Art inspired by the Novus Ordo

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Rabbititus said:
That odd stained glass window is okay, but I wouldn’t want all of the art in a church to be so ambiguous. It’s nice to have to use your imagination to see things in a blob of glass, but I think all Catholic churches should also have art that sends a definite and clear message to the viewers as well - representational art should be the dominant type.
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I would pretty much agree with that.
 
patrick457 said:
http://www.imway.com/photo1/manila_south/rizal/antipolo/antipolo_church.jpg

(It looked like this then before the Church was renovated 2-3 years ago)

http://k53.pbase.com/u26/uteh/medium/43949770.antipolochurch2.jpg

(Here it is now)

…I don’t know if these ones will count (the Church was already rebuilt in 1954 like this [round church style], after the 17th-Century Church was bombed in WWII)

http://www.antipolocity.com/church1.jpg

http://k41.pbase.com/u26/uteh/medium/43857186.antipolochurch.jpg

(On a side note, the Church above is the Church we go to in the Philippines, Antipolo Cathedral)
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I just noticed some of the pictures in this post became white squares…Here’s where I got them…(Check the stained glass windows [not too clear in these pictures, unfortunately]…At least that’s an upgrade from the original blue and yellow colored windows of the church.)

pbase.com/uteh/image/43857186

pbase.com/uteh/image/43949770

Here’s a sample stained-glass window depicting Our Lady…
 
Rabbititus said:
That odd stained glass window is okay, but I wouldn’t want all of the art in a church to be so ambiguous. It’s nice to have to use your imagination to see things in a blob of glass, but I think all Catholic churches should also have art that sends a definite and clear message to the viewers as well - representational art should be the dominant type.
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I second that. Even those purported ‘apparitions’ of the Saints on sandwiches and railways at least have a discernible shape…
 
JKirkLVNV said:
I don’t particularly care for the above stained glass, but I can tell you, I’ve seen my share of absolutely absurd looking statues in “traditional” settings.

You should see how cheesy the SSPX chapel here in Vegas looks.
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Like what?
 
Missa_Solemnis said:
Like what?
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Cheesy plaster statues very ill painted, garish colors, blond wood (it looks like they got their pews off Protestants who were moving), and really ugly fiddlebacks with matching maniples (I’ve seen ugly gothic polyester panchos, too, but this looked like they whipped it up out of someone’s table cloth). The stained glass wasn’t terrible, but I’ve seen better in small old Protestant country churches.You can get old vestments, etc., on ebay for a very good price, but wow, they must have shopped at “Ugly Ecclesiastical Appointments R’Us.”
 
JKirkLVNV said:
Cheesy plaster statues very ill painted, garish colors, blond wood (it looks like they got their pews off Protestants who were moving), and really ugly fiddlebacks with matching maniples (I’ve seen ugly gothic polyester panchos, too, but this looked like they whipped it up out of someone’s table cloth). The stained glass wasn’t terrible, but I’ve seen better in small old Protestant country churches.You can get old vestments, etc., on ebay for a very good price, but wow, they must have shopped at “Ugly Ecclesiastical Appointments R’Us.”
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Well thats surprising…usually SSPX Churches take their time to make sure the interior is very well done.

But what is MORE surprising is that you were actually in a SSPX chapel JKirk 😛
 
Missa_Solemnis said:
Well thats surprising…usually SSPX Churches take their time to make sure the interior is very well done.

But what is MORE surprising is that you were actually in a SSPX chapel JKirk 😛
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I assure you, I had gone to Mass to meet my obligation elsewhere.
 
Missa_Solemnis said:
Ah okay. It all makes sense now.

Still…it is surprising that you laid foot on such unholy ground.
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Well, I wanted to see. You’re right though, aside from the Mass itself, it was at least heretical, the sermon, anyway.
 
JKirkLVNV said:
Well, I wanted to see. You’re right though, aside from the Mass itself, it was at least heretical, the sermon, anyway.
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Really now? How so?

I highly doubt they went Vatican bashing during the homily.

Assuming the Church wasnt founded the day you attended…Vatican bashing would get old to the regular crowd that attends weekly and its highly unlikely theyd make a homily on it.
 
Missa_Solemnis said:
Really now? How so?

I highly doubt they went Vatican bashing during the homily.

Assuming the Church wasnt founded the day you attended…Vatican bashing would get old to the regular crowd that attends weekly and its highly unlikely theyd make a homily on it.
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The priest called the NO Mass an abomination, twice. That’s enough to anathematize oneself (according to Trent, but 'traditionalists" tend to forget those inconvenient traditions).
 
JKirkLVNV said:
The priest called the NO Mass an abomination, twice. That’s enough to anathematize oneself (according to Trent, but 'traditionalists" tend to forget those inconvenient traditions).
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Hmn…I find the NO an abomination as well.

A valid abomination.

Which is by far much worse than an invalid abomination.

Since an invalid heretical ceremony wouldnt disrespect Our Lord.

But a valid one is a different story…

Anyway if youd like to respond thatd be okay…but I sense we might hijack the thread.
 
Missa_Solemnis said:
Hmn…I find the NO an abomination as well.

A valid abomination.

Which is by far much worse than an invalid abomination.

Since an invalid heretical ceremony wouldnt disrespect Our Lord.

But a valid one is a different story…

Anyway if youd like to respond thatd be okay…but I sense we might hijack the thread.
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The fact that you’re willing to state it so baldly speaks for itself.
 
Missa_Solemnis said:
That JKirk is

…“subjective opinion”

Sound familiar 😃
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You stated quite plainly that you regarded the Pauline Rite as an abomination. That’s not my subjective opinion, anyone can look back a couple of posts and verify it.

Really, they must be skipping over huge chunks of the curriculum in schools these days.
 
LilyM said:
:amen: some people obviously have problems with abstract art that calls on you to exercise your deeper imaginative faculties.
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I agree Lily. Abstract art in Churches is not always my favorite but I believe this is often due to not really understanding it. I am not good at interpreting abstract art. 😦 I find that St. Ignatius Church in Yotsuya that was shown was very intriguing. I would like to understand the windows.
 
I’d love to see a thread on Art history in the church actually. I know an Art history major that is a member on here, I’d love to hear her take on things.
 
LilyM said:
:amen: some people obviously have problems with abstract art that calls on you to exercise your deeper imaginative faculties.
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I dunno all this modern art can be quite post-modernistic/relativist. Its got this whole “it is whatever you want it to be” feel. Maybe some of this art is the cause of (or perhaps fruit of) the widespread dissent?
 
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