for (probably) doing what she did - being with a man closer to her own age! Muhammad already made her knowledgable about sex and sexually active, I just don’t find it beyond reason to expect that she would look elsewhere considering what she had to be with everyday of her young life.

And she had to clean him up! He had lice and he would have her clean up his ejaculations! I mean, to me it is unimaginable what that poor girl had to put up with.

I find it ironic, or just more hypocracy coming from the Muslims themselves on this subject.
 
doesn’t anyone find it ironic that Muhammad told many to lie and deceive others quite often and then when it comes to Aisha (maybe) lying - the Muslims are in a tither about it?

It should tell them if they cannot trust Aisha and her (probable) lies that how can anyone trust a Muslim if their religion, or prophet, told them to deceive us whenever they feel the necessity? And keep in mind that Aisha, being married to an old man, lied in an area that women are usually stoned for. They cannot even give her a break about (possibly) lying about that. Muhammad had women stoned, many times, for doing what Aisha did. I don’t blame her for lying and for (probably) doing what she did - being with a man closer to her own age! Muhammad already made her knowledgable about sex and sexually active, I just don’t find it beyond reason to expect that she would look elsewhere considering what she had to be with everyday of her young life.

And she had to clean him up! He had lice and he would have her clean up his ejaculations! I mean, to me it is unimaginable what that poor girl had to put up with.
I find it ironic, or just more hypocracy coming from the Muslims themselves on this subject.
Oh, why did you have to go and say that, I feel sick.
 
Where did you get this information from?
Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 87, Number 130:
Allah’s Apostle used to visit Um Haram bint Milhan she was the wife of ‘Ubada bin As-Samit. One day the Prophet visited her and she provided him with food and started looking for lice in his head.

Abu Dawood Book 19, Number 3074:
She was picking lice from the head of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) while the wife of Uthman ibn Affan and the immigrant women were with him.

Narrated 'Aisha: I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the Prophet and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them.
Sahih Bukhari 1:4:233

Abdullah b. Shihab al-Khaulani reported: I stayed in the house of 'A’isha and had a wet dream (and perceived its effect on my garment), so (in the morning) I dipped both (the clothes) in water. This (act of mine) was watched by a maid-servant of A’isha and she informed her. She (Hadrat A’isha) sent me a message: What prompted you to act like this with your clothes? He (the narrator) said: I told that I saw in a dream what a sleeper sees. She said: Did you find (any mark of the fluid) on your clothes? I said: No. She said: Had you found anything you should have washed it. In case I found that (semen) on the garment of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) dried up, I scraped it off with my nails.

Sahih Muslim 2:572, See Also Sahih Muslim 2:566, Sahih Muslim 2:567, Sahih Muslim 2:568, Sahih Muslim 2:569, Sahih Muslim 2:570, Sahih Muslim 2:571

“Thighing” Aisha
Mohammed placed his penis between the thighs of Aisha and he messaged it to orgasm since he could not have sexual intercourse with her until she was nine.

“It is not illegal for an adult male to ‘thigh’ or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his male member between her thighs, and to kiss her.”
Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini’s, “Tahrir Al wasila,” p. 241, issue number 12
Fatwas
Praise be to Allah and peace be upon the one after whom there is no [further] prophet.
After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question presented to the grand Mufti Abu Abdullah Muhammad Al-Shemary, the question forwarded to the committee by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/8/1421 (Islamic calendar). The inquirer asked the following:
It has become wide spread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children (mufa’khathat literally translated means “placing between the thighs” which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child). What is the opinion of scholars knowing full well that the prophet, the peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, also practiced the “thighing” of Aisha - the mother of believers - may Allah be please with her.
After the committee studied the issue, they gave the following reply:
It has not been the practice of the Muslims throughout the centuries to resort to this unlawful practice that has come to our countries from pornographic movies that the kufar (infidels) and enemies of Islam send. As for the prophet, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, thighing his fiancée Aisha. She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age. That is why [the prophet] peace and prayer of Allah be upon him placed his [male] member between ber thighs and massaged it softly, as the apostle of Allah had control of his [male] member not like other believers
 
Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 87, Number 130:
Allah’s Apostle used to visit Um Haram bint Milhan she was the wife of ‘Ubada bin As-Samit. One day the Prophet visited her and she provided him with food and started looking for lice in his head.

Abu Dawood Book 19, Number 3074:
She was picking lice from the head of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) while the wife of Uthman ibn Affan and the immigrant women were with him.

Narrated 'Aisha: I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the Prophet and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them.
Sahih Bukhari 1:4:233

Abdullah b. Shihab al-Khaulani reported: I stayed in the house of 'A’isha and had a wet dream (and perceived its effect on my garment), so (in the morning) I dipped both (the clothes) in water. This (act of mine) was watched by a maid-servant of A’isha and she informed her. She (Hadrat A’isha) sent me a message: What prompted you to act like this with your clothes? He (the narrator) said: I told that I saw in a dream what a sleeper sees. She said: Did you find (any mark of the fluid) on your clothes? I said: No. She said: Had you found anything you should have washed it. In case I found that (semen) on the garment of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) dried up, I scraped it off with my nails.

Sahih Muslim 2:572, See Also Sahih Muslim 2:566, Sahih Muslim 2:567, Sahih Muslim 2:568, Sahih Muslim 2:569, Sahih Muslim 2:570, Sahih Muslim 2:571

**“Thighing” Aisha
Mohammed placed his penis between the thighs of Aisha and he messaged it to orgasm since he could not have sexual intercourse with her until she was nine.

“It is not illegal for an adult male to ‘thigh’ or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his male member between her thighs, and to kiss her.”
Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini’s, “Tahrir Al wasila,” p. 241, issue number 12**
This is getting worse and worse, so Aisha was basically even younger than 9 when he began molesting her.

P.S. How were you able to use the above words (sexual organs) without the system blocking it?
 
Sorry, but Muhammed really was quite a ‘nasty’ character in more ways than one (or two, or three…etc).
**Agabriel, Some one asked Aisha about the charachter (Akhlaaq) of Muhammad. She said “Have you not read the Quran?” The Questioner replied that he had read the Quran.

Aisha told him that the Character of the Prophet was the Quran. He lived a life according to the dictates of the Quran.**

So it is a lesson to all the catholics posting here. Please do not ascribe false reports to our prophet Muhammad.on the basis of Hadith etc. Come by the Quran please. Whatever is written in the Quran is okay. If you have anything objectionable then bring it from the Quran.

We know that our Hadith is better than your bibleNT. Hadith is more reliable than the man made bibleNt which is a mixed type of biography of Jesus And you people who are involving the prophet in bad deeds have actually nothing from God. No real book or word of God. No guidance at all. So all you do is to blame our prophet by use of unreliable reports.

Hadith is not from God. It was written by some men like the bible was written by the men.

Leave bible and Hadith alone and come by the actual revealed words of God (kalaam Allah) i.e. Quran. Do not waste time in idle things.
 
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josie_L:
This is getting worse and worse, so Aisha was basically even younger than 9 when he began molesting her.

P.S. How were you able to use the above words (sexual organs) without the system blocking it?

I have absolutely no idea how/why those words passed filtering. Maybe with Islamic subjects they are allowed since Muhammed was so involved with such things! 😃
 
I have absolutely no idea how/why those words passed filtering. Maybe with Islamic subjects they are allowed since Muhammed was so involved with such things! 😃
I asked because when I quoted scripture relaying Jesus’s ride into Jerusalem, the donkey which was refered to as an *** was nixed. Go figure. 🤷
 
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