Article: "What Do Women Really Want - A Husband Or A Career?"

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Allegra said:
Following that logic, no one is really a SAHM unless they have a team of domestics running their household for them while they spend 24/7 playing finger puppets and peek-a-boo. After all, how can you give your children 100% of your attention if you keep running down to change over the laundry or put them in a “gasp” pack-n-play so you can safely slice up carrots. I submit that even when there are other children in the room, kids are getting more attention from their mom when she is supervising the in a playroom than if there are no other kids, but she is folding sock and watering the tomatoes. If I am paying for a childcare provider, it is my expectation that she would be in the room with the children, supervising and interacting with them and not doing chores around the house.
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No.

Doing stuff for your kids only and your house only is not the same as paid work–even if it’s with other kids.
 
It is if the measurement is based on the percentage of attention one is giving their children. There’s no inherent difference in canning tomatoes for profit and canning tomatoes for your own family. Either way, you aren’t giving your kids your full attention. And presuming that the income from the tomatoes isn’t going to your personal mani-pedi fund and is going to be used to support the household, you are doing it for your own family.
 
adgloriam said:
FYI, world class top-50 college in Europe costs an average 1000$ yearly tuition…
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That is an interesting possibility for the future (my kids are eligible for EU passports), but I’m talking about elementary/middle school/high school.
 
Yes, I mentioned it for several reasons also because I guess tuition can be higher for the lower grades in the US than for college in Europe (what a comparison). And those EU passports can save you an insane amount of money (in some EU countries a single great-grandparent being born here is enough to get the passport.) Might turn out to be a useful opportunity in the future.
 
Allegra said:
It is if the measurement is based on the percentage of attention one is giving their children. There’s no inherent difference in canning tomatoes for profit and canning tomatoes for your own family. Either way, you aren’t giving your kids your full attention. And presuming that the income from the tomatoes isn’t going to your personal mani-pedi fund and is going to be used to support the household, you are doing it for your own family.
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Yeah, there is.

SAHM do not have paid employment. Side hustles, MLM, babysitting, online work, freelance etc. They are work from home moms. There IS a difference between just caring for yours and your own and selling things. Time, money and effort all come into play. I can for my children…especially things like apple butter. I’ve been asked to sell it…but I don’t because the time effort isn’t worth it. However, I do freelance and online work which does take my focus away from my home chores and children. I’ve done tutoring…again…extra kids means less time for my children and my house. Claiming that working changes nothing about being a SAHM is just not realistic.

Men work for their families, too. Most don’t go off and spend oodles on themselves. Even my friend whose husband makes 6 figures doesn’t get treats for himself.

The whole premise of this article is that women are being forced to decide between paid employment or child rearing.
 
adgloriam said:
Yes, I mentioned it for several reasons also because I guess tuition can be higher for the lower grades in the US than for college in Europe (what a comparison). And those EU passports can save you an insane amount of money (in some EU countries a single great-grandparent being born here is enough to get the passport.) Might turn out to be a useful opportunity in the future.
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The only thing is that their social structure is very different. Far more in taxes, etc, than in America.
 
Xantippe said:
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The only thing is that their social structure is very different. Far more in taxes, etc, than in America.
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Also, it may or may not be possible to use the educational credentials in the US.
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Oh yes, I forgot about that. I know that when we had foreign exchange students in college they had to be very careful about the classes they took. And visa versa.

And forget international transcripts. In the course of my old job, I worked with young adults whose parents were stationed overseas or expats. It was a hoopla nightmare. Even for Europe. Germany and Spain were the wooooorst. Many things they teach, they do completely differently and it doesn’t line up with the US Carnegie credit system. IMO sometimes their education is “better” but many times it’s “worse” because it’s self-directed hooey of the “underwater basket weaving” sort.
 
Xanthippe_Voorhees said:
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Xantippe:
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Xanthippe_Voorhees:
The only thing is that their social structure is very different. Far more in taxes, etc, than in America.
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Also, it may or may not be possible to use the educational credentials in the US.
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Oh yes, I forgot about that.
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Ladies, please just let me take this rare opportunity to address 2 Xantippes in a single volley…Ok, now I’m happy! This is as close as it gets to playing Socrates 🤣🤣 Sorry, opportunities like this come along once in a lifetime, I just couldn’t resist.

[And I thoroughly enjoy reading your posts 🤣]
 
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