Are TLM readings different than ordinary form ones?

[dshix]

Well, it happens to be a Benedictine abbey, so they have a fair bit of practice. Ora et Labora and all that. It’s actually their day job

They also do Lauds and Vespers in Latin in Gregorian chant, and the other hours in French plainchant (with Latin hymn).

Oh, well that makes sense.

I wasn’t surprised that they are capable of sightreading/learning all that chant (I can sightread chant I’ve never seen before in a pinch) but rather was surprised that they had the time to do it every day.

How beautiful that must be!

 

[OraLabora]

Oh, well that makes sense.

I wasn’t surprised that they are capable of sightreading/learning all that chant (I can sightread chant I’ve never seen before in a pinch) but rather was surprised that they had the time to do it every day.

How beautiful that must be!

It really is quite beautiful indeed! Not just the chant, but the liturgy, overall. The attention to detail in the procession, the silence after readings (chanted in French plainchant btw), the incense, everything. Holy week and the Triduum just blows me away… sometimes I’m reduced to tears, like at the chanting of Crux Fidels on Good Friday or the Pange Lingua as the Blessed Sacrament is carried away in procession to the altar of repose.

(not recordings of our abbey… but you get the idea).

However the community is starting to feel the effects of its advancing age and declining numbers, so please pray for more vocations to keep chant and Benedictine spirituality alive in Eastern Canada.

 

[dshix]

It really is quite beautiful indeed! Not just the chant, but the liturgy, overall. The attention to detail in the procession, the silence after readings (chanted in French plainchant btw), the incense, everything. Holy week and the Triduum just blows me away… sometimes I’m reduced to tears, like at the chanting of Crux Fidels on Good Friday or the Pange Lingua as the Blessed Sacrament is carried away in procession to the altar of repose.

(not recordings of our abbey… but you get the idea).

However the community is starting to feel the effects of its advancing age and declining numbers, so please pray for more vocations to keep chant and Benedictine spirituality alive in Eastern Canada.

You know, in every parish I’ve been to, I’ve noticed that the quality of the music is, in a way, a way to judge the quality of the liturgy. In a parish where there is Gregorian chant and polyphony, I always note a pervading spirit of reverence and wholehearted fervor, whereas when a parish has rock music and altar call hymns you’ll note that there is no feel of reverence to the way people carry themselves, or even the way they dress.

The music really does put into our minds a degree of spiritual fervor.

 

[Diana_Catherine]

Actually, it does bother me a bit that the Ordinary Form has different readings and a different calendar than those which the Church had traditionally followed. Then again, there must have been reasons to adopt those changes, so I respect both forms.

 

[odile53]

In terms of different readings in the different forms, there can also be differing readings in the ordinary form (on weekdays) if the celebrant is a member of a religious order of priests. Several of the big orders have their own liturgical calendars, which closely follow the Roman calendar but spotlight various canonized saints of that order. So the Franciscan run parish three blocks away from the diocesan staffed parish might be using different readings on the same weekday.

 

[ProVobis]

Is the Old Testament ever read in the EF?

Actually some of it is part of the Mass Ordinary, such as the Judica Me, dialogue, and the Lavabo, submissa voce, both psalms.

 

[malphono]

It really is quite beautiful indeed! Not just the chant, but the liturgy, overall. The attention to detail in the procession, the silence after readings (chanted in French plainchant btw), the incense, everything.

Yes, I know. Ah but if only the offertory (and a few other things) were different … but I digress.

However the community is starting to feel the effects of its advancing age and declining numbers, so please pray for more vocations to keep chant and Benedictine spirituality alive in Eastern Canada.

I really do not mean to be at all adversarial here (you know I respect L’Abbaye S Benôit (and you) quite a lot, so I don’t think I have to “apologize” for saying this), but maybe a dose of the Usus Antiquior (particularly in its Benedictine guise) could help in that regard. At the very least, I don’t think it would hurt.

 

[OraLabora]

Yes, I know. Ah but if only the offertory (and a few other things) were different … but I digress.

I really do not mean to be at all adversarial here (you know I respect L’Abbaye S Benôit (and you) quite a lot, so I don’t think I have to “apologize” for saying this), but maybe a dose of the Usus Antiquior (particularly in its Benedictine guise) could help in that regard. At the very least, I don’t think it would hurt.

I don’t think that dog will hunt, at least not with the present abbot (whom I admire greatly, BTW).

The do use the offertory from the Graduale, but only occasionally in the alternating verse style, usually it’s just sung straight through.