Ark of the Covenant to be unveiled?

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I guess this has become the “hands up who believes such and such biblical artifact is in such and such location”?

I wonder if they were told to keep it, the ark, under wraps for now? opening things up to scientific investigation can have both positive and negative results…

anyway on a side note… I believe Noah’s Ark is the Ararat Anomoly, and yes the CIA did know about it and keep it quiet(more because they didn’t want the Russians to know about their spy activities rather than a fear of “End-Time/Aliens/anti-CIA/fundamentalist Paranoia” nuts spreading “end of the world” panic). I really do after that “Geo-Eye” satellite image showed what it looked like from the Birds eye view.

and I consider myself a skeptic, I believe Oswald did it and did it alone(no concrete evidence has ever supplanted the Warren Commission’s original findings)! and I still think Osama Bin Laden isn’t just a Bush created boogeyman…
 
the whole “The Ethiopians are gonna reveal the Ark” shtick has been going on since the early 90’s. Before the public internet. I’ll believe they do so when I see footage of it coming out of THAT building. (I also expect the cameraman & his/her producer to melt, and then burst into flames, but that’s another matter.)

The Turin shroud has been declared inauthentic but worthy of veneration as an icon. Good enough for me.
 
colliric said:
and I consider myself a skeptic, I believe Oswald did it and did it alone(no concrete evidence has ever supplanted the Warren Commission’s original findings)! and I still think Osama Bin Laden isn’t just a Bush created boogeyman…
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If you think Oswald did it alone with one bullet as the warren commission states, you’re no skeptic. Any basic ballistics course refutes the Warren commission findings simply by applications of base principles of ballistics.

Then again, the guy arrested, shot, and buried in Tx doesn’t seem to be the guy who enlisted in the USMC… Facial structures are too different, ear/eye/nose/mouth/chin relationship is wrong.
 
Aramis said:
If you think Oswald did it alone with one bullet as the warren commission states, you’re no skeptic. Any basic ballistics course refutes the Warren commission findings simply by applications of base principles of ballistics.

Then again, the guy arrested, shot, and buried in Tx doesn’t seem to be the guy who enlisted in the USMC… Facial structures are too different, ear/eye/nose/mouth/chin relationship is wrong.
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This is on the basis solely, or at least primarily on the Zapruder film.

The Zapruder film shows the body moving back and to the left… where as Oswald’s position may(the key word here!) have had the complete opposite effect of pushing the body forward to the Right.

Simply put, It didn’t and under the surrounding circumstances it would have been strange if it did. A Digital Analysis of the film shows that in two frames during initial impact, the entry wound, the body did move forward to the right, ever so slightly. Then what happened was significant, the exit wound blasted a large hole in the front right of Kennedy’s skull, The effect of the exit wound blast clearly pushed Kennedy in the opposite direction, this is coupled with natural muscular reaction that kennedy had… he convulsed. The final remaining factor, and the one often least considered by conspiracy theorists, is the one that probably had the biggest impact on kennedy’s movement… He was in a car moving forward, that happened at the time to be significantly accelerating, and even increases it’s speed(immediately after the shot was heard). As we all know, when a car accelerates significantly passengers are naturally pushed backward.

Back and to the left? yep, but in the situation involved, only when shot from the book depository window… If he had of been shot from the grassy knoll he would have perhaps moved forward and to the right.

Basic principles of ballistics are NOT enough to understand what happened. An advanced understanding of the Physics of the situation, combined with an advanced understanding of Ballastics, and even a little faith, are what is required.

Here is a good site:
jfk-online.com/jfk100sbt.html

Lets not divert this thread… lets return to Topic now.
 
LoL…

I love the history lessons I’m getting on this thread. 🙂

Even if it wasn’t revealed, I still think it served as a good topic to get conversations going and discussions made. I sent this along to some friends to see what all they would say about it… more interested in their reaction to it.

Thanks for the post OP.

And thanks for some great laughs everyone who made funnies. 👍
 
I don’t think exhibiting the Ark as if it is a mere piece of artifact may help.

According to Jewish tradition that the Ark spat out sparks from between the two cherubim, killing pests and burning thorns and briars out of the way of the sons of Israel, the smoke of which as it curled upward sent a sweet fragrance throughout the world, and the nations of the earth exclaimed in wonder and admiration (cf. Legends of the Jews IV, 329). Some interpreted the “fire from the face of the LORD” that struck Nadab and Abihu dead (Leviticus 10:1-2) to come from the Ark itself. Apparently it could also levitate itself:

When the last of the Israelites ascended from the Jordan, the waters returned to their place; as it is said: “And it came to pass, when the priests that bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord were come up out of the midst of the Jordan, and the soles of the priests’ feet were lifted up unto the dry ground, that the waters of Jordan returned unto their place, and went over all its banks, as aforetime.” (Joshua 4:18) Consequently the ark and its bearers and the priests were on one side [of the Jordan] and the Israelites on the other! The ark carried its bearers and passed over [the river]; as it is said: And it came to pass, when all the people were clean passed over, that the ark of the Lord passed over, and the priests, in the presence of the people.

-Talmud Bavli, Sotah 35

In the bed of the Jordan Joshua assembled the people around the Ark. A divine miracle caused the narrow space between its staves to contain the whole concourse. Joshua then proclaimed the conditions under which God would give Palestine to the Israelites, and he added, if these conditions were not accepted, the waters of the Jordan would descend straight upon them. Then they marched through the river. When the people arrived on the further shore, the holy Ark, which had all the while been standing in the bed of the river, set forward of itself, and, dragging the priests after it, overtook the people.

-Louis Ginzberg, The Legends of the Jews IV

The reason why Uzzah is punished, the story continues, is because he attempted to hold the Ark, even when it could support itself and its bearers. He was smitten due to this error or even because he relieved himself in the presence of the Ark (the word shal “error”, is here connected with nashal, “to drop off”). :eek:

Still another tradition says that when David had the Ark brought from the house of Abinadab and carried upon a new cart (2 Sam.6:2-3), the two sons of the latter, driving the cart, were tossed by an invisible agency into the air and flung to the ground again and again, until Ahitophel explained to David that this was owing to the transgression of the Law, which enjoined upon the sons of Kohath to carry the Ark upon their shoulders (cf. Numbers 7:9).

I’ve heard that the guardian at Ethiopia claim that the Ark itself was making its guardians sick - the recent one told of how his eyesight gradually started to fail ever since he was chosen.

And finally, we all know what happened to the Nazis when they attempted to open the Ark. 😉

So, in light of all these, I guess it might be a good idea not to get the Ark into public view, at least for the moment. 🤷 😛


Some say that prototypes for Ark and its cherubim may be the sphinx thrones of the Ancient Near East and the processional carriages of ancient Egypt; after all, the Ark was very much like the portable throne-slash-footstool of God on earth.

The lesson we get from all this is: never relieve yourself in front of the Ark nor offer strange fire before it - and don’t attempt to steal it, or touch it. 😃
 
The news often takes things in English out of context, add to that the possibility of mistranslation and you’re bound to get something wrong! In Graham Hancock’s book “The Sign and the Seal” he said: “In past centuries, the Arc of the Covenant was brought out during important church festivals, to be taken on processions around the town of Axum.”. I think the Ethiopian patriarch probably meant to communicate to the world that the arc will become more visible to the world as it was in former times.

Here’s a link to the story that includes a summary of how Graham Hancock in “The Sign and the Seal” explains how the Ark of the covenant got to Axum Ethiopia:

sacredsites.com/africa/ethiopia/sacred_sites_ethiopia.html

And here’s the quote:
In The Sign and the Seal, Graham Hancock presents a radically different explanation for the Arc’s disappearance. Based on compelling evidence gathered from years of research, he suggests that Jewish priests from Solomon’s temple removed the Arc during the rule of the apostate King Manasseh (687-642 BC). The Arc was then hidden for two hundred years in a Jewish temple on the Egyptian sacred island of Elephantine in the Nile. Next it was taken to Ethiopia, to the island of Tana Kirkos in Lake Tana, where it remained for over 800 years. When the Axumite kingdom converted to Christianity after 331 AD, the Ark of the Covenant was co-opted by the Christian hierarchy and brought from Tana Kirkos to the newly constructed church of St.Mary of Zion in Axum.
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The Arc remained in Axum until the early 1530’s when it was removed to a secret hiding place to protect it from approaching Muslim armies. In 1535, the fanatical Muslim invader, Ahmed Gragn, swept across the Horn of Africa from the Islamic holy city of Harar (in southern Ethiopia) and destroyed the Church of St. Mary of Zion. A hundred years later, with peace restored throughout the empire, the Ark was brought back to Axum. It was installed in a new St. Mary’s church built by King Fasilidas (with Portuguese assistance), immediately adjacent to the ruins of the earlier church. The Arc remained in this church, called Maryam Tsion Cathedral, until1965 when Haile Selassie (said to be the two hundred and twenty-fifth direct-line descendant of Menelik, son of the Queen of Sheba and King Solomon) had it transferred to a more secure chapel, the so-called treasury, ten meters away from the northeast corner of the old church.
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In past centuries, the Arc of the Covenant was brought out during important church festivals, to be taken on processions around the town of Axum. More recently its use in such processions was limited to the festival of Timkat, the major Ethiopian Orthodox celebration that occurs every January. Since the beginning of military conflicts between Ethiopia and its northern neighbor, Eritrea, the Arc has remained securely locked within the treasury. No one but the head priest of the church, not even the president of Ethiopia, is allowed to see the Arc. (But lucky pilgrims, like this author, will occasionally be given water to drink that has flowed over the sacred Arc.)
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I would love to drink of that water!

Most Holy Theotokos save us!
 
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