Are we all TOO TOLERANT of others?

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I forgot to add, the way we allow violence in the US is a big problem. The Europeans have more laws about violence in tv and moves than sex. I do think that makes a difference in society.

Now I sound like everything in Europe is super, but the US definately has it’s advantages.
 
It depends on how you take the question. After just reading the title I thought, you as catholics…no. The US as a whole…yes. But after reading the post I got the jist that you meant the US as a whole. I think we do allow too much, its to the point of absurdity. Kids nowadays are so screwed up and lack respect. Even just the gap between my generation and those that are kids right now is astounding (I’m only 20). I

'm disgusted on a daily basis by what I see on TV, I saw an ad for sex toys this afternoon on a network channel! I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. :mad: Most children have very little respect for adults or other people. I blame the parents for not doing their job and the media for shoving inappropriate garbage at them. Seeing the way kids are nowadays almost makes me want to have a kid just to raise it to be a decent, respectful human being…and I can’t stand kids:mad:
 
I don’t really buy into the idea that we have to expose our children to the evils of the world so that they can go out and handle it later on. I think that we need to give them a great foundation in their faith so that they can identify what is right and what is wrong. my husband is a cop. He could tell you horror stories about children who are exposed to the world. You don’t have to give them “Playboy” so that they can identify that pictures of naked people are wrong. Certainly we don’t need to jump them into a gang so that they know gangs are bad. Satin loves gray area. That is his most effective tool. I want my children to be shocked by the evil in this world. Evil is shocking. When we are exposed to enough gray area, evil becomes less shocking. Give them a great education in their faith and keep their innocence in tact. I try to avoid the near occation of sin so that I may not fall from grace. Why would I do anything less for the ones that I love.
 
I don’t really buy into the idea that we have to expose our children to the evils of the world so that they can go out and handle it later on. I think that we need to give them a great foundation in their faith so that they can identify what is right and what is wrong. my husband is a cop. He could tell you horror stories about children who are exposed to the world. You don’t have to give them “Playboy” so that they can identify that pictures of naked people are wrong. Certainly we don’t need to jump them into a gang so that they know gangs are bad. Satin loves gray area. That is his most effective tool. I want my children to be shocked by the evil in this world. Evil is shocking. When we are exposed to enough gray area, evil becomes less shocking. Give them a great education in their faith and keep their innocence in tact. I try to avoid the near occation of sin so that I may not fall from grace. Why would I do anything less for the ones that I love.
I must admit when I clicked on this thread I winced. I just knew that it would be taken over by moral realativists, but lo and behold rationaly and striving to be holy and better people responded!!! I am so pleased with what you all have said on this thread. It makes me have some hope in a world where (even on Catholic Answers Forum) we seem to have lost our way.

The reason I quoted the above post was because it was exelent. I think we all need support like this from our fellow Catholics.
 
Want a reality check with your 12 & 14 year old???

Visit Washington DC, and spend a day at the Halocaust Museum.

This’ll eliminate “gray”, and put the true BLACK of evil in their minds.

Of our vacation this spring break, this visit had the most meaningful “Wow, I didn’t think…” conversations at dinner of any of our stops.
 
You hit the nail on the head with your post (the original post). What bothers me the most is that there is no way I can protect my kids from hearing and seeing this stuff. Sure, I can monitor what is on the TV, and what is on the radio in the car (we only listen to a Christian station), but my kids are both teens and are not under my nose all day long. And I can tell by some of the things they say that they have been exposed to this stuff. It’s really upsetting, and these kids are at a very impressionable age.

We go to church regularly, and we pray, and we try to lead by example, and we talk about values, and the pressures that kids are under, but I can tell you, based on some problems we are having with our 17-year-old, they are definately influenced by their PEERS at this age.
 
The Halocaust is shocking now that we see the big picture, but people didn’t just one day love the Jews and then the next day slaughter them. Their tolerance was built up. They started with gray.
 
I wasn’t talking about the “one day” of long ago… or decades of bigotry & stupidity simmering…

I was talking about how the “PC sugar-coated” history they’re taught in school was torn away, and they witnessed themselves the evidence of evil.

As US citizens our use of the Bill of Rights has been diluted. Everyone is in such fear of offending someone, and thus allowing all this “stuff” to come out… we’ve forgotten that the Rights are a two-way street!

Too flippin bad if your 20000 member group’s feelings got hurt… the 10 MILLION other residents of the community don’t want to hear/see/alter the majority behavior to accommodate your quirks…

(I’d better shut up now…)
 
(I’d better shut up now…)
NO you shouldn’t. That, I think, is one of our problems today. We shut up.

I’m 46. When I was a kid I was afraid of being caught chewing gum at school. I knew I’d be in big trouble if a neighbor ever heard me swear (heck even 3 blocks away where they didn’t know me). The reality is that we all shut up and mind our own business now. Maybe we need to realize that society is our business? Maybe when we see bad behavior we should not be so afraid to talk to the parents of the child? Or point out to the child that they are behaving badly. And maybe if our children were corrected by our neighbors, like it was when we were kids, then maybe there would be less of this junk on TV? And less of it in the streets?

I’m just thinking out loud, don’t have the answers, but I sure don’t like a lot of what I see around me!

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Want a reality check with your 12 & 14 year old???

Visit Washington DC, and spend a day at the Halocaust Museum.
Last year we visited the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago, they had a special traveling exhibit of the Halocaust. VERY POWERFUL. I stood in awe, and horror.
You hit the nail on the head with your post (the original post). What bothers me the most is that there is no way I can protect my kids from hearing and seeing this stuff.
And maybe that is why we need help from others, and we need to help others. . . by being less tolerant? I’m not a big fan of Senator Clinton, but she wrote “IT TAKES A VILLAGE” and much as I don’t like a lot of her socialistic economic/social policies, the title of her book, and some of the themes sure seem to make sense. In every landfill there is a little bit of buried treasure.
 
NO you shouldn’t. That, I think, is one of our problems today. We shut up.

I’m 46. When I was a kid I was afraid of being caught chewing gum at school. I knew I’d be in big trouble if a neighbor ever heard me swear (heck even 3 blocks away where they didn’t know me). The reality is that we all shut up and mind our own business now. Maybe we need to realize that society is our business? Maybe when we see bad behavior we should not be so afraid to talk to the parents of the child? Or point out to the child that they are behaving badly. And maybe if our children were corrected by our neighbors, like it was when we were kids, then maybe there would be less of this junk on TV? And less of it in the streets?

I’m just thinking out loud, don’t have the answers, but I sure don’t like a lot of what I see around me!

🤷

Last year we visited the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago, they had a special traveling exhibit of the Halocaust. VERY POWERFUL. I stood in awe, and horror.

And maybe that is why we need help from others, and we need to help others. . . by being less tolerant? I’m not a big fan of Senator Clinton, but she wrote “IT TAKES A VILLAGE” and much as I don’t like a lot of her socialistic economic/social policies, the title of her book, and some of the themes sure seem to make sense. In every landfill there is a little bit of buried treasure.
I am too tolerant at times so it is nice to read a thread with some good :newidea: :newidea:
sometimes kids and adults never hear it from anyone else so I suppose we should all speak up.
Dessert

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I am too tolerant at times so it is nice to read a thread with some good :newidea: :newidea:
sometimes kids and adults never hear it from anyone else so I suppose we should all speak up.
Dessert

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‘Be Jesus … Share Jesus’
Blessed Mother Teresa**
Well I’m really happy with the way this thread is turning out. I’m a moderator at an international general discussion forum and someone from England posted a thread about the fact that Americans are too INTOLERANT. The thread went on for several posts and I just could not hold my tongue any longer and I went off into a tirade about how many of societies ills are related to being way too tolerant.
  • Seems we used to not be tolerant of divorce, we are now, divorce rate skyrocketed.
  • We used to think it was bad to be an unwed mother, now a huge % of children are born out of wedlock. Fatherless boys have a tendency toward violence, poor grades, and a larger than average % end up in prison.
  • We used to think premarital sex was bad, now we have so many teen pregnancies that it is a pandemic.
    There are just too many examples to list and I’m glad I’m not the only one who is tired of this stuff. Unfortunately, too many people seem to be tolerant 😦
 
I don’t really buy into the idea that we have to expose our children to the evils of the world so that they can go out and handle it later on. I think that we need to give them a great foundation in their faith so that they can identify what is right and what is wrong. my husband is a cop. He could tell you horror stories about children who are exposed to the world. You don’t have to give them “Playboy” so that they can identify that pictures of naked people are wrong. Certainly we don’t need to jump them into a gang so that they know gangs are bad. Satin loves gray area. That is his most effective tool. I want my children to be shocked by the evil in this world. Evil is shocking. When we are exposed to enough gray area, evil becomes less shocking. Give them a great education in their faith and keep their innocence in tact. I try to avoid the near occation of sin so that I may not fall from grace. Why would I do anything less for the ones that I love.
I’m with you. I reject utterly the idea that I have to inoculate my daughters with sub-lethal doses of evil to build up their tolerance. Tolerance of evil is the problem.
 
I went off into a tirade about how many of societies ills are related to being way too tolerant.
  • …of divorce,…
  • …unwed mother…
  • …premarital sex…
There are just too many examples to list 😦
I can’t leave off murder. I’m just sick when I hear so-called Catholics say, “Well I’m personally opposed to abortion but who am I to impose my morals…”

If we can’t draw the line somewhere before letting people slaughter their offspring, how do we plan to stop a little T&A on a billboard?
 
Well I’m really happy with the way this thread is turning out. I’m a moderator at an international general discussion forum and someone from England posted a thread about the fact that Americans are too INTOLERANT. The thread went on for several posts and I just could not hold my tongue any longer and I went off into a tirade about how many of societies ills are related to being way too tolerant.
  • Seems we used to not be tolerant of divorce, we are now, divorce rate skyrocketed.
  • We used to think it was bad to be an unwed mother, now a huge % of children are born out of wedlock. Fatherless boys have a tendency toward violence, poor grades, and a larger than average % end up in prison.
  • We used to think premarital sex was bad, now we have so many teen pregnancies that it is a pandemic.
    There are just too many examples to list and I’m glad I’m not the only one who is tired of this stuff. Unfortunately, too many people seem to be tolerant 😦
Welcome to this forum, I don’t see how they think we are too intollerant.
But maybe they just have a quick fix for their problem; ie; morning after pill, as we tend to argue and argue over and over the ethical issues of everything.
Dessert
 
It depends on how you take the question. After just reading the title I thought, you as catholics…no. The US as a whole…yes. But after reading the post I got the jist that you meant the US as a whole. I think we do allow too much, its to the point of absurdity. Kids nowadays are so screwed up and lack respect. Even just the gap between my generation and those that are kids right now is astounding (I’m only 20). I

'm disgusted on a daily basis by what I see on TV, I saw an ad for sex toys this afternoon on a network channel! I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. :mad: Most children have very little respect for adults or other people. I blame the parents for not doing their job and the media for shoving inappropriate garbage at them. Seeing the way kids are nowadays almost makes me want to have a kid just to raise it to be a decent, respectful human being…and I can’t stand kids:mad:
And the add for Cialis and Viagra. Always trying to shove sex down our throats like it is the most important thing when all they really want is to make money off the drugs.
I don’t watch a lot of TV like to read or listen to music but I work a lot too so not much time. dessert
 
I’m still floored at this commercial for gum. It shows a girl seeing a guy that she’s physically interested in, she pops a piece of this gum in her mouth and goes over and forcefully kisses him this big open mouthed kiss. Then looks at his girlfriend and the women give each other this look of “I can do you too” with huge smiles on their faces. Um… this is a commercial for GUM, yet sex sells.
Ther is a new commercial on Foxtel Satellite here. It is for a chain of Indian Restaurants which also sells cook-in sauces so you can make it at home if you want.

The scene opens with the really beautiful woman getting ready for work, putting her earings on. She’s talking about how she 'needs her N****‘s fix’ and how she bought the ‘patches’ but they are obtrusive at work. Scene changes to her on the runway at a sleazy bar, pole dancing wearing only a tiny g-string with the N****'s patch stuck underneath it. She then squats down with her butt in this fat old bald guy’s face. The ‘gentleman’ who was about to put some money in her g-string grimaces with distaste at her ‘addiction’ and withdraws his hand.

She then turns around to face the camera, still hanging from the pole, with one arm crossed over her chest so you can’t see everything, but near enough, to talk about how you can get your 'N****‘s fix’ without having to resort to patches cause the restaurants are everywhere and you can enjoy it with your family. (I think this is what she said. I was so gob-smacked at this nearly-naked pole-dancing woman selling curry at 8pm that I wasn’t listening closely)

Scene changes again to show the same woman out with her husband and 2 children at a N****"s restaurant looking for all the world like a wholesome SAHM, while she blathers on about how she can now get her ‘fix’ and it won’t ever interfere with her pole-dancing again. Husband and children behave as if this work is quite normal for Mom.

The next time I saw this ad it was on at 2:30pm on Saturday afternoon during a live AFL football game, which children of all ages would be expected to watch. I turned off the sound and closed my eyes.

Worse, this town is famous for its red-light district. Summer evenings, the girls sit on the front verandahs of the brothels, in their working clothes, perched on stools so they can be seen. This is the next block to one of the main supermarkets. The first time I saw them, the boys, aged 5 & 7 were with me and they didn’t miss a thing. Then there are the ‘skimpy’ bar maids in the hotels on the main street. Skimpy refers to their clothing. These bars have big picture windows so you can see into them while sitting at the traffic light. Or send your child into the newsagent to get the paper and he gets an eyeful of the girlie magazines on the shelf just above the newspapers. Why can’t they put the girlie mags in the back?

It is everywhere and tolerated. Any complaints about it get the complainer labeled a wowser or someone who just wants to spoil everyone else’s fun by imposing their uptight religious morals on everyone.

We successfully campaigned to keep a restaurant from opening here which was to feature naked girls lying on tables, covered with saran wrap, with the food served on them and eaten off of them. So, as the patrons ate, the girl was more and more visible. Yeah, we were called wowsers.

I had the petition in my office when one of the bosses from head office came. He saw it and removed it. I asked him about it and he said he didn’t see anything wrong with it. So I asked him if he would still like it if one of the girls was his daughter. He hesitated but said, yeah, if that is what she really wanted to do, as if it was something to aspire to, like being a doctor. He didn’t have children at the time. Now he does, 2 daughters and 1 son, and although our paths have separated, I would like to ask him again and see if his views have changed.
 
We successfully campaigned to keep a restaurant from opening here which was to feature naked girls lying on tables, covered with saran wrap, with the food served on them and eaten off of them. So, as the patrons ate, the girl was more and more visible.
:bigyikes:

I don’t even have words for this… Pardon me as I find my eyeballs and put them back in their sockets. I pray my tile floor did minimal damage to my jaw.

Thank God your campaign won!!!
 
I just can’t STAND the way sex and violence and bad behaviour is thrown at us every single day! It has come to the point that I feel that I just can’t watch TV or listen to the radio anymore…or read magazines. I don’t want to pollute my mind with such garbage. I do watch the sport however, but that’s about it.

I just don’t know what to do 😦 Sometimes I feel that I’m the only one in the world that is bothered by it.

…and to you who are Americans. You wouldn’t believe the amount of American programs they show over here in Europe and how disgusting many of them are. People get the impression that Americans are sex obsessed and run around shooting each other. Now I know that there are plenty of Americans who are good decent people and what is shown on TV is part of the minority, but we are only exposed to that side of the story, the side that is shown on TV. If I was American I would definately want better control over the filth that was exported. Europe is getting more and more anti-american and I think TV has a lot to do with it. Programs like Jerry Springer and “Who wants to be a ***** cat doll” etc. Is that really the impression you want to give to the world?
 
Someone mentioned that although they don’t care for all of H. Clinton’s ideas, they do agree with the village thing. I slept on that. That is part of the problem. I am the parent and I don’t want a village raising my child. God didn’t say you have two parents and a village to raise you. This village that I live in is out of hand. I don’t have cable TV, or a dish. We have five local channels and we rarely turn it on. I only allow my children one half hour program a day. I have never seen these commercials and just reading about them was more than I want. Some I couldn’t get through because they turned my stomach. All this is conformation that I need to continue to shield my children from this garbage. What some people call reality is actually sinnful nature that has warped and difigured the true reality.
 
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