Article: Marijuana: Legal Doesn't Mean Right

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Obviously anecdotes like this are no evidence at all. In the US alone, there are close to 50 million users of recreational or medical marijuana, whether rarely or moderately. Canada has had loosely regulated recreational use for decades, and Mexico, well let’s say it’s not a common arrest. I don’t think there are that many numbers of negative folks - not more than the statistical data shows for the general population. Of course, there are also many that use marijuana, drink alcohol, and abuse all kinds of other drugs all at once.
Imo, it would be helpful to find which groups are actively lobbying and fighting to keep it illegal, this should tell you why they do not want it to be legal, Id bet the pharmaceutical industry in heavily involved in the effort to keep it illegal.
 
People who smoke marijuana are going to be under less stress, less aggressive and value peace and love more than non-users. Why don’t researchers include such variables in their studies? Quite often, researchers publish only those findings that support their hypothesis. I can assure you that pot has its positive and negative effects, and studies that focus on one or the other are biased.
Because that is irrelevant. They are basically high on the drug.

Marijuana is a dangerous drug and nobody should say otherwise.
 
Because that is irrelevant. They are basically high on the drug.

Marijuana is a dangerous drug and nobody should say otherwise.
Thank you. I no longer have any desire to try it for pain. Here in Ireland the witch hunt is against codeine. Legally it can be bought in tiny dilutions OTC but you get grilled in public by irate pharmacists… I cringe when I hear this. I get tylex on prescription and avoid the militant pharmacies as they can challenge even that. Make you feel like a junkie…

At my age and in my condition I worry not re addiction and have not increased dosage for years …

The thought of a nation drugged out horrifies.
 
Because that is irrelevant. They are basically high on the drug.
Marijuana is a dangerous drug and nobody should say otherwise.
Agree totally. It leads to other drugs as well. Someone mentioned it makes one “happy”. This is accomplished by shutting down inhibitions in the brain. People who take it regularly become slovenly and indifferent. The active chemical can also lead to psychosis.
 
I agree, its funny though, with all the deaths and problems caused by alcohol, Ive never heard anyone calling for more regulation or restrictions on the industry, but when certain opiates start causing problems, they are so quick to put new laws in place to deal with them, suddenly opiates are demonized, we are told its for our health and safety…well, OK??

Even stranger, the big pharma companies didnt complain one bit when the Govt suddenly clamped down on their big cash cows (oxycodone), that would be like Budweiser not complaining if the Govt brought back prohibition.

Seems like, if there is a large industry that brings in lots of money behind the dangerous product, they are somehow exempt, (alcohol and tobacco)

Its also interesting that the powers that be were to quick to recognize prohibition on alcohol did not work, but they have attempted the very same thing with drugs like marijuana…where is the sense in that?
Very true. I live in California and when full legalization on marijuana was on the ballot a few years ago, the liquor/beer/wine industries put a ton of money into defeating it and used a great deal of scary propaganda to do so. It’s on again this year, so we’ll see.

I suffer with rheumatoid arthritis and because of other health issues and unable to take the newest disease modifying drugs. I’ve thought of trying medical marijuana, which is legal here. But I don’t smoke anything - so would need either a topical or an edible (such as the gummys). Some folks need these alternatives because they can’t or won’t smoke. The edibles aren’t done to appeal to children - they are alternatives for adults. These are available through regulated and licensed dispensaries and are not for street sale. In states with full legalization, they are still off limits for minors - the same way beer is.
 
Because that is irrelevant. They are basically high on the drug.

Marijuana is a dangerous drug and nobody should say otherwise.
Says you. Show me that medical marijuana has only negative effects.
 
Says you. Show me that medical marijuana has only negative effects.
You must be the only person on the planet that does not admit marijuana is a dangerous drug.

By the way this thread is not about medical marijuana.
 
Says you. Show me that medical marijuana has only negative effects.
Exactly. If it’s so dangerous, can someone please show me how many people have overdosed and died on marijuana? That’s right, none.

I used to smoke it, but have stopped since after searching my conscience, I knew I wasn’t doing it for medicinal purposes. But I think saying it is dangerous is really stretching it.
 
You must be the only person on the planet that does not admit marijuana is a dangerous drug.
By the way this thread is not about medical marijuana.
Exactly, what makes a drug is really the dosage. So in controlled situations, opiates can be given for pain like any other medicine. Even too much water can be toxic.
 
Exactly. If it’s so dangerous, can someone please show me how many people have overdosed and died on marijuana? That’s right, none.
I used to smoke it, but have stopped since after searching my conscience, I knew I wasn’t doing it for medicinal purposes. But I think saying it is dangerous is really stretching it.
How about driving under the influence? Has smoking been a factor in causing fatal accidents? This could be checked out. The knife murderer of Japan who recently killed 19 people had a high concentration in his blood. Of course, one could say he was a psychotic to begin with but drugs make a bad condition even worse.
And as for people not “dying” from marijuana, I really don’t know except its unmetabolized substances can cause psychotic states. I really would not want to mess with it.
 
How about driving under the influence? Has smoking been a factor in causing fatal accidents? This could be checked out. The knife murderer of Japan who recently killed 19 people had a high concentration in his blood. Of course, one could say he was a psychotic to begin with but drugs make a bad condition even worse.
And as for people not “dying” from marijuana, I really don’t know except its unmetabolized substances can cause psychotic states. I really would not want to mess with it.
Stoned drivers vs drunk driver fatalities are literally millions to one. Millions.
 
Exactly.** If it’s so dangerous, can someone please show me how many people have overdosed and died on marijuana**? That’s right, none.

I used to smoke it, but have stopped since after searching my conscience, I knew I wasn’t doing it for medicinal purposes. But I think saying it is dangerous is really stretching it.
Overdosing and dying is one matter; what matters is the effect of being drugged on those around you. And how can you ever be sure none have died?
The thought of a nation stoned and not in their right way of thinking is appalling , and even more so that you think it is OK.
 
Overdosing and dying is one matter; what matters is the effect of being drugged on those around you. And how can you ever be sure none have died?
The thought of a nation stoned and not in their right way of thinking is appalling , and even more so that you think it is OK.
But alcohol is okay?

By the way, I no longer smoke pot. I don’t drink or smoke either.
 
But alcohol is okay?

By the way, I no longer smoke pot. I don’t drink or smoke either.
Ah no where did I say that… no it is not and please remember I am in Ireland. No drug is Ok when you are driving. I do not take my codeine based painkillers on days I have to drive suffering for it tonight… but no way.
 
But alcohol is okay?

By the way, I no longer smoke pot. I don’t drink or smoke either.
Is your assertion that you think it hypocritical that alcohol in excess makes one holy whereas pot does not?

Cocaine is not ok either, just because cocaine is “worse” does not make pot a virtuous drug…

Honestly it’s like saying to a judge that you don’t deserve jail for stealing a million dollars because you didn’t kill anyone…
 
Is your assertion that you think it hypocritical that alcohol in excess makes one holy whereas pot does not?

Cocaine is not ok either, just because cocaine is “worse” does not make pot a virtuous drug…

Honestly it’s like saying to a judge that you don’t deserve jail for stealing a million dollars because you didn’t kill anyone…
I never said it was a virtuous drug. If you had read my post, you would see that I had decided, after searching my conscience, that I stopped smoking it. I do believe it has medicinal value. Countless studies have shown this.
 
I never said it was a virtuous drug. If you had read my post, you would see that I had decided, after searching my conscience, that I stopped smoking it. I do believe it has medicinal value. Countless studies have shown this.
My point is that apologists for pot seem to be obsessed with the legality of alcohol.
 
My point is that apologists for pot seem to be obsessed with the legality of alcohol.
And rightfully so as alcohol has destroyed and continues to destroy millions of lives be it through addiction or alcohol related illnesses and most of all drunk driving.

Pot, not so much.
 
And rightfully so as alcohol has destroyed and continues to destroy millions of lives be it through addiction or alcohol related illnesses and most of all drunk driving.

Pot, not so much.
So you are in favor of an alcohol prohibition?
 
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