Are there ANY Bible Miracles you don't believe?

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I believe God can do whatever He wants with His creation. Read revelation. Heaven and Earth will disappear. Then God will create an eternity for us. Now that’s the power of God.
 
Is Father Jacki allowing for the Power of God in his writings
 
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If God did miracles in the past, God would do them today. The things people claim as miracles today all have possible natural explanations - spontaneous remission of cancer etc. Show me a re-grown limb, or a thousand-year old body that looks as good as new pulled up from a shallow tropical sea and I will think about miracles. Miracle stories are stories told to make a point. They are not stories about things that happened.
 
I think she brought up a good conversation piece. I am often intrigued by the age of the ancient people and prophets, not that I doubt them but curious how they came to be. Honestly, I did talk about it with my friends in the religious circle. They can be a few things:
  1. They lived up to the normal age but their counting of the years may be different. Obvuously, no Gregorian calendar which is a very recent thing.
  2. They could use the moons instead of years. Our natives would measure time by the moons. If it was moons, then 900 years would be 900 moons, which is 84 years, and more like today old age. They might live shorter life, of course.
  3. They could be miracles also - God purposely allowed them to live long lives to do His work on earth. But if that was, it would be quite unusual - how would the people related to them with such an old age? It is all left to our imagination.
Those are what I could think of.

I have no problem with the parting of the Red sea, for example. I think it was a miracle unlike what the movie makes of it - a low tide and tsunami.
 
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Miracles by definition would be ‘outside’ science anyway. But I think you’re maybe a little confused about ‘literalist scientific’ etc. I mean, I’ve heard the Jesus Seminar explanations about Jesus raising the widow’s son (the son wasn’t really dead, just in a deep coma --or to paraphrase The Princess Bride, he was only ‘mostly dead’). But if we believe, and as Christians we do believe, that Christ was incarnate of a Virgin, gave us His Flesh and His Blood to eat and drink, suffered, died, rose again from the dead and rules eternally with the Father and the Spirit, why would we suddenly have qualms about any other miracle God authorized?
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I agree 100%…science is the verification of evidence by analysis and testing. That’s not belief it’s science.
 
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Parting of the red sea and Lot’s wife turning into a pillar of salt.

Although I really don’t know if this is to be taken as literal interpretation.
 
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Badly argued. God does do miracles today still, but you attempt to move the goalpost by arguing as fact (which it isn’t) that what people claim as miracles 'all have possible natural explanations (which also isn’t true) and then attempt to narrow down miracles to ‘only’ what you will allow (and if I were to give you the story of the miracle of Calanda in the 17th century where after 2 years as a proven amputee (his leg had to be removed) a young man who had ceaselessly prayed for healing DID have his leg miraculously restored), with all sorts of primary source documentation from the time, you’ll probably point to one current author who ‘debunks it’ and state that everything was made up, etc. etc. even though he’s been ‘debunked’ himself. Miracles happen, and that, my friend, IS the point.
 
You are engaging in confirmation bias in accessing the Calanda claim. I’m not going to debate that issue here but there are plenty of reasons to be skeptical. Notice how amputee “miracles” are never contemporary when we have cameras, advanced medical science etc. What would you do with the very same circumstances and level of evidence as the Calanda claim, but the person was a devout Muslim who prayed to Allah?
 
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I do roll my eyes at the ages of the OT patriarchs though. I don’t for one minute believe that some guy lived 900 years, or was journeying across the desert at age 100.
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If God can’t manage 900 years, then he has no hope of granting eternal salvation, unless eternity is less than 900 years.
 
Has nothing to do with what God can manage. As stated above, these ages do not seem to be presented as miraculous works of God. They appear more likely to be some different way of either reckoning time or assigning a person an age.
 
I don’t believe the story of Noah’s Ark…it’s a retelling of the Epic of Gilgamesh, but in monotheistic terms.
 
The bigger point is that scripture is the living word of God in Catholic Tradition. It’s not a dead letter subject to scientific examination, as in a test tube.

Whether an individual comprehends and believes a super-natural occurrence or not, the living word of God is life changing and saving Truth.

That’s the point of Scripture. It transmits God’s saving truth through Jesus Christ.
 
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I do roll my eyes at the ages of the OT patriarchs though. I don’t for one minute believe that some guy lived 900 years, or was journeying across the desert at age 100.
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If God can’t manage 900 years, then he has no hope of granting eternal salvation, unless eternity is less than 900 years.
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Eternal salvation involves the glorified body, not an earthly physical body.
So does it really matter if the poster is skeptical of the biblical time frame of 900 literal years with a temporal body? Not really.

I respect a faith that endures despite difficulty accepting the super-natural.
 
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