Ashtanga Yoga - Eight Fold Path of Discipline

[Mickey]

Which, as Chrisb suggested, might be related to Sanskrit.

Might?

Not.

 

[Mickey]

I never claimed that Sri Ramanuja, who was a devotee of Krishna, was a devotee of Christ.

Amen.

 

[SedesDomi]

Amen.

Aum.

 

[RebeccaJ]

Aum.

Aum is much more than amen.

 

[Mickey]

Aum.

Umm?

 

[SedesDomi]

Might?

Not.

It’s conceivable that the Afro-Asiatic languages and the Indo-European languages share a common ancestor.

 

[Mickey]

It’s conceivable that the Afro-Asiatic languages and the Indo-European languages share a common ancestor.

Conceivable?

 

[SedesDomi]

Conceivable?

So you’re saying that humans invented languages independently, multiple times?

 

[Daedelus76]

I did a little bit of yoga once upon a time. I have more experience with pranayama and qigong, though. It does do something, definitely. Not just on a physical level but also energetic. I have alot of experience with Buddhist meditation (sitting meditation, walking meditation) and I’ve had mystical experiences- energy or light. The odd thing is, I’ve also had mystical feelings or intuitions in churches I’ve visited, not totally dissimilar to the Buddhist ones. I don’t know what to think of Christianity, I’m an ex-fundamentalist Protestant (I burned out in college and became irreligious). OTOH, I’ve had experiences visiting churches that convinced me there was no truth there, listening to a priest rant superstitious nonsense about Muslims, I just felt something deep down was wrong with that. I don’t like divisive stuff now days. At some point you do have to grow beyond religious triumphalism. I actually wish sometimes I grew up Catholic or Orthodox, but that wasn’t my fate. At my point in my life, I’m more accepting of ambiguity and the fact I’ll never understand everything (at least in this life), and I can tolerate and even appreciate other peoples religious beliefs moreso.

Thomas Merton had a mystical experience standing in front of a giant Buddha statue. I know there are Catholics and Protestants who’d think he was definitely flirting with “evil” because later in his life he explored Buddhism (and “contemplative prayer”), but I’ve heard stories of people who have seen apparitions of him, so, perhaps he’s not in Hell.

As far as I know there is nothing in the Christian tradition like walking meditation? The purpose of walking meditation is to make every step “real”. There’s also “mindful eating”, and actually I’m sure there is a Christian equivalent of that no doubt. And of course, “mindful non-eating”, AKA fasting.

 

[Mickey]

So you’re saying that humans invented languages independently, multiple times?

No. I am saying that you do not have sure evidence–so do not make things up.

 

[SedesDomi]

No. I am saying that you do not have sure evidence–so do not make things up.

So, you reject the Tower of Babel account in Genesis?

 

[Mickey]

So, you reject the Tower of Babel account in Genesis?

No. Yourself?

 

[SedesDomi]

No. Yourself?

Doesn’t the Tower of Babel account indicate that human languages are all related, since they come from one, primal language?

I see the Tower of Babel account as poetically describing true events.

 

[Mickey]

I see the Tower of Babel account as poetically describing true events.

The chapters of Genesis 1-11 are called the “prehistory” of salvation because with little exception, such as that of the righteous Noah, these chapters are almost exclusively the record of sin. They begin with man’s original rebellion against God, and tell of the first act of man’s children as being brotherly murder. They record God’s sadness in creating the world when He “saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of his heart was only evil continually,” and that the earth was “corrupt…'filled with violence … for all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth” (Gen 6:5-12). They end with the symbolic account of the ultimate impudence of men who sought “to make a name for themselves” by building “a tower with its top in the heavens” (Gen 11:4). Through the story of the tower of Babel is shown the prideful arrogance of man which results in the division of the nations and the scattering of men “over the face of all the earth” (Gen 11:9).
oca.org/OCchapter.asp?SID=2&ID=127

Now, unless you have anything more to offer about Ashtanga Yoga, I suppose this thread is finished.

 

[SedesDomi]

The chapters of Genesis 1-11 are called the “prehistory” of salvation because with little exception, such as that of the righteous Noah, these chapters are almost exclusively the record of sin. They begin with man’s original rebellion against God, and tell of the first act of man’s children as being brotherly murder. They record God’s sadness in creating the world when He “saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of his heart was only evil continually,” and that the earth was “corrupt…'filled with violence … for all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth” (Gen 6:5-12). They end with the symbolic account of the ultimate impudence of men who sought “to make a name for themselves” by building “a tower with its top in the heavens” (Gen 11:4). Through the story of the tower of Babel is shown the prideful arrogance of man which results in the division of the nations and the scattering of men “over the face of all the earth” (Gen 11:9).
oca.org/OCchapter.asp?SID=2&ID=127

Now, unless you have anything more to offer about Ashtanga Yoga, I suppose this thread is finished.

I was trying to show how Chrisb’s suggestion that “Aum” (Sanskrit; Indo-European) and “Amen” (Hebrew; Afro-Asiatic) might be related, was not that far-fetched, if we acknowledge (as the Tower of Babel story indicates) that human languages (including Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic) come from the same, ancient language. But if you deny that the Tower of Babel story is correct in that regard, that’s understandable.

 

[Mickey]

I was trying to show how Chrisb’s suggestion that “Aum” (Sanskrit; Indo-European) and “Amen” (Hebrew; Afro-Asiatic) might be related, was not that far-fetched

But it is far-fetched and you have no evidence. Only conjecture.

if we acknowledge (as the Tower of Babel story indicates) that human languages (including Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic) come from the same, ancient language.

The tale of the tower of Babel has nothing to do with the false conclusion of a relationship between the words, “aum” and “amen”.

If you would like to generalize, I suppose you could say that the word “banana” is related to the word “bandanna” because of the Tower of Babel.