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Which makes me wonder, about the former catholics, who for whatever reason, are now in non-catholic churches. Are they good people who don’t know any better, or do they know better?
For myself it was (I believe anyway) I was not properly catechized when I was young. Everything I learned about the Catholic Church I learned when I was OUTSIDE the Catholic Church. I discovered, much to my horror, that I knew next to nothing compared to what I THOUGHT I knew.Which makes me wonder, about the former catholics, who for whatever reason, are now in non-catholic churches. Are they good people who don’t know any better, or do they know better?![]()
and what is the real Catholic Church? may i ask?Just a Servant:Over the years, I have seen the many faces of the catholic church; from the benevolent, God-fearing, humble servants, to the radical, profanity-spewing, beer drinking,cheating and of course, the dreaded “cafeteria catholics!” From priest sex abuse, to alleged abuse and cruelty in the U.K, I have tried to p(name removed by moderator)oint the “real” catholic church, which is one of the reasons for being on this forum.Humility, in my opinion, is one thing that can defeat hypocrisy, because you are reminded of God’s incredible grace! I don’t hate catholics, as some of them believe, I just disagree with certain aspects of their religion!
:byzsoc:I returned to the ‘Church of all ages’. The Church of Peter, Paul, Francis of Assisi, Bonaventure, and many others. With a billion people world-wide, the Catholic Church is truly diverse. Nominal Catholics are no surprise to me. The Church is far from perfect and not everyone is obedient to her. A few of my own nominal Catholic relatives show minimal interest in my coming back ("Oh, that’s good…HEY how about them Steelers!!!Just a Servant:Over the years, I have seen the many faces of the catholic church; from the benevolent, God-fearing, humble servants, to the radical, profanity-spewing, beer drinking,cheating and of course, the dreaded “cafeteria catholics!” From priest sex abuse, to alleged abuse and cruelty in the U.K, I have tried to p(name removed by moderator)oint the “real” catholic church, which is one of the reasons for being on this forum.Humility, in my opinion, is one thing that can defeat hypocrisy, because you are reminded of God’s incredible grace! I don’t hate catholics, as some of them believe, I just disagree with certain aspects of their religion!
a time will come and the time is now in which those who preach against the CC will realize that what they doing is really preaching against Christ Himself.I returned to the ‘Church of all ages’. The Church of Peter, Paul, Francis of Assisi, Bonaventure, and many others. With a billion people world-wide, the Catholic Church is truly diverse. Nominal Catholics are no surprise to me. The Church is far from perfect and not everyone is obedient to her. A few of my own nominal Catholic relatives show minimal interest in my coming back ("Oh, that’s good…HEY how about them Steelers!!!) Liberal Catholics do more damage to the Church than any wide-eyed anti-Catholic. They create nominal ‘Catholics’ who pick and choose what the doctrines of their Church they want believe in. They have created more fundamentalists, than fundamentalists have.
I am a conservative Catholic and traditional. I believe the Bible is the Word of God and I submit myself to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
The ‘real’ Catholic Church is there. Sometimes you have to be willing to look and see.
:byzsoc:it is not so much about our sins as much is about the True Gospel being heard. for Jesus Himself said: " I tell you what I heard from the Father." the Apostles says the same: I pass on to you what I have received from the Lord Himself."wisdomseeker: I don’t know what the “real” catholic church is! All of us Christians, and for that matter, all humans; sin, and fall short of the glory of GodI don’t believe that any church/religion can expect perfection from their congregation/parishioners. In fact, like the song says,“Perfection is my enemy.” Because we are followers of Christ, we should strive to be more like Him, but realize that because we wear flesh, we are vulnerable to temptation, and sin! Perfection would include setting dress codes(casually dressy would be okay), that don’t impress God anyway! As a 42 year Christian, I am learning everyday that I don’t know as much as I thought I did! Philippians 1:6 reminds me that He is not dine with me yet. So, wisdomseeker, I don’t know what the “real” catholic church looks like; or for that matter, the “real” non-catholic church! We just need to keep our focus on Jesus, and He will lead us home:thumbsup:
:byzsoc:are you basing the Truth of our Lord with the sins of some man? how about look at the many saints of the Church? you know, those who lead their lives as an example for all to follow. are you looking for all Catholics to be without sin so you believe that the CC is the True Church? are you better than those who sins?Is this man a hypocrite, or just a “bad” Christian? Co-worker of mine, claims to be a devout catholic Christian, married almost thirty(30) years, two children. Goes to mass when he can, but, I found out from another co-worker that he is not only sleeping with her, but has fathered two children outside of his marriageHe has not denied the affair, nor the fact that the children are indeed his. What should he do; join the approximately 25% of catholics who divorce, or stay married to his wife, and raise these two children that he has sired, with his mistress?
