Are "wet dreams" sinful?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Unfinished
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
U

Unfinished

Guest
I asked on the ask an apologist forum and have no recieved a response yet, but I thought I would start a discussion of it here cause I have not seen it asked before.

Since we cannot control our thought process while dreaming, and we certainly cannot control what happens because of the impure dreams, is this sinful?
 
I would venture to say that since dreams are something you cannot control, the answer would be no.
~ Kathy ~
 
CCC 1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: “Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent.”

I don’t see how it can be a mortal sin anyway as you cannot give deliberate consent when you are asleep.
I also can’t see how it would even be a venial sin.
 
40.png
thistle:
CCC 1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: “Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent.”

I don’t see how it can be a mortal sin anyway as you cannot give deliberate consent when you are asleep.
I also can’t see how it would even be a venial sin.
No. It is no way, no how, no, no, no: NOT a sin of any kind.
 
There is no way even the most strict priest would say it is even a venial sin, for all the reasons mentioned above, especially if you don’t even remember the dream and it is a surprise when you wake up and discover it has happened.

What can cause young men more anxiety, though, is the state of half sleep that wet dreams can sometimes happen in. This, too, is not a sin. Again, for the very same reasons.

It is completely normal for men to have erections when they wake up in the morning. Even every morning. As far as your wakefulness allows, just don’t do anything to encourage the erection or ejaculation.

The basic principles are:
  1. You can’t sin accidentally.
  2. You can’t sin in your sleep.
  3. You must be in full possession of your faculties to sin mortally, and when you are in the process of waking up, by definition you are not in full possession of your faculties.
Just don’t do anything to bring on a wet dream, and you will be fine. Here are some suggestions based on my own experience and the experience of other men:
  1. Keep your thoughts pure when you are awake.
  2. Keep your actions pure when you are awake.
  3. Sleep on your side or on your back. Don’t sleep on your stomach. (It’s bad for your back, anyway.)
  4. Especially in times of temptation, sleep with a rosary wrapped around your hand.
  5. If possible, it’s often helpful to use Holy Water before going to bed.
  6. Say three Hail Mary’s every night before going to bed for your own purity and your future wife’s, whoever she may be.
  7. Examine your conscience every night. Ask yourself what you did well that day, what you didn’t do as well as you should have, and what you did wrong. Ask God for forgiveness and make a resolution for the next day.
  8. Try to fall asleep in a state of prayer. Talk to Jesus as you fall asleep. Tell him about your day, and what you plan to do tomorrow. Tell him how much you love him.
If you develop these habits, you will grow in the manly virture of purity, and when you have wet dreams they will not cause you any concern.

Of course, if you remember the dream, don’t dwell on it! If you dwell on it, you are giving consent to impure thoughts in your waking state, and that can be a mortal sin.

Also, dwelling on it can cause scruples. In these dreams you will often find yourself doing things with people that you would never do in real life. You can begin to imagine that these are secret desires and that something must be wrong with you.

NOT!!

Dreams are dreams. Crazy things go on in them, and it’s as simple as that! Don’t give them another thought.

And don’t forget that God created our sexuality, including all the messy stuff, and he’s not shocked by it. He’s the one that “invented” it, after all. It was His idea. Including wet dreams. So when they happen, remember that it’s the way God made you.
 
Dreams are something you can control by meditating on God’s word before bedtime. It is a discipline that takes time to learn.
If you spend most of your time engaged in entertainment of the world, like Tv viewing then you will feed your sin nature. If you spend your time studying and mediating on God’s word, you will reach a point where you say, “wet dreams? I have not had one of those in years.”
 
40.png
AnonymousOne:
There is no way even the most strict priest would say it is even a venial sin, for all the reasons mentioned above, especially if you don’t even remember the dream and it is a surprise when you wake up and discover it has happened.

What can cause young men more anxiety, though, is the state of half sleep that wet dreams can sometimes happen in. This, too, is not a sin. Again, for the very same reasons. …
  1. You must be in full possession of your faculties to sin mortally, and when you are in the process of waking up, by definition you are not in full possession of your faculties.
Just don’t do anything to bring on a wet dream, and you will be fine. …

In these dreams you will often find yourself doing things with people that you would never do in real life. You can begin to imagine that these are secret desires and that something must be wrong with you.

NOT!!

Dreams are dreams. Crazy things go on in them, and it’s as simple as that! Don’t give them another thought.
I just wanted to second this whole post, especially the quoted parts. Great advice, AO!
 
40.png
Unfinished:
I asked on the ask an apologist forum and have no recieved a response yet, but I thought I would start a discussion of it here cause I have not seen it asked before.

Since we cannot control our thought process while dreaming, and we certainly cannot control what happens because of the impure dreams, is this sinful?
Since sin incorporates the aspect of culpability, you cannot be culpable for something beyond your control. I would suggest, however, that you are consciously meditating on lustful desire, since the subconscious often manifests itself in what is dominant in the conscious mind. You may want to counsel with your priest about this.
 
Daniel Marsh:
Dreams are something you can control by meditating on God’s word before bedtime. It is a discipline that takes time to learn.
If you spend most of your time engaged in entertainment of the world, like Tv viewing then you will feed your sin nature. If you spend your time studying and mediating on God’s word, you will reach a point where you say, “wet dreams? I have not had one of those in years.”
What? You mean to tell me that if you “meditate on God’s word” you will not have a wet dream? I guess you have forgot about the biology of all of this. If you are single and remaining chaste, you are going to have a wet dream. It is how our bodies were created by God.
Wet dreams are natural. I have never heard that (if you do not masturbate [which is wrong] or have a wife to have sexual intercourse with) you will not have a noctural emission (aka wet dream) for over a year. C’mon now.
 
Mirror Mirror:
What? You mean to tell me that if you “meditate on God’s word” you will not have a wet dream? I guess you have forgot about the biology of all of this. If you are single and remaining chaste, you are going to have a wet dream. It is how our bodies were created by God.
Wet dreams are natural. I have never heard that (if you do not masturbate [which is wrong] or have a wife to have sexual intercourse with) you will not have a noctural emission (aka wet dream) for over a year. C’mon now.
While it may be unlikely that one will never have a wet dream, it is not impossible. It’s not a do-this-and-x-will-or-will-not happen. I suspect that DM would agree that it would be a special grace from God rather than an example of put your meditation on God’s Word in the slot and automatically out comes sleep sans wet dreams.

Scott
 
Mirror Mirror:
What? You mean to tell me that if you “meditate on God’s word” you will not have a wet dream? I guess you have forgot about the biology of all of this.
It is both biology and psychology – so you are both right. Less sexual content during waking hours=less unconscious nighttime “wet” dreaming (dreaming understood as a function of washing out of our previous day mental activities). Please do not ask me to cite a study regarding the same, I am alluding to common sense and understanding of dreams.
 
Scott Waddell:
While it may be unlikely that one will never have a wet dream, it is not impossible. It’s not a do-this-and-x-will-or-will-not happen. I suspect that DM would agree that it would be a special grace from God rather than an example of put your meditation on God’s Word in the slot and automatically out comes sleep sans wet dreams.

Scott
My only question to saying that it is not impossible is where does the excess sperm and semen go that is built up throughout the days and weeks before?
 
40.png
felra:
It is both biology and psychology – so you are both right. Less sexual content during waking hours=less unconscious nighttime “wet” dreaming (dreaming understood as a function of washing out of our previous day mental activities). Please do not ask me to cite a study regarding the same, I am alluding to common sense and understanding of dreams.
I don’t think that if you have less sexual content running through your head you will not have a wet dream. It is your body’s way of getting rid of the excess sperm and semen that has built up.

That is my thoughts and my common sense approach. As a man, I just have a hard time believing that it just evaporates.
 
Mirror Mirror:
My only question to saying that it is not impossible is where does the excess sperm and semen go that is built up throughout the days and weeks before?
So no celibate person has never gone through life without a wet dream? Evidence?

Scott
 
Mirror Mirror:
…Wet dreams are natural. I have never heard that (if you do not masturbate [which is wrong] or have a wife to have sexual intercourse with) you will not have a noctural emission (aka wet dream) for over a year. C’mon now.
Well, not to be too graphic, but from my own personal experience that appears to be the case.

I recall having a handful (no pun intended) of them at 13 but, with one exception, they disappeared after that.

And I haven’t been meditating for the past 30 years either

But yeah you’re right they’re natural and they happen apparently even to some adults and of course to women as well.
 
Mirror Mirror:
I don’t think that if you have less sexual content running through your head you will not have a wet dream. It is your body’s way of getting rid of the excess sperm and semen that has built up.

That is my thoughts and my common sense approach. As a man, I just have a hard time believing that it just evaporates.
I believe that the body “absorbs” excess sperm in an ongoing process.
 
I asked a similar question on AAA. No matter how vivid the dream and how “conscious” you feel about a “decision” you made in the dream, you are not culpable for any act or resulting climax. This is not just limited to sexual sins- infidelity, murder, etc… all are not sins to dream about as long as you didn’t go to bed with that on your mind for the purpose of dreaming about it.
 
Scott Waddell:
So no celibate person has never gone through life without a wet dream? Evidence?

Scott
Evidence of a person that has? Maybe it is possible, but it does not seem that way to me.

I am basing this all upon my opinion, not any scientific proof. That is all.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top