Are We Being Forced To Accept Homosexuality?

[AnneMary]

Do not accuse me of hating homosexuals. I do not hate anybody. My uncle was a proud homosexual and I loved him with all my heart. However, I disagreed with his lifestyle choices. Gay people are much more than just homosexuals; they are kind and loving people. I would never hate anyone simply because I disagreed with one aspect of their lives.

I don’t hate homosexuals also . The truth is that the real Hate is expressed by homosexuals themselves against everyone having the courage to say that homosexuality is a sin . I felt the hate , very powerful and true .
Secondly :the question is :"*are we being forced to accespt homosexuality *? My answer was : Yes , we are forced ( through immoral culture and not only ) .There is another question : " are we accepting homosexuality ? " . My answer is " No" never .

 

[Valke2]

19:4 They had not yet lain down, and the people of the city, the people of of Sodom, surrounded the house, from youth to old man, all the people, from the farthest reaches.

This is a more accurate interpretation, according to Richard E. Friedman. His commentary goes on to say that the homosexuality interpretation apparently comes from misunderstanding the Hebrew word “anasim” to mean “men,” instead of “people.”

 

[Valke2]

Read Genesis 19. It clearly states that men came to Lot’s house and wanted to have sex with the 2 strangers. And Lot offered his two virgin daughters, but they refused.

19:4 “They had not yet lain down, and the people of the city, the people of of Sodom, surrounded the house, from youth to old man, all the people, from the farthest reaches.”

This is a more accurate interpretation, according to Richard E. Friedman. His commentary goes on to say that the homosexuality interpretation apparently comes from misunderstanding the Hebrew word “anasim” to mean “men,” instead of “people.”

 

[Valke2]

Forgive me for the question, but does the law condone any kind of sex between people of the same sex? You said anal, but I must ask about oral. Is that permitted?
Somehow, I doubt it. Can you help with the answer?

Anal intercourse is prohibited because in the Torah itself, the verse prohibiting a man from laying with a man as if he were a woman is interpreted as a prohibition against anal sex. The ruling did not, as I recall, address what was permissible, only what was prohibited. So I would assume oral sex is not prohibited under the ruling. Oral sex in Judaism is a bit controversial. Some will say it is prohibited because the Torah prohibits the intentional destruction of seed. But others will argue since there is no intent to avoid procreation, but rather only an intent to engage in something different and enjoyalbe, it is permitted (between spouses).

And sex and procreation are two things inseperable for what marriage is by God made for. How can you say it is a marriage if you are forbidding them to do what God intended for married people to do? And how can you say that they can be married if they can never become parents in a natural way…because they are unnaturaly fitted together?

Judaism does not necessarly agree that sex is only or even primarily for procreation. Pleasure is just as valid a reason.

 

[Valke2]

You know you guys are fighting over the Law with a Jew? As a goyim I have learned never to do this. Arguing impurities,REALLY NOT a good idea, and If he brings out the Rabbinic literature thats been mulling God over longer than our church has been around, he can blow you away just listen and learn what the law is and not what we as christians have distorted it to be.

I just want to emphasize that the law that I’m discussing is halacha that was put forth only in 2006 by conservative judaism. Orthodox Jews would not agree and would be more in line with traditional catholicism on the subject of homosexuality.

 

[Valke2]

Leviticus was not written by men, but as commanded by God.

Ed

And yet there is much in Leviticus that christians are not required to follow. To simply say this is so because Jesus replaced these laws is a bit circular if one takes the positions that God’s laws are eternal and unchanging.

 

[Valke2]

Jesus Christ came to bring mercy and forgiveness. We are not bound to that part of the law, since Jesus came and died and resurrected from the dead. We are bound by many things, but murder is not one of them.

But that verse of the Bible very clearly explains how detrimental the sin of homosexuality is. And don’t say that if I am not going to take the whole verse, I cannot have any of it. Or that if the law changed saying parents don’t have to murder their children for that sin anymore, then homosexual acts are no longer sinful either. That is just not true. The punishment for the sin changed…and that is it. For St. Paul talks about the horror of homosexual sins in the same place as he talks about other sins. So, the act of homosexuality is still a sin.

The verse in the bible that you are referring to can be interpreted to be a prohibition against the act of male anal sex.

 

[buffalo]

Firstly, I would never spit in anyone’s face.

Secondly, you have no idea who I am or what I am like so you really can’t pass comment. I do not hide my beliefs from anybody and I don’t care who I offend. I have openly admitted to gay co-workers that I disagree with their lifestyle choices. I view homosexuality to be a mental disorder; I don’t think same sex attraction should be vilified, it should be treated. However, the choice to act upon homosexual desires in any way is sinful and wrong. You strike me as an outspoken homosexual. I want you to know that I am an outspoken Catholic and I will never deny my beliefs for fear that they may offend someone. If asked, I flatly tell homosexuals they are wrong for engaging in sodomy. Those are my beliefs and I don’t care whether you like it or not. I will proudly proclaim the teachings of the Church, nothing more and nothing less.

Do not accuse me of hating homosexuals. I do not hate anybody. My uncle was a proud homosexual and I loved him with all my heart. However, I disagreed with his lifestyle choices. Gay people are much more than just homosexuals; they are kind and loving people. I would never hate anyone simply because I disagreed with one aspect of their lives.

Newsflash - If you disagree it is hate. That is a tactic and it has worked amazingly well.

 

[pnewton]

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

 

[Dempsey1919]

Newsflash - If you disagree it is hate. That is a tactic and it has worked amazingly well.

The Gay Rights Movement silence all opposition using the world “hate.” Anybody who dares to disagree with them is called a hateful bigot. Another tactic is to claim that all who disagree are secretly gay themselves; they say that anybody who “hates” homosexuality must be trying to hide their own same sex attraction. The homosexuals use these tactics to close down any debate. They can’t really disprove arguments against homosexuality, and so they do their best to shatter the reputations of those who oppose them to discredit their opinions.

 

[Jesus_N_Cherie]

19:4 “They had not yet lain down, and the people of the city, the people of of Sodom, surrounded the house, from youth to old man, all the people, from the farthest reaches.”

This is a more accurate interpretation, according to Richard E. Friedman. His commentary goes on to say that the homosexuality interpretation apparently comes from misunderstanding the Hebrew word “anasim” to mean “men,” instead of “people.”

I have no idea who this Richard E. Friedman is. I do know that they have changed many interpretations of the Bible, that are the TRUE interpretations. The translation I offered is from the Latin Vulgate. It is not politically correct…it is TRUTH.

And since the time of Sodom and Gamorrah it has been known by all of God’s people that it was the sin of sodomy…that’s where the word came from…that Sodom and Gamorrah were destroyed by God the Almighty.

Any true interpretation would agree with it. Only those who are trying to change the meaning of the Bible in order to justify living in sin would disagree with some 8000 years of knowledge of God through His Holy Spirit. And those are not people I will allow to have any influence over myself and my children.

 

[Jesus_N_Cherie]

And yet there is much in Leviticus that christians are not required to follow. To simply say this is so because Jesus replaced these laws is a bit circular if one takes the positions that God’s laws are eternal and unchanging.

Jesus Christ sacrificed Himself, once and for all. So, therefore, the obsolete things are no longer held bound. All commands having to do with our souls are still held bound…Such as the 10 commandments…and all things spoken of in the New Testament. P.S. Homosexuality and fornication are mentioned in the New Testament as a seriously grave sin.

 

[Jesus_N_Cherie]

The Gay Rights Movement silence all opposition using the world “hate.” Anybody who dares to disagree with them is called a hateful bigot. Another tactic is to claim that all who disagree are secretly gay themselves; they say that anybody who “hates” homosexuality must be trying to hide their own same sex attraction. The homosexuals use these tactics to close down any debate. They can’t really disprove arguments against homosexuality, and so they do their best to shatter the reputations of those who oppose them to discredit their opinions.

They had a well thought out plan of attack.

 

[Valke2]

I have no idea who this Richard E. Friedman is. I do know that they have changed many interpretations of the Bible, that are the TRUE interpretations. The translation I offered is from the Latin Vulgate. It is not politically correct…it is TRUTH.

And since the time of Sodom and Gamorrah it has been known by all of God’s people that it was the sin of sodomy…that’s where the word came from…that Sodom and Gamorrah were destroyed by God the Almighty.

Any true interpretation would agree with it. Only those who are trying to change the meaning of the Bible in order to justify living in sin would disagree with some 8000 years of knowledge of God through His Holy Spirit. And those are not people I will allow to have any influence over myself and my children.

IN this you are mistaken. The original Hebrew is quite clear. I agree that the word “sodomy” comes from this Sodom. However, that doesn’t mean it is based on a correct translation.

 

[truagape]

They can’t really disprove arguments against homosexuality, and so they do their best to shatter the reputations of those who oppose them to discredit their opinions.

I, history, and the biblical facts themselves unapologetically disagree with these false assertions without question! In fact, I would be more than willing to “debate”, the inaccuracy of your faulty position in its entirety. And in the name of all that is true, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that when we are through, if you value scripture and the loving God responsible for its truth, you will have no choice but to rethink and ultimately recant your flawed, unbiblical, and yes unloving position.

 

[pnewton]

I, history, and the biblical facts themselves unapologetically disagree with these false assertions without question!

What are you referring to. The post had nothing to do with Scripture. The generalization to an absolute that all these gays attack opposition by throwing out the hate card was too absolute. But the main point is still valid, and has nothing to do with Sacred Scripture. So-called “Hate” laws have been used to silence legitimate theological opinion and the classic position of Christianity on the evil of homosexual acts.

Yes, you too stooped to that tactic by calling him un-loving.

 

[ciara4]

This is really wonderful theoretical , when you don’t have to face directly the consequences of losing your job or other kind of punishments . These are the facts and daily realities in Sweden ( I’ll mention one man of honor who went to jail just for the courage to say public that Homosexuality is a sin . His name is Åke Green .

i hope we are not headed in this direction . this election is a true test to us GOOD VERSES EVIL IN THE END GOOD PREVAILS BLESSED MARY WILL CRUSH THE SERPANT LIBRALs NEED TO GO. THeY DONT SEE WHAT GOES ON IN OTHER COUNTRIES _THIS SHOULD BE A GREAT WARNING SOCIETIES CRUMBLE FROM WITH IN - from immorality - GOD SAVE US

 

[ciara4]

LISTEN - GOD GAVE MAN A WOMEN FOR COMPANIONSHIP NOT A HOMO! WE WILL NEVER SHOW TOLOERANCE FOR PLAIN OLD EVIL. INDOCTRINATION OF CHILDREN into the world of LESBIANS GAYS IS REPUlSIVE AND WILL NOT BE TOLORATED . THESE PEOPLE PROMOTE EVIL THEIR AGENDA IS PURE EVIL _THE INDOCTRINATION OF INOCENT CHILDREN MUST STOP NOW!

ACTION IS NEEDED PLEASE SUPPORT THE AMERICAN FAMILY ASSOCIATION FOR THE GOOD OF MAN KIND and our children

 

[Nickkname]

Homosexuality seems to have been accepted by most people as a normal, alternative lifestyle choice. The media are continually brain-washing people to think that homosexuality is a natural occurance that is no different from heterosexuality.

I have noticed that there are more and more gay related shows on television. In America, you have The Ellen Degeneres Show, in which the host, a well-known lesbian, frequently uses her show as a platform to promote her beliefs concerning gay marriage, gay adoption, and the gay lifestyle in general. The hit show Will and Grace is another example. This show glamourises the homosexual lifestyle and is designed to make people become more accepting of the gay population. Then there are films like A Brokeback Mountain which tells the story of the lifelong romance between two gay men. I am sure you can think of many other examples. It is my belief that the media is responsible for the widespread acceptance of homosexuality.

Yesterday, I watched a show on British television named Gay to Z. The show is about homosexual teenagers and this particular episode presented a day in the life of a proud and openly gay teen. The worst thing about this show is that the topics of conversation were highly explicit; they talked intricately about gay sex and gay relationships. I was absolutely horrified that they would put this show on in the mornings. A show like this would have been unheard of even ten years ago. It was absolutely disgusting! Shows of this nature are responsible for the gay culture that we now have. Homosexuality now has the respectability that it never had in the past.

If the current trend continues, homosexuality will begin to have an equal status with heterosexuality and may even be taught in schools. The morals of our society will decline, and religious people will be accused of hatred for their beliefs regarding homosexuality.

The media is responsible for the widespread acceptance homosexuality now enjoys, and I think Catholics will be persecuted for their beliefs on homosexuality in the future.

I know the demons hate homosexual acts, because of their nature (don’t ask what that means, I just learned it from a number of Priests), but I can’t help but come to realize that they are aiding society in accepting unnatural activities and sins of the flesh, turning the world topsy-tervvy and horribly ugly - all under the disguise of beauty, justice, goodness, and happiness. I wonder what, milleniums from now, society will be like? Will be worst or will it be disgusted by its actions? I fear the former, since for many milleniums now, the world has been rejecting Christianity. When Christianity came, the demons were terrified, and all the world with them: Christianity brought truth, love, joy, mercy, freedom, and much more. The demons didn’t want this, so they began to double their efforts in influencing men, and they mean to turn the world into - dare I say it - a mirror image of Hell.

Yes homosexuality is being forced down our throats, but what do the worldly people care? “Let them have their rights!” the world says. Yet this is the same world that denies rights to the unborn! So one group of people gets rights, but another group dose not? One group gets full rights, but another group dose not even get the fundamental right, the right to life? Is this not “cherry picking” humanity? Is this not putting one group of people over others? Is this not genocide? But that’s not what the world wants to believe, what with its maxims, double standards, and ideologies (such as relativism). No, it wants to believe its doing good or that it alone can give good: It blames “others” for its problems, or, faced with its own guilt, it washes it away with self-righteousness and pride. Such is the case with global warming, among many other issues.

Faced with so much evil, what can we do? Prayer and penance! It seems like nothing, but united with Jesus, through Mary, prayer and penance is powerful: the most powerful weapon in the world and the greatest key - the key to the treasure of the Most Sacred Heart, all full of divine love and mercy - in the universe! So what can we do to repair evil, to reverse the effects of evil, to cleanse evil out of our hearts and the hearts of billions of others? Prayer and penance: Through, with, and in God, we will conquer all evil!

 

[jean8]

Homosexuality seems to have been accepted by most people as a normal, alternative lifestyle choice. The media are continually brain-washing people to think that homosexuality is a natural occurance that is no different from heterosexuality.

I have noticed that there are more and more gay related shows on television. In America, you have The Ellen Degeneres Show, in which the host, a well-known lesbian, frequently uses her show as a platform to promote her beliefs concerning gay marriage, gay adoption, and the gay lifestyle in general. The hit show Will and Grace is another example. This show glamourises the homosexual lifestyle and is designed to make people become more accepting of the gay population. Then there are films like A Brokeback Mountain which tells the story of the lifelong romance between two gay men. I am sure you can think of many other examples. It is my belief that the media is responsible for the widespread acceptance of homosexuality.

Yesterday, I watched a show on British television named Gay to Z. The show is about homosexual teenagers and this particular episode presented a day in the life of a proud and openly gay teen. The worst thing about this show is that the topics of conversation were highly explicit; they talked intricately about gay sex and gay relationships. I was absolutely horrified that they would put this show on in the mornings. A show like this would have been unheard of even ten years ago. It was absolutely disgusting! Shows of this nature are responsible for the gay culture that we now have. Homosexuality now has the respectability that it never had in the past.

If the current trend continues, homosexuality will begin to have an equal status with heterosexuality and may even be taught in schools. The morals of our society will decline, and religious people will be accused of hatred for their beliefs regarding homosexuality.

The media is responsible for the widespread acceptance homosexuality now enjoys, and I think Catholics will be persecuted for their beliefs on homosexuality in the future.

dempsey,
it doesn’t matter what is being said on TV. what matters is what the Bible teaches.
Rom.1:22-32
Rom 1:21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

Rom 1:22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

Rom 1:23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

Rom 1:24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

Rom 1:25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator–who is forever praised. Amen.

Rom 1:26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.

Rom 1:27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Rom 1:28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

Rom 1:29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,

Rom 1:30 slanderers, God‑haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;

Rom 1:31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.

Rom 1:32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve

See also Lev.18:22, 20:13, 1Cor. 6:9-10
what is your opinion now?

God bless,
jean8