Are my thoughts about Jesus wrong?

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Me Lady,
You do not need a psychologist nor a psychiatrist. What I do encourage you to do is to find a good, wise, elder priest, preferably a cloister monk priest to be your spiritual director. One who can really guide you through the true spirituality of this experience, lest there be an evil trap in this. Don’t be afraid nor ashamed. If it comes from God, He will manifest it through the priest, (that’s why my recommendation of an elder, one with true discernment, for not all priests have discernment). All that said, be faithful to the church and the church will be faithful to you.
Peace!
 
Me Lady,
You do not need a psychologist nor a psychiatrist. What I do encourage you to do is to find a good, wise, elder priest, preferably a cloister monk priest to be your spiritual director. One who can really guide you through the true spirituality of this experience, lest there be an evil trap in this. Don’t be afraid nor ashamed. If it comes from God, He will manifest it through the priest, (that’s why my recommendation of an elder, one with true discernment, for not all priests have discernment). All that said, be faithful to the church and the church will be faithful to you.
Peace!
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I think you should become good friends with the Holy Spirit, Devoted Child, and pray to Him for help making sure you don’t have disordered thoughts 🙂 you sound like you are doing well
Amen to that. The Holy Spirit, He never fails us if we turn to Him earnestly. Devoted Child, you are OK:thumbsup:👍👍. Don’t let the devil corrupt you. Just hold on to the Cross…the safest place to be.
 
Hi 😉

What you are describing is covered quite well by St John of the Cross in “The Ascent of Mt Carmel” and is very common for someone who is in the beginning stages of the path of contemplation. The love you are experiencing is a divine longing, but since your mind and heart have never experienced something so intense that is not romantic, it sometimes stimulates your physical senses. One must purge their senses and attachments through mortification and prayer in order to get through this. In other words – IT’S NORMAL! 🙂 Don’t worry yourself. Pay no attention to the physical – as if it were a buzzing fly around your head. And seek out a spiritual director who is wise in the ways of contemplation for help.

Best of luck!
 
There are many times when I don’t experience love for Jesus in this way but sometimes I do one time even after Communion. At the time it doesn’t seem wrong but afterwards I feel bad and like I disrespected Him. Maybe that’s because these feelings are so physical and not just spiritual. Normally I don’t get aroused though and when that happens I push it away, I know that is wrong and I don’t want it at all. I don’t know what to do about the thoughts. It’s like there’s this desire to just be able to be very close to Him but I don’t know if it’s in the wrong way. The more I imagine Him the more I feel it. It kind of feels like being in love with someone but I’ve never felt so intensely about anyone else in my life; and it causes me pain too because I can’t actually see or touch Him. I don’t even know what Jesus thinks of all this, I don’t want to offend Him. I think there’s another part to it where I just want real spiritual union with Jesus and really want Communion and to be one with Him, because I think about this too.

Please help?
I’m not sure who here can help you, to be honest, because in one way, especially in our culture, it seems kind of weird, like I think it seems to you.

BUT - what you are describing actually sounds like what a couple women mystic/saints wrote about their relationship/feelings for Jesus. You might read Sister Faustina’s Diaries and see if this makes any sense to you. You might also find a one day retreat at a local retreat house you can afford and take this to confession they usually have there, where there are trained spiritual directors and such.

I just think/feel right now, you shouldn’t beat yourself up about it or blithely dismiss or accept it. I also don’t think it makes sense to believe you have some psychological problem, unless you have other symptoms of departure from reality or difficulty with social intergration. .

Anyway, read Faustina and see if you start to find similarities and I think, make a priority of at least one time, finding someone skilled in spiritual discernment to speak to.

Remember Jesus loves you and understands much better than you do whatever you are experiencing.
 
I’d say, never allow it to be a selfish thing, your relationship with Jesus. Let it be about Jesus, and others.

Little one

Eternal Father please let me be a most humble and willing soul, so that Your Spirit may use me as an open channel of grace for others. Then You may flood to them, through me also, the graces and benefits denied so many wonderful people through their lack of faith, their self-importance, or their materialism.

As a little one held securely in Jesus’ arms—with my face trustingly against His gentle powerful heart—let me petition and obtain Your mercy for countless persons, out of His tender love and Yours. Allow the least smile of Jesus upon me to release torrents of grace, because His love is capable of all things, even though one so unworthy as me.
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                                                  I have no merit retained for my heavenly dowry. All I ever receive is offered to You for others’ souls—therefore, may I ask everything of You for them, through the love and passion of Jesus. I ask in humble hope.
Jesus says, “I tell you solemnly, anyone who does not welcome the kingdom of God** like a little child will never enter it.” [Luke18: 17]
 
Therese of Lisieux elucidates how to live as child before God. *“The only way to advance rapidly in the path of love is to always remain very little” “‘Remaining little’ means—to recognise ones nothingness, to await everything from the goodness of God, to avoid being much troubled at our faults; finally, not to be worried about amassing spiritual riches.” “There is but one means of compelling God not to judge us, and it is—to appear before Him empty-handed…spend your treasures as you gain them…All my earnings [merits] are spent immediately on the ransom of souls…Our Lord is justice Himself, and if He does not judge our good actions, neither will He judge our bad ones.”
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In response to a novice who was discouraged by her faults, Therese said*, “You make me think of a little child that is learning to stand but does not know how to walk. In his desire to reach to top of the stairs to find his mother, he lifts his little foot to climb the first step. It is all in vain, and at each renewed effort he falls.” “Well, be like that little child. Always keep lifting your foot to climb the ladder of holiness, and do not imagine that you can mount even the first step. All God asks of you is good will. From the top of the ladder, He looks lovingly upon you, and soon, touched by your fruitful efforts, He will Himself come down, and taking you in His arms, will carry you to His Kingdom never again to leave Him. But should you cease to raise your foot, you will be left for long on the earth.”
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To another, Therese said*, “You want to climb the mountain, whereas God wishes you to descend it. He is awaiting you in the valley of humility.” “It seems to me that humility is truth (honesty).” *

Therese’s* “little way” of spiritual childhood was summarised by her Carmelite sisters, Celine and Pauline. It is the way of unselfish love, recognising that the “indescribable condescension” of Jesus is open even to the poorest of souls. It is the way of* “joyful humility, passionate trust in Merciful Love, total abandonment to the divine will.” It is in “hidden sacrifices full of love and fidelity to every-day duties” with a “deep and experiential understanding of the Fatherhood of God.” It is in “zeal for souls.” It is lived with trust in our loving God. Such simplicity of heart is not of a childish nature, but childlike in its trust.** “It is love alone that counts,”* wrote Therese. “And love is total abandonment, the blind trust of a little child in its heavenly father, which cannot work without a profound humility and which becomes, without anyone suspecting it, a natural virtue as it is in all little ones.”*
 
Hi 😉

What you are describing is covered quite well by St John of the Cross in “The Ascent of Mt Carmel” and is very common for someone who is in the beginning stages of the path of contemplation. The love you are experiencing is a divine longing, but since your mind and heart have never experienced something so intense that is not romantic, it sometimes stimulates your physical senses. One must purge their senses and attachments through mortification and prayer in order to get through this. In other words – IT’S NORMAL! 🙂 Don’t worry yourself. Pay no attention to the physical – as if it were a buzzing fly around your head. And seek out a spiritual director who is wise in the ways of contemplation for help.

Best of luck!
You are so right…God bless.
 
I wanted to really thank everyone for the helpful posts 🙂

I have been trying to make my relationship with Jesus more about Him and not so selfish and I have not really had these thoughts lately. I just try to love Him and be close to Him and that helps.

Thank you all once more!
 
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