Are We Being Forced To Accept Homosexuality?

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truagape said:
Seriously, is this comprehsnsion at its finest? The bible NEVER EQUATED SODOM WITH HOMOSEXUALITY. Jude 7 and even the Catholic Church’s own Jeruslaem Bible confirms this. It is the Bible that is anything but wrong. And I think that you would agree with me that anything contrary to it is.
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Okay, so by your response I am forced to assume that you cannot provide anything for your words. You fail to quote passages, and you have started yelling. I asked for simple things. I do not have a Jerusalem Bible, therefore, unless you give me the words…which I quoted from my Duoya Rheims translation…which is an older translation that the Jerusalem translation…earlier in the thread. Why can you not do the same? And a few pages ago, there were a whole list of other verses given to back up GOD’S laws about the sin of homosexual actions. What have you, in terms of evidence, besides your own words and opinions, to back up your opinions?
 
Jesus_N_Cherie said:
Okay, so by your response I am forced to assume that you cannot provide anything for your words. You fail to quote passages, and you have started yelling. I asked for simple things. I do not have a Jerusalem Bible, therefore, unless you give me the words…which I quoted from my Duoya Rheims translation…which is an older translation that the Jerusalem translation…earlier in the thread. Why can you not do the same? And a few pages ago, there were a whole list of other verses given to back up GOD’S laws about the sin of homosexual actions. What have you, in terms of evidence, besides your own words and opinions, to back up your opinions?
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Perhaps you should make use of the search function and look at most of my posts thusfar. If you do, I think that you will find that I have more than honored your request.
 
truagape said:
To those who read these forums and have studied the facts within scripture about these two cities, your statement above reveals more than just willful ignorance. It shows your perferred prejudice.
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You are absolutely right. But ya know, there is nothing worng with prejudice if it’s moral.👍

But then ignorance, that’s relative, just like the rest of the world spouting relativism.
 
truagape said:
Perhaps you should make use of the search function and look at most of my posts thusfar. If you do, I think that you will find that I have more than honored your request.
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You are the one who is making wild accusations of the wrongness in God’s laws. I have quoted my Bible verse. It is up to you to do the same with yours. You are totally ignoring what God’s Word actually states Genesis 19 and in the long list of other versus which talk of God’s laws against homosexual actions.
 
Jesus_N_Cherie said:
You have presented no evidence to give us a chance to do so.
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I’m tired and will be going to bed soon. I’ll leave you with this: When we continue this discussion show me where the Original Greek or Hebrew ever used the invented word of “sodomite”.
Good Night and I hope you sleep well:sleep:
 
truagape said:
I’m tired and will be going to bed soon. I’ll leave you with this: When we continue this discussion show me where the Original Greek or Hebrew ever used the invented word of “sodomite”.
Good Night and I hope you sleep well:sleep:
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You are dodging. I will not continue the conversation with you until you provide me with your Bible translation. Until you do that, you are showing that you have nothing with which to base your assumptions on…especially as there are a number of other places in the OT and NT where homosexual actions are totally condemned by God.

Obviously, you cannot get around that fact. You cannot even give quotations. That tells me, and most other readers that you have absolutely nothing.

I haven’t asked you to provide anything I haven’t provided from my side of the debate.

I truly hope you come to the acceptance of God’s TRUTH, which He has revealed in Scripture and Tradition through the Roman Catholic Church. And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Do yourself a favor. Read the post in its entirety. And you will see that it is not anything like a lack of love that we feel towards and about people who have homosexual tendencies. But love without TRUTH is not really love.
 
truagape said:
No one is stopping you. Just know that you won’t have the scriptures or the secular authorities in your corner.
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Scripture, yes, and ecclessial authority. I notice that in the last page you have done nothing but to deny th plain meaning of scripture, calling such a reading flawed and cavalier. Yet you offer nothing except denial to support that the reading of Scripture through the last 2000 years has all been an error to the homosexuals of today come along to give us the “right” meaning of scripture. While we are referring back to the Garden of Eden it was there that truagape’s tactic was first used.

“Hath God said?” followed by the liberal nuancing of 180 degrees to “You will not die.” They died.

If there is no homosexual agenda to try and convince us of the acceptability of this particular sin, then why, on a Catholic website, is someone here promoting it? Is not this whole thread a testament to the fact that it is not just a matter between two consenting adults, but rather a matter of making people accept it as normal and not perverse?
 
Jesus_N_Cherie said:
Hello, Buffalo. forgive my lack of understanding. Can you please explain the difference then of how a pluralistic…anything goes morality…society is secular and not anarchy? Thanks in advance.
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Hi Jesus N Cherie,

Pluralistic doesn’t mean “anything goes morality”? It means laws are enacted by the consent of the governed through democracy and the rights of the minority are protected from the tyranny of the majority. Pluralism is the condition in which numerous distinct ethnic, religious, or cultural groups are present and tolerated within a society. It is why Catholicism (a minority religious group) is tolerated?

Best,
Leela
 
Hi pnewton,
pnewton said:
If there is no homosexual agenda to try and convince us of the acceptability of this particular sin, then why, on a Catholic website, is someone here promoting it? Is not this whole thread a testament to the fact that it is not just a matter between two consenting adults, but rather a matter of making people accept it as normal and not perverse?
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Of course homosexuals would like to convince others that homosexuality is acceptable. Is that all you guys have been saying? Just as Christians would like to convince others that Christianity is acceptable?

You like to think that you are being forced to think it is acceptable? How could you be forced to think something?

best,
Leela
 
Leela said:
Of course homosexuals would like to convince others that homosexuality is acceptable. Is that all you guys have been saying?
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So it is not just a private thing between two consenting adults but is also a campaign of ideas. Yes, that is what we have been saying. So can we drop the pretense that this is just a private matter between consenting adults?
 
pnewton said:
So it is not just a private thing between two consenting adults but is also a campaign of ideas. Yes, that is what we have been saying. So can we drop the pretense that this is just a private matter between consenting adults?
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Hi pnewton,

I agree that it is a campaign of ideas as is Catholicism. Are you questing the right that homosexuals or any other group has of promoting their ideas?

best,
Leela
 
Dempsey1919 said:
Watching the shows will help to boost ratings and keep them on the air. However, even if all Christians stopped watching these shows, there would still be a huge segment of society which would continue to do so.

I think complaining to the network is a great idea. Perhaps this would motivate them to think about the kinds of messages they are sending the viewers. Maybe they need to be reminded that they help to shape the morality of the nation in a big way?

In the 1960’s, an English woman named Mary Whitehouse decided to “clean up t.v.” She campaigned tirelessly for three decades and was able to remove many offensive television shows. Whitehouse managed to ensure that television shows did not help to ruin the morals of the nation. Since her retirement and death, the standard of television programming has severely declined. I hope the future brings another individual like Mrs Whitehouse who is able to stand up and fight for good Christian morals over the airwaves. Mary Whitehouse should be an example to all of us. She knew the influence television had on the nation, and she did something about it.
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There is a great need for MORAL REGENERATION!

When I hear reports of drug addicts, I think of parents!

When I hear reports of homosexuality, I think of parents!

When I hear of divorce, I think of parents!

When I hear of teen pregnancy, I think of parents!

When I hear of crime, I think of parents!

When I hear of rape, I think of parents!

I think that Parents and the Family are primary causes. A disfunctional family will result in disfuctional offsprings. This is a great tragedy. If people were closer to God it would make a tremendous difference.

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Leela said:
Hi elts,

Shouldn’t he apologize for Soddom and Gommorah, Ai, and Jericho anyway?

best,
Leela
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I ask you…can you make your heart beat? No. Do you know who it is that controls your heart beat? Obviously you have forgotten. It is God Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth…and of all creatures great and small.

Who are you to demand that God live up to what you want Him to do and be? He created you, not the other way around.

And EVERYTHING the Most Holy Trinity does is PERFECT!!! And He doesn’t need polls to decide what actions He should take. He is ALMIGHTY !!!
 
Leela said:
Hi pnewton,

Of course homosexuals would like to convince others that homosexuality is acceptable. Is that all you guys have been saying? Just as Christians would like to convince others that Christianity is acceptable?

You like to think that you are being forced to think it is acceptable? How could you be forced to think something?

best,
Leela
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As we have posted many times on this thread, they are shoving it down our children’t throats in school!!!
 
Leela said:
Hi pnewton,

I agree that it is a campaign of ideas as is Catholicism. Are you questing the right that homosexuals or any other group has of promoting their ideas?

best,
Leela
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Catholicissm is not allowed to be taught in school. Why should homosexuality be allowed to be taught in school?
 
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