Are the souls in Hell friends with eachother?

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Hell sure sounds like a bad place. But I think the damned get some consolation from the friends they have there adn all the interesting conversations they have with eachother.

Any ideas? Is Hell really Hell if you can talk with other people?
 
I doubt you can do anything in hell except suffer, and horribly so.
 
People in hell do not have any friends. This would be a confused understanding of hell because those in hell are radically opposed to God and everything good, so friendship is entirely outside of their nature.

It is vaguely understood that there is a sort of hierarchy, because Satan possesses a unique influence over other damned, but this order is entirely selfish and utilitarian and not based on any sort of brotherhood or devotion.
 
TK421 said:
People in hell do not have any friends. This would be a confused understanding of hell because those in hell are radically opposed to God and everything good, so friendship is entirely outside of their nature.

It is vaguely understood that there is a sort of hierarchy, because Satan possesses a unique influence over other damned, but this order is entirely selfish and utilitarian and not based on any sort of brotherhood or devotion.
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I conquer. If there’s anything even remotely good about something, they will not have it in hell. The only exception would be existing. That’s the only thing that’s good about the souls in hell. It’s really sad that they chose this for themselves. 😦
 
YoungApologist3 said:
I conquer. If there’s anything even remotely good about something, they will not have it in hell. The only exception would be existing. That’s the only thing that’s good about the souls in hell. It’s really sad that they chose this for themselves. 😦
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Did they really though? They chose to live a poor existence on earth… but had no idea what they were getting into.

This following clip I think summarizes the society of the damned: youtube.com/watch?v=HagGCzypwLQ&t=1s
 
The souls in hell are all experiencing the same suffering for which there will be no end. There is no such thing as a friend. Like it’s said, God doesn’t send anyone to hell. We send ourselves there if we do not live a righteous, holy life. We accept or reject God. Thank God for Priests, Deacons, and religious who preach the way, the truth, and the :getholy: life.
 
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Did they really though? They chose to live a poor existence on earth… but had no idea what they were getting into.

This following clip I think summarizes the society of the damned: youtube.com/watch?v=HagGCzypwLQ&t=1s
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I don’t have time to watch a video right now, unfortunately, but I will say this: my understanding is that everyone who God sends to hell would also send themself there, given the choice. This is actually merciful because they would be even more miserable if they were forced to be with God (who they chose to hate) for all eternity.
 
I must admit that while I believe it in, I do struggle with the concept that the vast majority of human beings, as many Christians have throughout Church history believed, will choose to be eternally damned…to suffer beyond our imagination…pain beyond comprehension…forever and ever and ever. I hope and pray that many more will be saved than we tend to think.
 
twf said:
I must admit that while I believe it in, I do struggle with the concept that the vast majority of human beings, as many Christians have throughout Church history believed, will choose to be eternally damned…to suffer beyond our imagination…pain beyond comprehension…forever and ever and ever. I hope and pray that many more will be saved than we tend to think.
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I believe that almost everybody gets Purgatory; that a creature so vulnerable as a human being has a hard time “earning” everlasting punishment. Great sinners are as rare as great saints, because both require a huge effort.

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GEddie said:
I believe that almost everybody gets Purgatory; that a creature so vulnerable as a human being has a hard time “earning” everlasting punishment. Great sinners are as rare as great saints, because both require a huge effort.

ICXC NIKA
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that is bishop barron’s view. he believes hell is nearly empty

i hope you are both correct
 
“Nearly empty” I suppose would be relative to how many are in Heaven. It is doctrine that there is a vast host of demons in hell, and they share a rational nature the same as we do, in being freely able to love God.

St Aquinas differentiates between two different kinds of “wanting”.

Nobody wants to suffer. If they did, it wouldn’t - by definition - be suffering anymore. What those in hell are remorseful about is not what they have done, or what they continue to do, but the fact that there are consequences for it. i.e. it is the difference between being sorry, and being sorry that you were caught, which is as big of a difference as east is from west. Everybody in hell will be sorry, but nonetheless, none of them will love God or ever love God. Their obstinacy is ongoing and eternal, which is the reason Hell is ongoing and eternal. The consequences are always measured & proportional and never more. Temporal punishment for temporal sin. Eternal punishment for eternal sin. If their obstinacy stopped, then hell would stop. But it will never stop.

In private revelation, the suffering of the damned would be increased in the direct presence of God, and in the distant place of hell it is decreased (but compared to earthly suffering, it is unimaginable).
 
brian_custer said:
that is bishop barron’s view. he believes hell is nearly empty

i hope you are both correct
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Actually it isn’t his view he said it was possible that hell was empty not that it definitively was. Those are two different things and I get tired of people saying this about him
 
I don’t think you need friends in hell you’re in hell, time for friends is over
 
As far as I know, the existence of demons is a doctrine that Catholics are obliged to believe.
 
brian_custer said:
that is bishop barron’s view. he believes hell is nearly empty

i hope you are both correct
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Yes, while many saints and theologians have taught that the vast majority of mankind is damned, there has always been a strand of Catholic thinking that hopes otherwise. Even among the Fathers.
 
TK421 said:
As far as I know, the existence of demons is a doctrine that Catholics are obliged to believe.
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Yes. We as Catholics must believe that there is a hell and that demons are damned. We must also believe that men can be damned. Some of us dare to hope that most will not be…
 
twf said:
Yes, while many saints and theologians have taught that the vast majority of mankind is damned, there has always been a strand of Catholic thinking that hopes otherwise. Even among the Fathers.
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It was a strand among the early Church & for most of Church history. Among contemporary Popes & theologians it is no longer a strand that either most will be saved and/or that not “a great majority” will be damned. The only doctrinally correct answer is that we are not revealed such a thing.

There is in one sense a very straightforward explanation for why Catholics (or other Christians) in most of history would believe that most are damned. It was believed that if you are/were a pagan from any part of the world, you were damned. If you were unbaptized and did not have baptism of desire, you were damned. That meant 100% of people outside of the Mediterranean region and 100% of unbaptized infants/children.
 
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