Are You A Line Jumper?

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I also receive on the tongue after hearing Fr. Groeschel speak about this at length. And I have DEFINITELY seen the grimacing. I travel around alot and I always try to get to mass as often as I can, not just on Sundays, but daily. And I’ve come across this grimacing here and there. I’ve actually not thought about it, though, until now!!! And it is disturbing to think about. But I guess I usually get absorbed into thinking about what I have just received. I think the EM’s just have to do their job!!!
 
If an extraordinary minister was distributing Communion in a truly extraordinary case (not what typically happens here in the U.S. in my experience), I would have no qualms at all receiving from the extraordinary minister, for then the extraordinary minister would be acting in accordance with the Church’s desires.

However, when I don’t perceive a truly extraordinary reason, it seems more fitting to receive from one of the ordinary ministers because that is what the Church desires in the usual case.
 
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Walburga:
I also receive on the tongue after hearing Fr. Groeschel speak about this at length. And I have DEFINITELY seen the grimacing. I travel around alot and I always try to get to mass as often as I can, not just on Sundays, but daily. And I’ve come across this grimacing here and there. I’ve actually not thought about it, though, until now!!! And it is disturbing to think about. But I guess I usually get absorbed into thinking about what I have just received. I think the EM’s just have to do their job!!!
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Right or wrong, whenever I act as an EMHC, I find that I’m just a little more careful and reverent with those few tongue receivers. Right or wrong, I care more, because I feel they care more about the Blessed Sacrament they are receiving. I also feel NO ill feelings for those who line-jump from my line to that of the Priest. How could I? I’ve done it and,after all, I’m just an EXTRAORDINARY minister of Holy Communion. I’m a nobody compared to the Priest.

As far as the EMHC’s at my parish are concerned, I feel they are no worse than those I find when I’m on the ‘road’. EMHC’s are pretty much the same around the country. About the same percentage grimmace or are clumsy when faced with the communicant with hands folded and mouth open.

No Priest or Deacon that I’ve ever received from, whether at home or on the ‘road’, has ever given me that feeling.

I’m not always a line-jumper and I do have preferred EMHC’s. There is this dentist that I’ll hop over to…He’s pretty good, but he’s still no Priest.
 
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cargopilot:
Oh, No! Please don’t say this could ever happen! You’re just kiddin’, right? Please say you’re just kiddin’.

Yeah, you’re just joshin’ me. That couldn’t ever really happen, could it???http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon9.gif
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It is already happeing that there aren’t enough priests in some areas to cover all the parishes, so some have Mass only every other Sunday, or every third Sunday. The Church has given us a liturgy for reception of the Eucharist in those circumstances (it is not a Mass), and if you are going to receive, it will either be from a deaon or a lay person.
 
Ecce Homo:
If an extraordinary minister was distributing Communion in a truly extraordinary case (not what typically happens here in the U.S. in my experience), I would have no qualms at all receiving from the extraordinary minister, for then the extraordinary minister would be acting in accordance with the Church’s desires.

However, when I don’t perceive a truly extraordinary reason, it seems more fitting to receive from one of the ordinary ministers because that is what the Church desires in the usual case.
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Well put! Excellent point and worth repeating!

I love going to Mass, and I am just fine if it took a little longer, especially if it meant fewer or, better yet, NO EMHC’s.http://forums.catholic-questions.or...atholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

I know the Priests need to keep it as close as possible to an hour, as most people can’t wait to get outta’ there, or they just leave right after Communion.http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon9.gif
 
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Walburga:
I also receive on the tongue after hearing Fr. Groeschel speak about this at length. And I have DEFINITELY seen the grimacing. I travel around alot and I always try to get to mass as often as I can, not just on Sundays, but daily. And I’ve come across this grimacing here and there. I’ve actually not thought about it, though, until now!!! And it is disturbing to think about. But I guess I usually get absorbed into thinking about what I have just received. I think the EM’s just have to do their job!!!
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You would perhaps be a little understanding if it was your finger that drew the line of spit from their mouth as you placed the Host on their tongue.

We used to joke about how long a line Father drew, back when I was an altar boy, and that was the only way you could receive.
 
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otm:
It is already happeing that there aren’t enough priests in some areas to cover all the parishes, so some have Mass only every other Sunday, or every third Sunday. The Church has given us a liturgy for reception of the Eucharist in those circumstances (it is not a Mass), and if you are going to receive, it will either be from a deaon or a lay person.
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Oh, No! That’s sooo sad. http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon9.gif

I guess if it happens that way, I’ll just have to adapt. I pray for the time we have more Priests.
 
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otm:
You would perhaps be a little understanding if it was your finger that drew the line of spit from their mouth as you placed the Host on their tongue.

We used to joke about how long a line Father drew, back when I was an altar boy, and that was the only way you could receive.
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As an EMHC, I’ve got no problem with that.

What’s the difference between that and holding hands with your coughing, sneezing neighbor for the Our Father?http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon12.gif
 
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otm:
You would perhaps be a little understanding if it was your finger that drew the line of spit from their mouth as you placed the Host on their tongue.
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I understand why some EMHC grimace, but perhaps for a different reason. I have brought communion to a man who had just had a stroke and the man sat there, copiously drooling. There was no way to give him communion and avoid the drool…it covered the whole front of his body and the floor around him. This is just life. Giving communion on the tongue is just life.

But we are all fallen. This is why we grimace when we ought not. Our emotions do not follow what is true. It is not really the drool itself, I think.
 
I “like” to recieve Communion from the priest but it really doesn’t matter. I also like to recieve from the Bishop or Archbishop if I go to a Mass where they are present. However, I would never “line jump”-to me that is really in the wrong spirit.

However, it seems to me to be playing “holier than thou” by thinking that it is better to receive Communion from the clergy as opposed to a eucharistic minister. If it is the Body and Blood of Our Lord, it is no different if it is from the hands of the Pope or a eucharistic minister.
 
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batteddy:
I voted “no, but I would if I could”. It’s sorta disorderly…and I dont like to bring attention to myself. But I do prefer to recieve from a priest or deacon.

When I recieve from a priest…I recieve on the tongue…

But when I recieve from an EME…I just recieve in the hand. I feel like…if I’m already making one “allowed exception” I might as well make the other…I mean…if it has already touched one pair of unconsecrated hands…what’s the point of mine not touching it?
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Good point - I hadn’t considered that before. I may start doing this. It would eliminate the awkwardness with receiving on the tounge from an EM. However, I would be nervous doing this as I’ve never received in my hand before. :hmmm:
 
You would perhaps be a little understanding if it was your finger that drew the line of spit from their mouth as you placed the Host on their tongue.
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This is where instruction for both communicants and distributors might be helpful.
 
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cargopilot:
As an EMHC, I’ve got no problem with that.

What’s the difference between that and holding hands with your coughing, sneezing neighbor for the Our Father?http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon12.gif
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I am not sure who the word “your” is referring to in your post.

If it is a communicant, it is a non issue, whether they receive in the hand or on the tongue. If it is the one distributing Communion, everyone doing so at our church uses a bit of hand sanitizer just before distributing. And if one of them had a runny nose or was sneazing, hopefully they would have enough good sense not to distribute; but common sense too often is not common…
 
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Jesus4Me:
Good point - I hadn’t considered that before. I may start doing this. It would eliminate the awkwardness with receiving on the tounge from an EM. However, I would be nervous doing this as I’ve never received in my hand before. :hmmm:
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It isn’t rocket science. Palms up, one hand supporting the other; the Eucharist is place in your palm, and you remove the other hand from its position and pick up the Host which is sitting in the palm of your hand and place it in your mouth.

As for worries about dropping it: how often have you dropped something else of similar size when someone gave it to you, and you were paying attention? Most of the droppin occurs because of haste or inattention, neither of which should be occuring at that moment.
 
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TJD:
At my church the Priest and Deacon distribute Christ’s Body and EMHCs distribute Christ’s Blood.

I do wonder why the Deacon doesn’t distribute Christ’s Blood since he is the Minister of the Precious Blood. Any insights out there on this small curiosity of mine?
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You are absolutely right - the rightful role of the deacon in the distribution of Holy Communion is to be the minister of the cup. At Mass my husband is the minister of the cup. The only time he distributes the host is in daily Mass occassionally, when he serves with a priest who is legally blind. The priest cannot see well enough to distribute communion particularly if the communicant wants to receive on the tongue and so my husband does that instead.
 
Deaconswife,

Thanks for the info and thanks for all you give to our church.

Christ’s Peace
 
Awwww, deaconswife, how wonderful!! God bless you, your husband and that dear Priest. This is just another perfect example of why we ought not to ever judge anyone, no one knows what cross another is carrying. Thank you for posting that.
 
My friends, “Eucharistic Ministers” are unfortunately used in most Churches today illicitly.

catholicliturgy.com/index.cfm/FuseAction/DocumentContents/Index/6/SubIndex/92/DocumentIndex/454

here is a link to a document of the Church, written in '97.

in Part II, Article 8. The Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion it states:
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To avoid creating confusion, certain practices are to be avoided and eliminated where such have emerged in particular Churches:
  • extraordinary ministers receiving Holy Communion apart from the other faithful as though concelebrants;…
  • the habitual use of extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion at Mass thus arbitrarily extending the concept of “a great number of the faithful”.*
These two abuses are the most common abuses done in Church today. And I can honestly say that I have *never * been:
a) to a Mass where the EMC’s receive with the rest of the faithful
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b) where EMC’s are not habitually used

this is a HUGE problem! To say that this doesnt matter is folly, for the Church would not have wasted such time to release this document presented above and “Redemptionis Sacramentum”, released in '04, ( which can be found on the Vatican website: vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html ) if the correction of abuses was not important.

I am sorry if this message seems harsh, but there is no real nice way to put it. It is very important that we, the layity and the clergy, are faithful to the Church and its decrees. For if we are disobedient in the Celebration of Mass, what prevents us from being disobedient in other matters, such as Dogmas of the Church?

I would, also, like to add that it is not my intention to make everyone angry at their local Parish Priests. I hope, instead, that you will pray for them and for an end to Liturgical abuses.

Here is some advice on how to deal with Liturgical abuses:
catholicliturgy.com/index.cfm/FuseAction/LawText/Index/6/SubIndex/10/LawIndex/4

And, if you feel so inclined, here is a great article on how to appropriately address Liturgical Abuses to your Parish Priests:
adoremus.org/1295Bruno.html

Now, is it wrong to receive from an illicit EMC? I don’t know… But I know I try my hardest not to.

God bless
 
Hmmmm… its Jesus, no matter who gives it to you. “Jumping lines” only shows you lack understanding of the theology of this Sacrament.
 
  • extraordinary ministers receiving Holy Communion apart from the other faithful as though concelebrants;…
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  • the habitual use of extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion at Mass thus arbitrarily extending the concept of “a great number of the faithful”.
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In my surrounding Churches, after the Priest recieves and when we prepare for Communion, the EMC’s will come up, recieve, take their chalice, then go to their spots. The only difference is that they walk up to the altar since that is where the chalices are… Does that follow the guidelines there and if not, how to remedy?

Then the 2nd one confuses me… But every parish will use EMC’s at all Masses due to our number of Priest… A Parish is lucky to have 2 Priests… Not to mention when they must go and cover for others in the Diocese…

Though I might go to the Parishes and drop off a copy of that article into their mailboxes… Since I don’t think they know of it.

and I line-jump every so often… But not for any of the really given reason… The Priest in my Parish usually has his line finish a lot faster before the EMC’s so… Since I am usually near the back of line, I will switch lines when no one is behind me…
Though we only have 2 lines close together… So line jumping wouldn’t be very noticable near the end.
 
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