Are you prepared for the 3 days & 3 nights of darkness?

[slyboots]

jrabs:

I’m not sure it takes a prophecy to encourage folks to stash away some water and food, but more of prudence in this day and age of terrorism.

A disaster can pop up at any time. Just a few years ago on a beautiful August day, the north east lost electricity resulting from a power grid failure.

And of keeping your soul ready, that makes good sense as well.

That is so true. We live in tornado alley. And at anytime in winter we could have one of our ice storms that knock out power for sometimes days. Most of my friends have a canned food stash and bottled water as well as battery operated radios, lamps, etc.

 

[DreadVandal]

Not sure what forum to put this in. If this is the wrong spot for it, I’d request the staff to move it to a more appropriate forum.

Supposedly, Blessed Anna-Maria Taigi has been referred to as one of the greatest saints of all time by Popes & cardinals. She was praised by Pope Benedict XV in her beatification on May 20, 1920 and she foretold the first two world wars of this century. Eighteen years after her death, her body remained fresh and in a state of perfect preservation as if it had been just buried the day before. ]

She also foretold of an intense period of darkness lasting three days and three nights. Reading her prophecy, chills the bone. Has anyone prepared for this by stocking up on holy water, blessed candles, three days supply of food & water, etc.?

Nope. If God is sovereign, then why should we worry? here is a book you should read, “Abandonment to Divine Providence,” by de Cassade.

And by the way, that stuff (even if coming from a saint) is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. I call it Catholic voodoo. Its like those St. Joseph statue kits that tell you to bury a statue of St. Joseph upside down so your house will sell. Pure idolatry and superstition.

 

[DreadVandal]

thistle:

We are not obliged to believe private revelations, even of saints and I can’t imagine people stocking up their cupboards specifically because of this.

We are already warned by Jesus (Matt 24:44)
that “you also must be prepared, for at an hour you do not expect, the Son of Man will come.”

We prepare by accepting and living all the teachings of the Church (which are the teachings of Jesus).

Amen thistle. The only preparation we need is preparation of the soul. Abandon yourself to God, detach yourself from all created things, and obey the moral law. Do that and you have nothing to fear. This life is but vanity and a passing dream.

 

[LilyM]

Honestly guys, lighten up! You ever heard of a little-known fellow by the name of Nostradamus?

Predicted so many things - some of which appear to have come true, some of which (like the death of the King of France) apparently came true in his own lifetime. Apparently predicted the rise of Hitler and WWII.

Apparently, however, also predicted that Napoleon would WIN the battle of Waterloo (which of course he actually lost big-time). And wrote a whole lot of other stuff that seems to be just plain gibberish.

Just remember that Jesus said ‘NO-ONE knows the day or the hour, not even the Son’ - I hardly think the Father would be telling anyone else all his secrets which he’s kept from Jesus himself, do you?

 

[DreadVandal]

LilyM:

Honestly guys, lighten up! You ever heard of a little-known fellow by the name of Nostradamus?

Predicted so many things - some of which appear to have come true, some of which (like the death of the King of France) apparently came true in his own lifetime. Apparently predicted the rise of Hitler and WWII.

Apparently, however, also predicted that Napoleon would WIN the battle of Waterloo (which of course he actually lost big-time). And wrote a whole lot of other stuff that seems to be just plain gibberish.

Just remember that Jesus said ‘NO-ONE knows the day or the hour, not even the Son’ - I hardly think the Father would be telling anyone else all his secrets which he’s kept from Jesus himself, do you?

Usually the case is that the prophecies are so vaguely worded that they are subject to multiple interpretations. Here, I have a prophecy, “Yea, Lo, hereyea, yea yea, verily, verily, ali babi open seseme blah blah…it shall come to pass in the 22nd century that two nations shall battle and one shall win. The other shall lose. Yea, listeneth to the prophecy.”

 

[Sir_Knight]

LilyM:

Honestly guys, lighten up! You ever heard of a little-known fellow by the name of Nostradamus?

Predicted so many things - some of which appear to have come true, some of which (like the death of the King of France) apparently came true in his own lifetime. Apparently predicted the rise of Hitler and WWII.

Apparently, however, also predicted that Napoleon would WIN the battle of Waterloo (which of course he actually lost big-time). And wrote a whole lot of other stuff that seems to be just plain gibberish.

Just remember that Jesus said ‘NO-ONE knows the day or the hour, not even the Son’ - I hardly think the Father would be telling anyone else all his secrets which he’s kept from Jesus himself, do you?

DreadVandal:

And by the way, that stuff (even if coming from a saint) is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. I call it Catholic voodoo. Its like those St. Joseph statue kits that tell you to bury a statue of St. Joseph upside down so your house will sell. Pure idolatry and superstition.

Does this “gibberish” and “Catholic voodoo” also apply to the three secrets of Fatima? If it does, then how do you account for the fact that it was widely believed by our Popes who are earthly spiritual leaders and who, according to church doctrine, teach us the faith without error?

If it doesn’t apply, then I need to ask why not? Especially given the fact that she was widely praised by Popes as being a great Catholic mystic who’s other prophecies regarding WWI & WWII were accurate?

 

[GoldenArrow]

1 Thess 5: 20 “Do not despise prophetic utterances.” NAB version.

1 Thess 5: 20 “Despise not prophecies.” Douay-Rheims version.

I have heard of this prophecy. It’s been repeated by other people besides Bl. Anna Maria Taigi. I tried to find a good website which referenced the others—but alas—I could not. This web page has a lot of extra jubberish that I don’t recommend, but it is my source:
catholichealing.com/articles/threedaysofdarkness.shtml (Just try to ignore the stuff from the non-approved visionaires).

Exerpts:
"Saint Faustina was given this message by Jesus - you can find it in her diary: “All light in the heavens will be extinguished, and there will be a great darkness over the whole earth. Then the sign of the Cross will be seen in the sky, and from the openings where the hands and feet of the Savior were nailed will come forth great lights which will light up the earth for a period of time. This will take place shortly before the last day.”

"Blessed Mary of Jesus, Crucified (19th Century) (the holy relics of this palestinian nun were in Malta this October 2004): “During a darkness lasting three days the people given to evil will perish so that only one fourth of mankind will survive. The clergy, too, will be greatly reduced in number, as most of them will die in defense of the faith of their country.”

St. Casper(Jasper) Del Bufalo (19th Century): “The death of the impenitent persecutors of the Church will take place during the three days of darkness. He who out lives the darkness and the fear of these three days will think that he is alone on earth, because the whole world will be covered with cadavers.”

(The website I linked says these are approved Catholic Prophecies).

My opinion on the prophecies are:

1. It is something in our future.
2. It may or may not happen in our lifetimes.
3. Should we prepare? That depends. I have candles, extra canned food and water because Homeland Security is recommending it. I also live in a geographically risky area–on the Northern most end of the San Andreas fault–actually directly above it. I have supplies because if there were a big quake here, we’d be cut off. We’re located a fair distance from the I-5 corridor–and therefore, aid.

My advice is—prepare—and then forget about it and live your life like normal. Fear not. And if you do fear, PM me and I’ll send you a picture of my cats for comfort. LOL! (They are cute).

With regards to prophecies and prophets: It is my opinion that at any given time in history, 2% of those claiming to be prophets are true prophets. 98% are false–in my opinion.

God Bless!

 

[DreadVandal]

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Does this “gibberish” and “Catholic voodoo” also apply to the three secrets of Fatima? If it does, then how do you account for the fact that it was widely believed by our Popes who are earthly spiritual leaders and who, according to church doctrine, teach us the faith without error?

If it doesn’t apply, then I need to ask why not? Especially given the fact that she was widely praised by Popes as being a great Catholic mystic who’s other prophecies regarding WWI & WWII were accurate?

Here is the problem: To what do all of these prophecies refer? To literal events? Political events? The three days of darkness: are these literal 24 hour days? When you look at the apocalyptic language of the Bible, it is all symbolic and mostly stands for political events. So, perhaps these prophecies are all saying that sometime in the future, for a short period of time, there will be major political upheaval. But if you look at the New Testament, none of those apocalyptic type scenarios play out. Moons don’t turn into blood, eclipses do occur but not for 3 days. Angels do not fly around in the sky with a giant bowl dishing out plagues. Its all symbolic of the political events that are occuring in the 1st century A.D.

So, you have some very pious, holy people (much holier than I) who have very active imaginations. They imagine they are prophecying and use the language of biblical apocalyptic.

And as far as Fatima goes, I will not say definitively that the blessed Virgin did not appear; because I don’t know. But I have read the text of the 3rd secret and I can see how you can interpret it the way that Pope John Paul II interpreted it. But the 3rd secret is still hopelessly vague I think and I find it amusing that many traditional Catholics still do not think it is fulfilled.

With all due respect to the office of the papacy and those who have held that office; I must say that they are infallible in teaching on matters of faith and morals (defining public doctrine). They are neither impeccable nor immune to error in matters of prudential judgment. That is precisely why no one is obligated to believe that Fatima is true. If believing all of that helps you, then good. But I’ve seen a lot of damage from excessive concern about such things.

 

[contemplative]

The following is the antiphon response to the Canticle of Mary in Wednesday’s lent shorter evening prayer.

As Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of Man spend three days and three night in the heart of the earth.

 

[Sir_Knight]

Well, Jesus did rise from the grave on the third day.

 

[4HisChurch]

YinYangMom:

What I don’t understand is the repopulation and ressurgence of the Church…

everything leading up to that point would indicate the End Times - those prior to Jesus coming for the Final time…

but Jesus doesn’t come…

all the godless are killed…

man returns to live off the land and start anew…

Doesn’t make sense. He said He would not destroy mankind again but rather come once and for all to take everyone up with Him.

In this scenario He’s taking the martyrs and the young but leaving mankind behind to start again…like with Noah…

Something’s off…

Its this type of thing mentioned above that turns me off entirely to these prophesies. As someone else said, I try to keep xtra food in the house because of the prospect of natural disasters and breaches of national security. But the Church, as far as I know has never taught about the 3 days of darkness, or repopulation of the earth.

 

[GoldenArrow]

Here is the problem: To what do all of these prophecies refer? To literal events? Political events? The three days of darkness: are these literal 24 hour days? When you look at the apocalyptic language of the Bible, it is all symbolic and mostly stands for political events.

Very true. Also, in my own opinion, Mystical Literature seems to use many elements of Apocalyptic Literature such as metaphor, fantastic imagery, and symbolism. One could surmise that Mystical Literature should be interpreted in much the same way that Apocalyptic Literature is interpreted.

If the three days of darkness is symbolic then it could symbolize — say — three days of spiritual darkness or a “dark night of the soul” for the Church Militant or — say — some event in the political realm.This is another possiblility.

There are some really GREAT end times dogmas that are elaborated upon in detail in Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Ludwig Ott. He lists, among other things, several key signs that must be fulfilled before the Second Coming. After I have a nap, I’ll post some of them for you.

God Bless!

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

Sir Knight:

Three days of total darkness covering the entire earth is something that I think would have been recorded in the history books if it happened and I don’t recall reading about it. Also, the fact that she accurately foretold of two World Wars which happened a hundred years after her death makes her other propechy somthing that shouldn’t be taken lightly.

Bluntly: Has the Church, on pain of sin, said we must believe this woman’s prophecies, uncorruptable body or not? If not, why do you think that is? What value has all this worry about something that may have already happened, might be an allegory, might be poetic imagery? Keep your jugs of water up, keep candles and matches, keep some MREs or canned goods (and a non-electric opener), keep some holy water, get a good weapon to keep government in line, pray- and live your life as Jesus meant, without worry about the small stuff. 'Cause in the end, it’s all small stuff, if you paid attention to this morning’s Gospel.

As far as the biblical book Revelation (Apocalypse), read Scott Hahn’s book, the Lamb’s Supper.

 

[Unfinished]

Ooooooo but I love talking about the end times. Revelation is one of my favorite books. (Is that weird?)

My mom told me the three days of darkness thing back in the day, and I forgot about it until you guys brought it up here. Very interesting indeed.

We will see what happens. If the sun goes out in the middle of the day, run inside. If it never happens, ask God about it after death.

(Although being stuck on the road and dying to some awful looking demons doesn’t sound like fun. So ugly you die just from looking at them? Probably from thier sulfer breath or something. Someone get those guys a tic-tac.)

Anyone remember those books by a Protestant writer? I forget his name but it was the “This Present Darkness” series It was about spiritual warfare and angels slicing down demons on a different plane than us. Very Protestant book, but the concept was cool.

Adam

 

[GoldenArrow]

These are general Dogmas from Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Ludwig Ott. Pages 485-496. Nihil Obstat. Imprimatur. I’ll break some of them down and elaborate later. Actual dogmatic declarations are in bold–that is–we are required to believe these statements as Catholics:

The Second Coming of Christ

1. Reality of the Second Coming
   At the end of the world Christ will come again in glory to pronounce Judgment (De Fide).
2. Signs of the Second Coming
   a. Preaching of the Gospel to the whole world
   b. The conversion of the Jews
   c. Falling away from the faith.
   d. The appearance of Antichrist (he will be revealed).
   e. Severe tribulations.
3. The time of the Second Coming
   The time of Jesus’ second coming is unknown to men (Sent. certa).

The Resurrection of the Dead

1. Reality of the resurrection
   All the dead will rise again on the last day with their bodies (De Fide).
2. The body before and after the Resurrection
   The dead will rise again with the same bodies as they had on earth. (De fide).
3. Composition of the Body after Its Resurrection
   The bodies of the just will be re-modelled and transfigured to the pattern of the Risen Christ (Sent. certa).
   The bodies of the godless will rise again in incorruption and immortality, but they will not be transfigured (Sent. Certa).

The General Judgment
**Christ, on His second coming, will judge all men. (De fide).
**
The End of the World
The present world will be destroyed on the Last Day (Sent. certa).

Restoration of the World
The present world will be restored on the Last Day (Sent Certa)

 

[GoldenArrow]

As far as method of interpretation of the Book of Revelations (formerly called Book of the Apocalypse) the church has three general categories, all accepted. That is, there seems to be no firmly established dogmatic interpretation of the Book of Revelations, except those dogmas listed above. Any interpretation must not exclude those dogmas. This is an exerpt from Introduction to the Bible by Father John Laux. page 311. Nihil Obstat. Imprimatur.:

“Interpretation. No book of the Bible has given rise to a greater variety of interpretations than the Apocalypse. We can reduce them to three great divisions:
a). The Preterist Interpretation. The upholders of this view maintain that the prophecies of the Apocalypse refer principally to the triumph of Christianity over Judaism and paganism, and have therefore been long since fulfilled.
b). The Historical Interpretation. Those who favor this theory regard Apocalypse as a progressive history of fortunes of the Church from the first century to the end of time.
c). The Futurist Interpretation. The defenders of this view believe that the whole book, excepting the first three chapters, refers principally, if not exclusively, to the events which are to come to past in the days of the Antichrist. Most of the Fathers of the Church favored this interpretation. If not too rigidly pressed, it appears to be the most probable.”

Although being stuck on the road and dying to some awful looking demons doesn’t sound like fun. So ugly you die just from looking at them? Probably from thier sulfer breath or something.

To answer your question: Why will one die when looking upon the blackness?

The three days of darkness are to be an expression of the wrath of God. In the days of Lot, anyone who looked upon the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah died instantly because the fires that destroyed that city were an expression of the wrath of God. Lot’s wife died when she turned back to look upon these fires. It seems reasonable to conclude that the blackness of the three days of darkness would have a similar effect upon any living human.

 

[Sir_Knight]

OutinChgoburbs:

Bluntly: Has the Church, on pain of sin, said we must believe this woman’s prophecies, uncorruptable body or not?

No.

OutinChgoburbs:

If not, why do you think that is?

Because the church’s mession is to teach the gospel of Christ and it does not require the faithful to believe ANY private revelation INCLUDING those at Fatima – which were personally believed by many Popes who, according to our beliefs, are guided by the Holy Spirit of God when it comes to matters of faith.

 

[Edwin1961]

I can’t understand why God would allow the innocent to die if they are outside travelling and the 3 days & 3 nights occurs?

 

[Unfinished]

Edwin1961:

I can’t understand why God would allow the innocent to die if they are outside travelling and the 3 days & 3 nights occurs?

The innocent outside get a one way ticket to Heaven. Doesn’t sound like a bad deal to me

 

[Marilena]

Not sure what forum to put this in. If this is the wrong spot for it, I’d request the staff to move it to a more appropriate forum.

Supposedly, Blessed Anna-Maria Taigi has been referred to as one of the greatest saints of all time by Popes & cardinals. She was praised by Pope Benedict XV in her beatification on May 20, 1920 and she foretold the first two world wars of this century. Eighteen years after her death, her body remained fresh and in a state of perfect preservation as if it had been just buried the day before. ]

She also foretold of an intense period of darkness lasting three days and three nights. Reading her prophecy, chills the bone. Has anyone prepared for this by stocking up on holy water, blessed candles, three days supply of food & water, etc.?

My mother mentioned to me about the 3 days of darkness awhile
back. This is quite a powerful thought provoking article. Thank you for posting this.