Are we all descendants of Adam and Eve?

[savedsinner]

Yes, we all decended from Adam and Eve.

But some people I have met act like they might have decended from Ape.

 

[TripleR]

One of the reasons for our belief that we are all descendants of Adam and Eve is that is the only way there could be one entity called the human race. If “humans” arose in various places and times in early Earth’s history, then there is no such thing as one human family, created by God, fallen through sin, but called back to unity in Christ.

As for who Cain married and interacted with, we must assume that Adam and Eve had many children and that brothers and sisters intermarried. The marriage of a brother and sister is against God’s positive and revealed law, but not against the natural law per se, so it could have been part of God’s early plan for humanity.

 

[Joe_5859]

As for who Cain married and interacted with, we must assume that Adam and Eve had many children and that brothers and sisters intermarried…

We can do more than assume. Genesis 5:4 states that Adam had other sons and daughters besides the three that are named in Scripture.

 

[TripleR]

Yeah, thanks, Joe. After I posted that, I realized it was poorly phrased. I am new here on the forum and know that my biggest problem will be wanting to dash off responses rather than taking the time to look up references!

Peace.

 

[Joe_5859]

Yeah, thanks, Joe. After I posted that, I realized it was poorly phrased. I am new here on the forum and know that my biggest problem will be wanting to dash off responses rather than taking the time to look up references!

Peace.

Not a problem! There’s plenty of people like that here, so you’re in good company!

Of course, I’ve never been guilty of such a thing! If you believe that, let me interest you in a particular bridge that I just put up on eBay!

Oh, and, by the way, Welcome to CAF!

 

[Joe_Kelley]

Note Legacy of Teilhard? (Farley Clinton, Inside The Vatican, June-July 2003) re the condemnation of Teilhard’s writings.

When Catholics accept Teilhard, two ancient heresies move suddenly back to center stage.

Pantheism holds that God is not different from the world, is mixed up with the world, is the soul of the world. Pelagianism, in its Teilhardian form, asserts that there was no Adam, no Eve, no original sin. There is, naturally, no need for redemption from that original sin. There is no supernatural destiny to the vision of God, lost by original sin, which Christ has restored to us. Thus there was no atonement for original sin by the death of Jesus, no supreme sacrifice on Calvary, no Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, and in fact no Christian hope of Heaven.

The popularity of this teaching has been phenomenal.

 

[abu_kamoon]

“The catholic Church also refuses the idea of PolyGenism (many parents), so that the Catholic church holds there were a first pair of humans “with spirits” as opposed to primates without. (That’s not to say how God formed the slime of the Earth into Adam, but only that God could have done it in many ways.)”

Humans “with spirits”? Primates without?

Even the King Jimmy Bible says the first two people. This nonsense about primates magically being infused with spirits is the height of folly, as well as basphemy.

 

[Starwynd]

The Bible goes against the idea of a Lillith being a 2nd wife to Adam, by stating Eve was “the mother of all living”:

Lilith is a Hebrew legend and she was the first mate or wife of Adam. She rebelled because God requires women to be completely yet willingly subservient to men and she wanted to be an equal partner.

 

[Jerry-Jet]

I believe that Adam and Eve were the first homo sapiens.

I believe that Neanderthals were soulless.

Would it have been possible for Cain to have intermarried with neanderthals?

 

[Jerry-Jet]

Is the question I asked too hot to handle for BOTH Biblical literalist young earth creationists AND evoutionists who don 't believe that Genesis can sometimes be historical?

 

[Jerry-Jet]

I guess it is!

 

[Holly3278]

Yes, we are all descendants of Adam and Eve.

 

[tobinatorstark]

we are all descendants of Adam and Eve. Everyone will be til the end of time. If you think about it we are also descending from Noah. When the great flood occurred and most of the human race was wiped out during that time. Noah’s offspring repopulated the earth just as Adam and Eve’s offspring had. For those who don’t know Jesus bloodline. God chose Adam’s son Seth to begin the bloodline. Eventually the the twelve tribes of Israel would include the apostles in their bloodline, as Jesus descended from the Tribe of Juda. For more about Jesus’ bloodline look at Mathew 1:1-17 for a detaling of Jesus’ bloodline. There is also one in Luke, but it is harder for me to understand. However yes we are descendants of Adam and Eve

 

[Fidelis]

I believe that Adam and Eve were the first homo sapiens.

I believe that Neanderthals were soulless.

Would it have been possible for Cain to have intermarried with neanderthals?

If Neanderthals were truly soul-less that would, by definition, make them animals – exceptional apes, perhaps, but still animals. As we know from Genesis 2:18-20, none of the animals were a suitable mate for the man. Thus the special creation of Eve.

As the responses above indicate, Cain’s wife was apparently one of his sisters (or possibly his niece). This was possible at that time, among other reasons, because of the great life-spans at that time enabling the procreation of many children over a long period of time, and the fact that the gene pool had not yet had time to become contaminated (a Jewish tradition, cited by Josephus, states that Adam and Eve had 33 sons and 23 daughters. After all, the command was “To be fruitful and multiply”). Bear in mind, there was no legal or religious proscription against consanguinity until Leviticus. By that time, the gene pool had been corrupted and there were so many people, marriages between close relations were not needed any longer.

Who was Cain’s Wife?
angelfire.com/ms/seanie/cainswife.html

Interesting stuff. I’m leading a Bible study on this topic this week.

 

[rockyankeeswon]

we are all descendants of Adam and Eve. Everyone will be til the end of time. If you think about it we are also descending from Noah. When the great flood occurred and most of the human race was wiped out during that time. Noah’s offspring repopulated the earth just as Adam and Eve’s offspring had. For those who don’t know Jesus bloodline. God chose Adam’s son Seth to begin the bloodline. Eventually the the twelve tribes of Israel would include the apostles in their bloodline, as Jesus descended from the Tribe of Juda. For more about Jesus’ bloodline look at Mathew 1:1-17 for a detaling of Jesus’ bloodline. There is also one in Luke, but it is harder for me to understand. However yes we are descendants of Adam and Eve

I understand that all men under normal circumstances are decendents of adam and in need of salvation because of their inherited lack of gods grace presence…but since mary is concieved without sin by a special grace!..why does she still need a personal savior…since the special grace has over-riden the inherited condition?

 

[davidv]

I understand that all men under normal circumstances are decendents of adam and in need of salvation because of their inherited lack of gods grace presence…but since mary is concieved without sin by a special grace!..why does she still need a personal savior…since the special grace has over-riden the inherited condition?

The “savior’s” work was the source of the “special grace”.

 

[rockyankeeswon]

The “savior’s” work was the source of the “special grace”.

Christs work on the cross became neccessary only after sin (or godly separation) entered mankind. It was my understanding that the graces that jesus won for our salvation or return to god was just that? Was not grace present in the old testament? I would think that for god to create a special vessel free from normal sin,would be like god creating something out of nothing! I would think that marys sinless creation would be no different than any other divine act in the old testament and not contingent on jesus’ cross before the fact? But i may be wrong!

 

[davidv]

Christs work on the cross became neccessary only after sin (or godly separation) entered mankind. It was my understanding that the graces that jesus won for our salvation or return to god was just that? Was not grace present in the old testament? I would think that for god to create a special vessel free from normal sin,would be like god creating something out of nothing! I would think that marys sinless creation would be no different than any other divine act in the old testament and not contingent on jesus’ cross before the fact? But i may be wrong!

I would conclude, base on this excerpt from the Catholic Encyclopedia article on “Immaculate Conception”, that the Church teaches that the source of the “special grace” is in Christ’s saving act.

THE DOCTRINE.—In the Constitution “Ineffabilis Deus” of December 8, 1854, Pius IX pronounced and defined that the Blessed Virgin Mary “in the first instant of her conception, by a singular privilege and grace granted by God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved exempt from all stain of original sin” (Denzinger, “Enchiridion”, 10th ed., n. 1641).

 

[huckleberry]

The fact that people are still asking this question is kind of sad. The Adam and Eve story is metaphorical.

 

[Jerry-Jet]

huckleberry: Exactly who do you think was the first person in the bible that was historical and not metaphorical and why?