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rinnie,

You mentioned you had a son in one of your posts. You might find this discourse on friendship useful. The first section describes friends who are really foes, false friends.
"These four, young householder, should be understood as foes in the guise of friends:
(1) he who appropriates a friend’s possessions,
(2) he who renders lip-service,
(3) he who flatters,
(4) he who brings ruin.

(1) "In four ways, young householder, should one who appropriates be understood as a foe in the guise of a friend:

(i) he appropriates his friend’s wealth,
(ii) he gives little and asks much,
(iii) he does his duty out of fear,
(iv) he associates for his own advantage.

(2) "In four ways, young householder, should one who renders lip-service be understood as a foe in the guise of a friend:

(i) he makes friendly profession as regards the past,
(ii) he makes friendly profession as regards the future,
(iii) he tries to gain one’s favor by empty words,
(iv) when opportunity for service has arisen, he expresses his inability.

(3) "In four ways, young householder, should one who flatters be understood as a foe in the guise of a friend:

(i) he approves of his friend’s evil deeds,
(ii) he disapproves his friend’s good deeds,
(iii) he praises him in his presence,
(iv) he speaks ill of him in his absence.

(4) "In four ways, young householder, should one who brings ruin be understood as a foe in the guise of a friend:

(i) he is a companion in indulging in intoxicants that cause
infatuation and heedlessness,
(ii) he is a companion in sauntering in streets at unseemly hours,
(iii) he is a companion in frequenting theatrical shows,
(iv) he is a companion in indulging in gambling which causes heedlessness."
Thus spoke the Exalted One. And when the Master had thus spoken, he spoke yet again:

The friend who appropriates,
the friend who renders lip-service,
the friend that flatters,
the friend who brings ruin,
these four as enemies the wise behold,
avoid them from afar as paths of peril.
Then the discourse continues describing what makes a true friend.
"These four, young householder, should be understood as warm-hearted friends:

(1) he who is a helpmate,
(2) he who is the same in happiness and sorrow,
(3) he who gives good counsel,
(4) he who sympathises.

(1) "In four ways, young householder, should a helpmate be understood as a warm-hearted friend:

(i) he guards the heedless,
(ii) he protects the wealth of the heedless,
(iii) he becomes a refuge when you are in danger,
(iv) when there are commitments he provides you with double the
supply needed.

(2) "In four ways, young householder, should one who is the same in happiness and sorrow be understood as a warm-hearted friend:

(i) he reveals his secrets,
(ii) he conceals one’s own secrets,
(iii) in misfortune he does not forsake one,
(iv) his life even he sacrifices for one’s sake.

(3) "In four ways, young householder, should one who gives good counsel be understood as a warm-hearted friend:

(i) he restrains one from doing evil,
(ii) he encourages one to do good,
(iii) he informs one of what is unknown to oneself,
(iv) he points out the path to heaven.

(4) "In four ways, young householder, should one who sympathises be understood as a warm-hearted friend:

(i) he does not rejoice in one’s misfortune,
(ii) he rejoices in one’s prosperity,
(iii) he restrains others speaking ill of oneself,
(iv) he praises those who speak well of oneself."
 
When I recite a sutta like Metta or the one to Hungry Ghosts, I feel warmth of heart. I feel energy expanding from my heart out to the world. I don’t feel a god or divine being. God is just a word to me.
Hmm…methinks you sound a bit like Saint Catherine of Genoa and Richard Rolle 😉
“…I have no longer either soul or heart; but my soul and my heart are those of my Beloved. I live no longer, but Christ lives in me. My self is God, nor is any other self known to me except God. Oh Love! can it be that you have called me with so much love, and revealed to me at one view, what no tongue can describe? So long as any one can speak of divine things, enjoy and understand them, remember and desire them, he has not yet arrived in port; yet there are ways and means to guide him hither. Words are wholly inadequate to express my meaning, and I reproach myself for using them. I** would that every one could understand me, and I am sure that if I could breathe on creatures, the fire of love burning within me would inflame them all with divine desire.**…”
- Saint Catherine of Genoa (1447 – 1510), Catholic mystic
“…I cannot tell you how surprised I was the first time I felt my heart begin to warm. It was real warmth, too, not imaginary, and it felt as if it were actually on fire. I was astonished at the way the heat surged up, and how this new sensation brought great and unexpected comfort. I had to keep feeling my breast to make sure there was no physical reason for it! But once I realized that it came entirely from within… I was absolutely delighted, and wanted my love to be even greater…I call it fervour when the mind is truly ablaze with eternal love, and the heart similarly feels itself burning with a love that is not imaginary but real. For a heart set on fire produces a feeling of fiery love. I call it song when already in the soul, burning fervour abounding, the smoothness of eternal praise is taken up and meditation is transformed into song, thought turns into song and the mind lingers in honey-flowing melody; in thrall to sweetest harmony…The soul in whom are met these three things I have been speaking of remains completely impervious…The heat is such that no one can imagine it unless he has experienced its comfort for himself…The nature of love is that it is diffusive, unifying, and transforming. It is diffusive when it flows out and sheds the rays of its goodness not merely on friends and neighbours, but on enemies and strangers as well. It unites because it makes lovers one in deed and will, and draws into one Christ and every holy soul. He who holds on to God is one in spirit with him, not by nature, but by grace… Love has also the power of transforming, for it transforms the lover into his Beloved, and makes him dwell in him. Thus it happens that when the fire of the Holy Spirit really gets hold of the heart it sets it wholly on fire and, so to speak, turns it into flame, leading it into that state in which it is most like God…”
- Richard Rolle (1290–1349), Catholic mystic
Is the feeling you get similar to these Catholic mystics - and the boundless loving-kindness it makes them feel towards all people, even their enemies and strangers?
Eckhart explained this best:
“…When I pray for aught, my prayer goes for naught; when I pray for naught, I pray as I ought. When I am united with the God within which all beings exist whether past, present or future, they are all equally near and equally one; they are all in God and all in me. Then there’s no need to think of Henry or Conrad [or 'tom, d-ick and Harry]…Human beings who love God as they ought and must (whether they would or not) must love their fellow human beings as themselves, rejoicing in their joys as their own joys, and desiring their honour as much as their own honour, and loving a stranger as one of their own…You must have left behind all distinction of person, so that you are as well disposed to a person who is across the sea, whom you never set eyes on, as to the person who is with you and is your close friend. As long as you favour your own person more than that person you have never seen, you are assuredly not right and have never for a single instant looked into this simple ground…That man who is thus established in God’s love must be dead to self…I ask, ‘What is the prayer of a detached heart?’ My answer is that detachment and purity cannot pray, for whoever prays wants God to grant him something, or else wants God to take something from him. But a detached heart desires nothing at all, nor has it anything it wants to get rid of. Therefore it is free of all prayers, or its prayer consists of nothing but being uniform with God. That is all its prayer…Those who pray for anything but God or to do with God, pray wrongly: when I pray for nothing, then I pray rightly, and that prayer is proper and powerful. But if anyone prays for anything else, he is praying to a false God…I never pray so well as when I pray for nothing and for nobody, not for Heinrich or Conrad. Those who pray truly pray to God in truth and spirit, that is to say, in the Holy Spirit…People often say to me, ‘Pray for me’. And I think, ‘Why do you go out? Why do you not stay within yourself and draw on your own treasure? For you have the whole truth in its essence within you.’ That we may thus truly stay within, that we may possess all truth immediately, without distinction, in true blessedness, may God help us…”
- Meister Eckhart (c. 1260 – c. 1327), Catholic Mystic & Dominican priest
And Angelus Silesius says:
"…The deepest prayer
which I could ever say
is that which makes me One
with That to which I pray.
God is such as He is,
I am as I must be.
And yet no two-ness
do I see.
There is nothing
that disturbs your meditation
but your own wandering mind
in its vain agitation.
Give me all Your bounty,
give me eternal bliss -
as long as You withhold yourself
all things I miss.
So far beyond all words.
is He,
I know no other way
than not to speak.
Thus without words
I pray.
In the depth of his Abyss
God is pure contemplation.
The deepest ground
of all that is
dwells in perpetual adoration.
We keep so busy talking,
we are so keen to act
that we forget
that in the heart
lies all we need
untapped, intact.
He who turns the senses
to the Light that is his center
hears what no ear can hear,
sees where no light can enter.
Prayer is neither word nor gesture,
chant nor sound.
It is to be in still communication
with our Ground…"
***- Angelus Silesius (1624 – 1677), German Catholic mystic and poet ***
In my own opinion sister Notself you “pray” in a very similar fashion to these Catholic mystics 😃
 
I’ll jump in here. As a practicing second-generation Buddhist (who has incidentally always has a fascination with Catholicism) I wanted to say that I am really impressed by the genuine, supportive mutually respectful dialog here. It is a precious opportunity to be able to share our heart experience without feeling that we have to defend our respective points of view. I came to this forum for a completely different rather random reason, and I just wanted to say that I appreciate very much the fact that this dialog can take place here. It really speaks well for this community.
I just can’t get past the idea that you believe the universe never had a beginning?

Why do you believe that?
In general, I think that buddhist philosophy and teachings are uninterested in metaphysics to a degree that might be surprising for people from other traditions. Basically, there is a sense where the universe is cyclic, which does actually fit into some modern conceptions of cosmology. But while that figures into a lot of historical teachings and practices, and personally to my own biases about the world, it isn’t really relevant to the basic teachings.

What is relevant is that because of the basic truth of impermanence, everything* must have a birth and a death. This chain of causation is what is called karma, and, and it implies that there must be some other cause for everything that occurs. But again, it’s just not something that in my experience practitoners spend a lot of time worrying about. 🙂 [edit: I’m referring to the cosmological implications here, we are totally interested in the issue of impermanence and karma!]

Also, one could say that there is the possibility of an end to Karma – a point at which all suffering for all beings is exhausted – which would imply an end to the universe. But although achieving that is something that buddhist’s vow to work tirelessly toward, practically speaking it just isn’t going to happen. An interesting paradox there, one of many that is sort of baked into the entire buddhist experience.

*Interestingly there is one exception to that, but I’m not actually sure that earlier buddhist teachings. The basic awake nature of mind – buddha nature – is “unborn”. Buddha nature is the one thing that is permanent and unstained by karma. There is a simple, self-evident reason for this. Without awareness it wouldn’t make sense to talk about a universe. And because that basic nature is permanent, it is unborn for the reasons above.

I know that doesn’t exactly answer your question, but I hope it helps a bit. The only thing that is really knowable is our own experience, so it really is just speculation to have an answer to this.
 
Hmm…methinks you sound a bit like Saint Catherine of Genoa and Richard Rolle 😉

Is the feeling you get similar to these Catholic mystics - and the boundless loving-kindness it makes them feel towards all people, even their enemies and strangers?

In my own opinion sister Notself you “pray” in a very similar fashion to these Catholic mystics 😃
Yes this is exactly how I felt when I was wishing Metta towards my tumor.
"…I cannot tell you how surprised I was the first time I felt my heart begin to warm. It was real warmth, too, not imaginary, and it felt as if it were actually on fire. I was astonished at the way the heat surged up, and how this new sensation brought great and unexpected comfort.
I feel this warmth any time I am focused on Metta towards any being whether human or animal or insect whether friend or strangers or “enemies” .
 
Yes this is exactly how I felt when I was wishing Metta towards my tumor.

I feel this warmth any time I am focused on Metta towards any being whether human or animal or insect whether friend or strangers or “enemies” .
I often feel such a warmth when I am engaged in contemplation as well. It used to be particularly intense, as I said earlier, when I was around 14. I still feel it when I engage in contemplative prayer, and it feels (to me) “euphoric”. I get the feeling most powerfully in my chest, and I feel short of breath but in a pleasant, comforting way and it surges throughout my body.

During the Dark Night, nonetheless, one is purged from all such sense experiences - which can be very shocking, depressing and painful at the time - such as the interior warmth and sweetness, so as to make way for a deeper contemplation beyond all human sense whether physical (warmth, tingles) or mental (as you say discursive thinking, images) and which Meister Eckhart described as “the cessation of all experience” because it is ultimately devoid of feelings, images, modes etc.
 
I’ll jump in here. As a practicing second-generation Buddhist (who has incidentally always has a fascination with Catholicism) I wanted to say that I am really impressed by the genuine, supportive mutually respectful dialog here. It is a precious opportunity to be able to share our heart experience without feeling that we have to defend our respective points of view. I came to this forum for a completely different rather random reason, and I just wanted to say that I appreciate very much the fact that this dialog can take place here. It really speaks well for this community.
Welcom Lodro. Bakmoon and I follow Theravada. rossum follows Mahayana. We need Pure Land and Zen, and we’ll have most of Buddhist thought well covered. Of course we will most likely confuse non Buddhists.

Most of the posts so far about Buddhism are from the Theravada POV. Budddha nature is not part of Theravada understanding.
 
I’ll jump in here. As a practicing second-generation Buddhist (who has incidentally always has a fascination with Catholicism) I wanted to say that I am really impressed by the genuine, supportive mutually respectful dialog here. It is a precious opportunity to be able to share our heart experience without feeling that we have to defend our respective points of view. I came to this forum for a completely different rather random reason, and I just wanted to say that I appreciate very much the fact that this dialog can take place here. It really speaks well for this community.

In general, I think that buddhist philosophy and teachings are uninterested in metaphysics to a degree that might be surprising for people from other traditions. Basically, there is a sense where the universe is cyclic, which does actually fit into some modern conceptions of cosmology. But while that figures into a lot of historical teachings and practices, and personally to my own biases about the world, it isn’t really relevant to the basic teachings.

What is relevant is that because of the basic truth of impermanence, everything* must have a birth and a death. This chain of causation is what is called karma, and, and it implies that there must be some other cause for everything that occurs. But again, it’s just not something that in my experience practitoners spend a lot of time worrying about. 🙂 [edit: I’m referring to the cosmological implications here, we are totally interested in the issue of impermanence and karma!]

Also, one could say that there is the possibility of an end to Karma – a point at which all suffering for all beings is exhausted – which would imply an end to the universe. But although achieving that is something that buddhist’s vow to work tirelessly toward, practically speaking it just isn’t going to happen. An interesting paradox there, one of many that is sort of baked into the entire buddhist experience.

*Interestingly there is one exception to that, but I’m not actually sure that earlier buddhist teachings. The basic awake nature of mind – buddha nature – is “unborn”. Buddha nature is the one thing that is permanent and unstained by karma. There is a simple, self-evident reason for this. Without awareness it wouldn’t make sense to talk about a universe. And because that basic nature is permanent, it is unborn for the reasons above.

I know that doesn’t exactly answer your question, but I hope it helps a bit. The only thing that is really knowable is our own experience, so it really is just speculation to have an answer to this.
Thanks for your detailed answer. 🙂

Why the lack of interest in metaphysics and the workings of the universe etc. What is the focus of living as a Buddhist? What is the meaning of life as a Buddhist?

The meaning of life for a Catholic is to imitate Christ so what is it for a Buddhist?
 
Welcom Lodro. Bakmoon and I follow Theravada. rossum follows Mahayana. We need Pure Land and Zen, and we’ll have most of Buddhist thought well covered. Of course we will most likely confuse non Buddhists.

Most of the posts so far about Buddhism are from the Theravada POV. Budddha nature is not part of Theravada understanding.
It would be so awesome if we had Pure Land and Zen Buddhists as well 👍
 
I’ll jump in here. As a practicing second-generation Buddhist (who has incidentally always has a fascination with Catholicism) I wanted to say that I am really impressed by the genuine, supportive mutually respectful dialog here. It is a precious opportunity to be able to share our heart experience without feeling that we have to defend our respective points of view. I came to this forum for a completely different rather random reason, and I just wanted to say that I appreciate very much the fact that this dialog can take place here. It really speaks well for this community.
Welcome to the forum brother/sister Lodro and to the thread! 👍

I am thrilled to have you with us!

I have always admired his holiness the Dalai Lama. I have various books written by him, including his most recent one on “Secular Ethics” and a morality which transcends religion. It was an utterly riveting read.

He is a man of such profound depth and wisdom, and he has endured very much in his life (Ie exile from Tibet).

Tibetan Buddhism has always held an “allure” for me, because of its fascinating hierarchical structure, its esoteric teachings, rituals, mandalas etc.
 
rinnie,

You mentioned you had a son in one of your posts. You might find this discourse on friendship useful. The first section describes friends who are really foes, false friends.

Then the discourse continues describing what makes a true friend.
This is truth, thats for sure. My Mom told me one time if you get ONE true friend in this life you hit the jackpot.

I do indeed have a very close friend and I am very lucky.

I have millions of friends but very few true friends. Sometimes it surprises me to find out also, people who I believed were not my true friends actually are. That is a very plesant surprise.

You know the saying a friend in need is a friend indeed!!
 
This is truth, thats for sure. My Mom told me one time if you get ONE true friend in this life you hit the jackpot.

I do indeed have a very close friend and I am very lucky.

I have millions of friends but very few true friends. Sometimes it surprises me to find out also, people who I believed were not my true friends actually are. That is a very plesant surprise.

You know the saying a friend in need is a friend indeed!!
👍
 
Now from what I have read on the internet on Metta. Med you cannot use this on someone you are sexually attracted to, or the dead:eek: Okay now if this info. is true. Why Not?
Metta meditation isn’t really forbidden in those cases, just discouraged for practical reasons. If you use it on someone you are attracted to, the feelings of Metta can transform accidental into feelings of sexual attraction, and if you do it based on a dead person, that person has already moved on, and so it can lead to grief and pining for what is lost.

If these aren’t concerns for a non-Buddhist practitioner, then it shouldn’t be a problem, especially if you are using that rewrite of the Metta sutta as a prayer, because then even though you are saying it on behalf of someone, you are focused on God, which isn’t an object which leads to either of these things anyways.
 
When I recite a sutta like Metta or the one to Hungry Ghosts, I feel warmth of heart. I feel energy expanding from my heart out to the world. I don’t feel a god or divine being. God is just a word to me.

People who have been caught up in greed, gossip, anger…those who have led less than exemplary lives but have done nothing seriously unskillful go to the realm of Hungry Ghosts. The were caught up in sensual pleasure and greed in their human life so the end up continuously hungry in their next life. However, they don’t wander around scaring people like Halloween ghosts.😉
It makes me so sad to hear you say that about God.

Alot of what you describe sounds alot like heaven and hell, Do you not agree?

When I feel angry or afraid or any negative feeling at all, I do not truly have to do any meditation at all. Many people who have know me from these threads have heard me say this but this is what my Dad taught me.

He told me all anger, fear, anxiety, hate, Jealousy etc comes from the devil. He said when you are having a very bad day, or are afraid to say in the name of Jesus Christ satan get away from me. He said to repeat this 3 times.

And it has never failed me. Within moments the anxiety, fear, anger leaves me. And then the peace and Love and Hope of Christ enters into my soul, and then I know that although it is not going to happen that second, everything is going to be alright.

I have learned as Christ taught me to live for today, forget yesterday you cannot change that, and to not worry about tommorow it may never come.

Live for the moment and live for Christ. For he is the past present and future all wrapped up in one.
 
What is the hungry ghosts?
It is a possible rebirth. It is a state of constant wanting and thirsting for things and yet never having them. Just as hell can be seen as the manifestation of hatred and anger turned inwards on one’s self in Buddhism, so too is the hungry ghost form of rebirth greed and lust turned inward on one’s self.
 
Metta meditation isn’t really forbidden in those cases, just discouraged for practical reasons. If you use it on someone you are attracted to, the feelings of Metta can transform accidental into feelings of sexual attraction, and if you do it based on a dead person, that person has already moved on, and so it can lead to grief and pining for what is lost.

If these aren’t concerns for a non-Buddhist practitioner, then it shouldn’t be a problem, especially if you are using that rewrite of the Metta sutta as a prayer, because then even though you are saying it on behalf of someone, you are focused on God, which isn’t an object which leads to either of these things anyways.
I am a little confused here, what kind of feelings does the Metta claim it can transform?
 
Welcom Lodro. Bakmoon and I follow Theravada. rossum follows Mahayana. We need Pure Land and Zen, and we’ll have most of Buddhist thought well covered. Of course we will most likely confuse non Buddhists.
Probably unavoidable, given how often we confuse ourselves. 🙂 I have learned a lot about the fundamental teachings by reading your posts. That is an important part of study and one that I think vajrayana students including me often neglect, very much at our peril.
Most of the posts so far about Buddhism are from the Theravada POV. Budddha nature is not part of Theravada understanding.
That’s what I remembered, but I didn’t want to speak for other traditions. The important thing in all of these cases is that “all dharma agrees at one point”. The experience of complete wakefulness is the same, as is the understanding that ego is the culprit for all of our dissatisfaction. I think everything else is simply exploring the implications of those basic truths and how we can work with those most skillfully.
Thanks for your detailed answer. 🙂

Why the lack of interest in metaphysics and the workings of the universe etc.
I think for the very simple reason that it doesn’t really inform the path. All of Buddhist practice and study is single-mindly focussed on ending ego-clinging. That’s not at all to say that there hasn’t been a lot of Buddhist scholarship around this area. Personally as a scientist I am very interested in the workings of the universe, though I think Physicists and Cosmologists are ultimately building castles in the sky. I don’t believe that there is a single answer to the question “how does the universe work?”
What is the focus of living as a Buddhist? What is the meaning of life as a Buddhist?
The meaning of life for a Catholic is to imitate Christ so what is it for a Buddhist?
Wow. That’s the big one. And it’s actually pretty problematic, as almost any answer will get you more questions. For example, what do you mean when you say “to imitate Christ”? What would that entail? I mean, could we say that it would mean treating other people with perfect compassion, love and understanding, or are there other aspects? (Perhaps what we should really have is an “Ask A Catholic” topic. 🙂

One way to put the goal of a Buddhist practitioner is “to become the Buddha”. There are many Buddhas; the actual corporal Buddha Shakyamuni, but depending on the tradition Buddha has many manifestations. And again from a Mahayan point of view, we all have Buddha Nature as part of our essential make up, so saying this is merely saying that you wish to uncover your true nature.

So I guess that is similar, though my very limited understanding of Catholic tradition is that to say that you actually wanted to become Christ would be both absurd, because there is only one, and very suspicious, because it would imply taking on the attributes of God that a mortal being could not posses?

The activity of a Buddhist practitioner is to do everything we can to end suffering, both for ourselves but in the bigger picture for all sentient beings. Assumed in that is that we have to deal with our own ego-clinging before we have much of being of benefit to anyone else.

But this becomes an open question with no easy answers when it comes down to actual life experience. Should it be happiness? But is it really possible to be happy all of the time, and what would that mean anyway?

One of my most revered teachers had a very interesting answer for this question, which I love:

“Communication”

The path itself is the goal and that involves at heart interacting with other sentient beings so that we can all awaken. I will stop making this caveat now, but it should be obvious that I am speaking from my own tradition. Other Buddhists may have different takes on all of this. For one thing, Vajrayana teachings emphasize the very challenging and interesting point that you can’t actually have a perfect situation. We say that Samsara and Nirvana are inseparable. Without confusion, you can’t have wakefulness.

As notself implies, this is likely to be as confusing as it is enlightening. 😃
 
I just can’t get past the idea that you believe the universe never had a beginning?

Why do you believe that?
It is mentioned in the ancient commentaries that the universe undergoes an infinite series of expansions and contractions, and is boundless in the past and in the future. The Buddha is (to my knowledge, I don’t have a hard copy of the scriptures to look it up) to have said that the past of the universe is indeed boundless as well. There is also no logical reason why the universe needs an ultimate beginning (one that I have seen, anyways), either, so I don’t see the big deal.

But can it be demonstrated that as you said: “if the universe had no beginning it never had a past?” This doesn’t seem to logically follow to me.
 
It makes me so sad to hear you say that about God.

Alot of what you describe sounds alot like heaven and hell, Do you not agree?

When I feel angry or afraid or any negative feeling at all, I do not truly have to do any meditation at all. Many people who have know me from these threads have heard me say this but this is what my Dad taught me.

He told me all anger, fear, anxiety, hate, Jealousy etc comes from the devil. He said when you are having a very bad day, or are afraid to say in the name of Jesus Christ satan get away from me. He said to repeat this 3 times.

And it has never failed me. Within moments the anxiety, fear, anger leaves me. And then the peace and Love and Hope of Christ enters into my soul, and then I know that although it is not going to happen that second, everything is going to be alright.

I have learned as Christ taught me to live for today, forget yesterday you cannot change that, and to not worry about tommorow it may never come.

Live for the moment and live for Christ. For he is the past present and future all wrapped up in one.
Your prayer for peace, love and hope through Jesus is perfect for you. And, I agree that the present moment is the one that counts.
Let one not trace back the past
Or yearn for the future-yet-to-come.
That which is past is left behind
Unattained is the “yet-to-come.”
But that which is present he discerns —
With insight as and when it comes.
The Immovable — the-non-irritable.
In that state should the wise one grow… Bhaddekaratta Sutta
 
It is a possible rebirth. It is a state of constant wanting and thirsting for things and yet never having them. Just as hell can be seen as the manifestation of hatred and anger turned inwards on one’s self in Buddhism, so too is the hungry ghost form of rebirth greed and lust turned inward on one’s self.
So anotherwards you guys believe that when you are reincarnated if you left evil, you come back and get another run, but are still evil then? So its just history repeating itself?
 
Is the feeling you get similar to these Catholic mystics - and the boundless loving-kindness it makes them feel towards all people, even their enemies and strangers?
You got it right. That is the definition of true Metta, the desire for the happiness and well being of all people and creatures, regardless of who or what they are.
In my own opinion sister Notself you “pray” in a very similar fashion to these Catholic mystics 😃
That sounds sensible to me. The only difference is that prayer is directed at God, or some other entity, whereas the Metta meditation is simply giving words to an aspiration.
 
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