Army of Mary Cast Out

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I know that we French Canadians are eccentric, but this takes the cake
Army of Mary Cast Out!

Calling it a “very grave situation,” the Vatican has excommunicated members of a controversial Quebec Catholic movement, the Army of Mary, for their heretical beliefs that derive from the writings of Marie-Paule Giguère, an 86-year-old mystic who claims to be a reincarnation of the Virgin Mary…
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The thing that I don’t get is why anyone would take this woman seriously. Is it even possible to be a re-incarnation of someone who never de-incarnated? Mary doesn’t need another body! She still has hers.
Rather than the traditional Catholic Trinity - in which God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are each fully divine and part of a three-part deity - the Army of Mary now speaks of a “quinternity,” including Mary and Mme. Giguère.
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This would be a good thing to share to people who claim that we worship Mary. We don’t worship Mary, those who do get excommunicated!
 
First of, there is no such thing as reincarnation in Catholicism. Anyone who believes in such a thing is not a Catholic but a total whacko !
 
cathgal said:
First of, there is no such thing as reincarnation in Catholicism. Anyone who believes in such a thing is not a Catholic but a total whacko !
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I know. To think you are reincarnated is bad enough. But to be reincarnated as the Virgin Mary?
 
:ehh:

Based on some posts in other parts of this forum, I think one or two of these folks post here now and then.

Mary fully divine?

This mystic, Mme. Giguère, fully divine?

The “Quinternity” instead of the Holy Trinity?

Priests “ordained” by a priest?

Nope, not Catholic.

I hope the excommunication has the desired effect, to let these people know that they need to come back to Holy Mother Church.
 
You know, events like this just show how long suffering our Holy Mother the Church truly is. Folks like this are, to me, so exasparating that my own first impulse would be to just turf them. But the Church went through a lot of steps to try and return these people to Catholic, well, sanity, among other things.

In the end, she did what had to be done, but let no one dare say she shot from the hip, or summarily abandonned these souls to their self-chosen fate.

Blessings,

Gerry

(Holy Quinternery; Holy Doodle!! :hypno: )
 
Keep in mind the “chosen people of God”…those of the “Temple” (God’s “Church” of that time) said the same thing about Jesus…“Are you the Messiah, the son of the living God?”…
The rejected Him in just the same way…Yes we must be careful…yes…cautious? yes…but perhaps the wisdom of Gamaliel is best applied here. “Leave these men alone…If it is of men, it will fall on its own, but if it is of God, you will not be able to stop it. You may even find yourselves opposing God.”.
…such was the wise advice of Rabbi Gamaliel in the book of Acts.
Time will tell if God is with them or not.
Joseph
 
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Time will tell if God is with them or not.
Joseph
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Excuse my asking, but are you suggesting that the Curia and Archbishop may have pronounced the excommunication of a group when “time will tell if God is with them”, implying that they have made a mistake in doing so?

Blessings,

Gerry

PS: Gamaleil did not exercise the Magisterium of the Church.
 
Gamamiel was affirming the possibility that what the Apostles taught was true. There is no such possibility here, as there is no more public revelation like there was in Gamamiel’s time, and the definitive sentence on this issue is that Mary is not equal to the other persons of the Trinity.
 
Gerry_Hunter said:
Excuse my asking, but are you suggesting that the Curia and Archbishop may have pronounced the excommunication of a group when “time will tell if God is with them”, implying that they have made a mistake in doing so?
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This is theoretically possible. In general, I think disciplinary actions such as excommunication are better described as wise or unwise, rather than correct or incorrect. So saying that the Church’s action is mistaken is expressing a view on the wisdom of the action, which may indeed be unwise.

I dug around to find the website, as the websites of groups like this are often entertaining. It’s actually rather circumspect, and nowhere did I find the name of Giguère. It’s not clear whether the Community of the Lady of All Peoples is an umbrella group which happens to include the Army of Mary, or if the Army is divided into several different divisions which don’t technically carry its name. As a result, I’m not sure whether the related groups/divisions have in fact been excommunicated. If I get a chance, I’ll try to research this more over the next several days. Meanwhile, I did find this gem on the site:
At its very foundation, it was specified that “the Army of Mary will be recognized by this single trait: its fidelity to Rome and to the Pope.”
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Also a bit perplexing is this statement:
The goal of the Army of Mary is the sanctification of souls through devotion to the Triple White – the Eucharist, Mary and the Pope
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The manner of the discipline, perhaps, but certainly not the identification and condemnation of their errors.

Gerry
 
The Vatican has declared all members of the Army of Mary excommunicated. Hebert said the excommunication was the first in the diocese’s 165-year history.
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I read about the Army of Mary being excommunated last week. Can’t remember which Catholic site it was in.
 
This is the first that I have heard of any of these people, but, wow, the things people will believe…🤷
 
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