Are you willing to pay double or higher taxes for Gov health care

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Are you willing to pay double or higher taxes for Gov single payer health care?
 
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No. My taxes are high enough. I can barely get by.
 
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No.

Medicare already exists.

The VA already exists.

If someone wants single-payer healthcare, they can turn 65 and get it, or they can joined the Armed Services and get it.

But I’m not interested in paying double taxes for anything.
 
But if you have health insurance currently, how is that paid for?

Are you buying a policy or is your employer?

What about the costs of emergency care for the uninsured? Who pays for that?
 
Because the question was, “Are you willing to pay double or higher taxes for x?”

So my answer was, “No, I’m not willing to pay double taxes for anything.”
 
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As my husband and I combined pay around $1500 per month right now in premiums, 54% of our gross combined income, yeah the taxes could NOT be any worse.
 
I’d much rather see other reforms such as more transparent pricing and incentives to individuals maintaining their health.
 
Does it really though? Not many aspects of healthcare are optional enough to affect demand.
 
I guess that is why the cost of insulin is 10 times + higher in the US than in Canada… Oh wait, this proves the opposite…
 
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I guess that is why the cost of insulin is 10 times
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Insulin is a weird one. Since it’s a biologic, instead of a “simple” chemical ther. Are no generic versions yet. It must be temp controlled along the whole supply line. It is either harvested from animals in specific ways (older types) or made by modified microbes (newer). Animal derived types include risks to be managed and certified against (mad cow anyone). Those from microbes would be a different line of microbes than the original and would have to be certified as a “new” drug incurring r&d costs of a new drug, not generic.
 
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I’d much rather see other reforms such as more transparent pricing and incentives to individuals maintaining their health.
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Yes and some sort of reform for malpractice litigation. Some docs pay half their salary for malpractice insurance.
No, I don’t know what the details would be for this.

Also, there’s a lot of waste and spending on whistles-and-bells in pharmaceuticals and prolly in medical device companies.
I worked in pharmaceuticals at one point and the cost for fancy buildings and fancy lunches and fancy amenities all get passed on to the customers.
 
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As a Canadian, my answer is a resounding YES.
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But aren’t you glad though that in fact you don’t pay double or more in taxes. You pay about the same (and that includes your health care).
 
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I ya fancy lunches were the way in the 1985. Get the customer drunk and see how much budget they really had
 
In Canada we pay our premium in our Taxes it is not free as some people say. The only people who get free health care are the unemployed who don"t pay Tax. We will never go bankrupt by costs or be turned away.

I had both my knees replaced within 6 months apart - it was not along wait. Work insurance payed me more than if I was working and all prescriptions were covered by the same work plan .

I will take the Canadian system anytime.
 
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As my husband and I combined pay around $1500 per month right now in premiums, 54% of our gross combined income, yeah the taxes could NOT be any worse.
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Sounds like you aren’t willing/able to pay more for Govt healthcare
 
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NO! NONONONONONO! Because he who pays the piper calls the tune.

My dad was a small-town doctor. Back in the '70s I remember finding him pacing in the living room, and when I asked what was wrong, he said something to the effect that one of his patients wasn’t dying fast enough for the government. He couldn’t say anymore, but by the time I got out of college I found out that under the different government MEDI-XXX plans, the US will pay for a certain number of days in the hospital or in extended nursing care. After that, the person has to be discharged regardless.

I ran into something similar when I worked for a company that handled similar programs for the State of Kansas, and my programming had to include cases where beds were not legally available until 12:01AM, so hospitals and adolescent psychiatric units had to stash the people somewhere until just after midnight when they could be admitted.

And finally, in Great Britain, the courts there have ruled that doctors and nurses – ALL doctors and nurses, not just the ones in the NHS – can be legally forced to provide services (i.e., abortion, sterilization, etc.) that they may find morally objectionable. Since they are providing a public service, they can’t pick and choose which procedures they’ll do. If they find these procedures morally objectionable, the courts have stated that they do not HAVE to choose to be medical providers.
 
I know America doesn’t have public health care. But here in New Zealand excellent free health care is a given as in Britain and most of her other former colonies.

Our conservative party which includes many conservative Catholics like me supports public health care. My country shows low taxes are possible with free public health care.

No offense to Americans but I don’t see why public health care does not already exist.

I am a supporter of President Trump but I have to disagree on this issue.
 
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