Arguments Countering The Rapture Theory

[jimcanova]

Thank you for all your comments and arguments! Facinating! I really appreciate all the books and recommendations. God Bless!

 

[carn]

Hello,

I would appreciate any books, tracts, articles, links, and/or commentaries which argue, point by point, the rapture theory. Thank you and God Bless!

I cannot refer to any arguments and just want to give, that the rapture theory is realy great.

Thats because i took one look at that “pre is a heresy - no you mids are bound to end up in hell - shut up, stop leading so many souls away from God by implying post is wrong” and decided that if God only can forgive me if i am able to select through interpretation of various different texts, some spoken orginally in arameic, but all translated from greek numerous times with slightly changing wording, the correct one of three possible answers and if i select wrong i burn in hell, that then i am toast aynway cause i do not take part in such nonsense and so i am free to check what the reincarnation of satan (aka the Church) these guys hate so much has to say about God and so on.

 

[Church_Militant]

The Rapture? is an article on my blog that might help some of you with this discussion.

 

[John7]

17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

‘caught up’, from greek ‘harpazo’
but harpazo means ‘to snatch’, sorry but there’s no ‘up’ in harpazo

for example the blue in these two verses is from harpazo:
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. (Mat 11:12)

But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep (Joh 10:12)
plus,
ἀέρα in this context doesn’t mean natural air (ie, H2, N2, CO2, etc) it means some spiritual dimension that comes upon them.

again,
‘clouds’ in this context doesn’t mean some cumulonimbus cloud at say 10,000 ft
but the cloud has to do with something that comes out of heaven when eg the Father arrives in Luke 9:

While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud (Luk 9:34)

Peter, Jacob, and John weren’t flying physically into some cumulonimbus and hovering in the physical air, that kind of a scene is what you get out of a Jack Chick tract Do you read Jack Chick tracts Truth-seeking? oops, he be banned