Are only Catholics destined for Heaven?

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Nelka said:
I don’t even know anymore what on must do to get to Heaven as I constantly hear about non Catholics going there and most Catholics not by committing mortal sins.
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I don’t think anyone really knows, but following the Ten Commandments would be a good start, I think.

Then revere all of G-d’s creation. That doesn’t mean approve of evil acts, but revere all as children of G-d and the earth as G-d’s creation as well.
 
I like where your heart’s at CL. However, I think there are many challenging concepts in the Bible (and the CCC) with regard to your position. Here are a few:
  1. The flood
  2. Pharaoh (see Romans 9)
  3. Job
  4. Pretty much everyone the Israelite’s ran into in Canaan
  5. “I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me.”
  6. The entire book of Romans
  7. The message of the Gospel (see gospel of John for example)
  8. The cross
Our God is merciful and loving. However, we hold his great mercy and love in tension with his perfect righteousness and judgement.
 
Just letting you guys know
WorshipJesus is probably one the worst troll accounts I’ve ever seen lol
 
In the Council of Jerusalem Peter agreed with Paul and Jesus occasionly helped Gentiles.
 
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In the Council of Jerusalem Peter agreed with Paul and Jesus occasionly helped Gentiles.
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Peter agreed to speak with Jews and Paul agreed to speak with gentiles. The basic disagreement between the two remained.

Jesus helped those who came to him, but it was Jews he sought out and Jews he wanted to preach to. And I’m not saying only Jews can be saved. Jews don’t believe that. Jews believe anyone can get to heaven.
 
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You need to ask your priest if people like Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, Corrie ten Boom, and Raoul Wallenberg are barred from heaven simply because they knew about Catholicism and didn’t embrace it.

Of course one can know about Catholicism and not embrace it yet still go to heaven.
 
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TULIPed said:
I like where your heart’s at CL. However, I think there are many challenging concepts in the Bible (and the CCC) with regard to your position.
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Thank you, but I don’t find them challenging at all. I have an MA in theology, which included Catholic theology, though I am Jewish myself.
 
Nelka said:
So what is the point of embracing it?
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For some people the RCC fulfills their needs. Its tenets lead one closer to G-d and a personal relationship with him. What’s the point of any religion if it doesn’t lead us closer to G-d and make our lives more G-d-centered?

Since this is the non-Catholic sub-forum, I will say, no religion is “one size firs all.” There are different branches of Catholicism, Lutheranism, Judaism, etc.
 
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I think it’s possible he’s saying that even if someone dies and goes to heaven a protestant, they end up Catholic.

I don’t find “RCIA” in Purgatory all that unlikely. The church has the fullness of the truth that has been revealed. Heaven has all truth.
 
Gives me that idea
His profile picture combined with the name (which is probably sarcastic)
And the fact that he’s calling out Catholic Church
Maybe he isn’t but it’s looking likely
 
only catholics going to Heaven you say? That is a relief to hear. I thought my sinful ways had done me in.
You are certain about this are you?
 
chessnerd321 said:
I think it’s possible he’s saying that even if someone dies and goes to heaven a protestant, they end up Catholic.
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I think in heaven we’ll all just be “children of G-d.” We won’t need the guidance and discipline of a faith system.
 
Fauken said:
To be Catholic is to be Christian, but how can we say we follow Christ when we shun His Church?
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I think you might have missed the point if you felt the obvious needed stating 😀.

Not being Catholic, or even Christian, is not shunning His Church???

Thats like saying that not doing what your father says is dishonouring him.

The world is not full of “non Catholics”. It is full of spiritual people seeking God in various different ways some of which may be better than others but most of which are likely best for this person at this time given their origins and the imperfect knowledge and cultures due to the Fall.
 
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If I was trying to annoy true Catholics I would probably claim to be one too
 
All men are called by God to the same common destiny and given the means to fulfill it. While outside the Church there is no salvation, God offers all the means of receiving that salvation at some point in their lives. No one is excluded.
 
ConstantLearner said:
Of course one can know about Catholicism and not embrace it yet still go to heaven.
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that’s not what the Catholic Church means by ‘know’. What the Catholic Church teaches is those who through no fault of their own do not know that the Catholic Church is the one true church founded by Jesus Christ can still be saved.

But if you KNOW in your mind and heart that the Catholic Church is the one true church and you still choose to walk away, then you are at risk of losing salvation.

So ‘knowing of’ the Catholic Church is not the same as ‘knowing’ the Catholic Church.

And all who are in heaven are Catholics regardless of what faith practice they held on earth. There is only one body of Christ, one Church.

This is not a boast nor is it arrogance it is just logic based on what the Church is by definition.
 
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