Ask about Islam round 3!

[jakasaki]

MUHAMMAD: taught formalized prayer ritual: (quotes are from Bukhari, Vol. 1)

488 - passing in front of a praying person annuls his prayer

489 - it’s a sin to pass in front of someone while they’re praying

660 - don’t raise from prayer before the Imam {Muslim cleric leading the formal, ritualized prayers), or God will turn your face into a donkey’s face

685 - if the prayer rows (of men) aren’t straight, God will alter your faces

690 - if the prayer rows aren’t straight, the prayer is not good

717 - if you look up during prayer, you’ll lose your eyesight

759 - if you don’t perform the bowing perfectly, your prayers are not accepted

I’m sorry - I thought I knew something about islam, but this one is… ummmm… how should I put it… ummmm…

 

[sedonaman]

I wonder if anyone tried looking up to see if they will lose their eyesight, or to raise before the imam to see if they turn into a donkey.

No, but passing gas is another invalidator. I read another Muslim website that claimed even if you accidentally smelled or heard someone else’s gas, your prayer would be invalidated.

 

[MugenOne]

Bukhari:V1B4N137 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The prayer of a person who does Hadath (passes urine, stool or wind) is not accepted till he performs ablution.’”

If you need comic relief, just read Islamic literature.

No, but passing gas is another invalidator. I read another Muslim website that claimed even if you accidentally smelled or heard someone else’s gas, your prayer would be invalidated.

 

[R_not]

No, but passing gas is another invalidator. I read another Muslim website that claimed even if you accidentally smelled or heard someone else’s gas, your prayer would be invalidated.

 

[R_not]

660 - don’t raise from prayer before the Imam {Muslim cleric leading the formal, ritualized prayers), or God will turn your face into a donkey’s face

OH!OH! I think that this one is true!

http://www.jihadwatch.org/Samira.jpg

(this is the woman who had women raped so they would be suicide bombers and escape the shame that are placed on the women)

 

[MugenOne]

Tabari IX:113 “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”

Tabari I:280 “Allah said, ‘It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.’ Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid.”

 

[sedonaman]

If you need comic relief, just read Islamic literature.

As I asked before [and never got an answer], how does quoting Islamic foundational texts constitute “abusing” Mohammed?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

if you accidentally smelled or heard someone else’s gas, your prayer would be invalidated.

nuh

 

[Muslim_Woman]

** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

Valentine’s Day From an Islamic Perspective

…Islam does recognize happy occasions that bring people closer to one another, and add spice to their lives. However, Islam goes against blindly imitating the West regarding a special occasion such as Valentine’s Day.

Hence, commemorating that special day known as the Valentine’s Day is an innovation or bid`ah that has no religious backing. Every innovation of that kind is rejected, as far as Islam is concerned. Islam requires all Muslims to love one another all over the whole year, and reducing the whole year to a single day is totally rejected.

Hence, we Muslims ought not to follow in the footsteps of such innovations and superstitions that are common in what is known as the Valentine’s Day. No doubt that there are many irreligious practices that occur on that day, and those practices are capable of dissuading people from the true meanings of love and altruism to the extent that the celebration is reduced to a moral decline.

Related Questions

• Falling in Love: Allowed in Islam?
• Islam’s Stance on Love and Marriage
• Mutual Expression of Love Between the Spouses

Allah Almighty knows best.

islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503544946

 

[sedonaman]

Valentine’s Day From an Islamic Perspective

… Islam goes against blindly imitating the West regarding a special occasion such as Valentine’s Day.
Hence, commemorating that special day known as the Valentine’s Day is an innovation or bid`ah that has no religious backing. Every innovation of that kind is rejected, as far as Islam is concerned.

Some salient observations here, among them:

Islam is Manichaean, i.e., if it isn’t Islam or doesn’t have Islamic religious backing, it is evil.

Islam requires all Muslims to love one another all over the whole year, and reducing the whole year to a single day is totally rejected.
Islam requires all Muslims to love one another …

Note that their non-Muslim neighbors are not included *.

Hence, we Muslims ought not to follow in the footsteps of such innovations and superstitions that are common in what is known as the Valentine’s Day. No doubt that there are many irreligious practices that occur on that day, and those practices are capable of dissuading people from the true meanings of love and altruism to the extent that the celebration is reduced to a moral decline.

Here again is the “it’s-Islam-or-it’s-evil” notion. If it doesn’t promote Islam, it leads to “moral decline”.

Related Questions:

Is St. Valentine a real saint?

If Islam is against imitating the West, is it sinful for an Islamic student to attend a university in the West, that has no Islamic religious backing, instead of going to an Islamic university in his own country?

Mohammed never made a phone call. Is making a phone call considered evil by Islam? Why or why not?

How did you understand my questions without your mind interpreting them?*

 

[Jay53]

I have another question about Islam - hopefully this will generate answers better than my last one.

In reading about Islam’s aversion to pictures, I came across this hadith (I think that’s what it is as opposed to a verse from the Quran.)

Volume 7, Book 72, Number 843:
Narrated Salim’s father:

Once Gabriel promised to visit the Prophet but he delayed and the Prophet got worried about that. At last he came out and found Gabriel and complained to him of his grief (for his delay). Gabriel said to him, “We do not enter a place in which there is a pictures or a dog.”

And I’ve also discovered that Islam forbids owning dogs as pets and that some dogs (i.e. black dogs) are evil.

My question is then, what does Islam view as God’s purpose in creating dogs and why did he create a creature that even the angels are afraid to be near? Maybe when God created dogs they were good, but then corrupted by Satan so that they are all now evil? How does this reconcile with the reality of the intelligence of dogs and the benefits they can provide as in seeing-eye dogs, service dogs (provide comfort to sick and elderly people), and search and rescue dogs?

Although - this just dawned on me - dogs have a very uncanny sense of being able to judge the character of a person. Perhaps, “Gabriel” knew that the dog would be able to sense his evil and therefore would not enter the house.

 

[sedonaman]

I have another question about Islam - hopefully this will generate answers better than my last one.

LMAO!!

 

[Muslim_Woman]

** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

I have another question … Perhaps, “Gabriel” knew that the dog would be able to sense his evil and therefore would not enter the house.

If you think you know the answer , why ask questions ?

 

[Jay53]

** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

If you think you know the answer , why ask questions ?

Is that the answer?
That was just my thinking out loud - you can’t be saying that’s correct - that would contradict everything you believe in!

 

[jakasaki]

DOGS STOP THE ANGELS

From Bukhari Vol. 4, #448

Narrated Abu Talha: “I heard Allah’s Apostle saying; “Angels (of Mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature (a human being or an animal).””

From Bukhari Vol. 7, #843

Narrated Salim’s father: "Once Gabriel promised to visit the Prophet but he delayed and the Prophet got worried about that.

At last he came out and found Gabriel and complained to him of his grief (for his delay). Gabriel said to him, “We do not enter a place in which there is a picture or a dog.”"

From Muslim, #5276:

Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger as saying: Angels do not accompany the travelers who have with them a dog and a bell.

From Muslim, #5279:

Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger as saying: “The bell is the musical instrument of Satan.”

None of the statements regarding dogs are found in the Quran but they abound in the various collections of traditions (hadith).

These traditions are a primary foundation of Islamic theology and are the basis of many Islamic laws. They render dogs as “impure” and worse.

Per Muhammad’s orders most dogs were to be killed and all dogs of a specific color (black) had to be killed.

Muhammad claimed to be a prophet of God and as such his word was to be obeyed.

With the teeth of Islam biting worldwide it is vital that Muhammad’s teachings be scrutinized to determine if he were a nut or a prophet.

KILL THE DOGS

**From Bukhari Vol. 4, #540

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah’s Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed.

From Abu Dawud #2839

Abd Allah B. Mughaffal reported the apostle of Allah as saying: Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one**.

The Hadith’s note for #2839 says, "The prophet did not order the killing of all the dogs, for some are to be retained for hunting and watching. He ordered to kill the jet black ones. They might be more mischievous among them.

From Muslim #3814

Ibn Mughaffal reported: Allah’s messenger ordered the killing of dogs and then said, "what is the trouble with them (the people of Medina? How dogs are nuisances to them (the citizens of Medina)? He then permitted keeping of dogs for hunting and (the protection of) herds. …[and for] for the protection of cultivated land.

From Muslim #Number 055

Ibn Mughaffal reported: The Messenger of Allah ordered killing of the dogs, and then said: What about them, i. e. about other dogs? and then granted concession (to keep) the dog for hunting and the dog for (the security) of the herd, and said: When the dog licks the utensil, wash it seven times, and rub it with earth the eighth time.

From Muslim #3813

Abu Zubair heard Jabir Abdullah saying: Allah’s messenger ordered us to kill dogs and we carried out this order so much so that we also killed the dog roaming with a women from the desert. Then Allah’s apostle forbade their killing. He said: "It is your duty to kill the jet-black (dog) having two spots (on the eyes) for it is a devil.

The note for #3814 says,

"The Hadith gives us an idea why the prophet commanded to kill dogs. There must have been an excess of stray dogs and thus the danger of rabies in the city of Medina and its suburbs.

The prophet therefore ordered to kill them. Later on when it was found that his Companions were killing them indiscriminately, he forbade them to do so and told them that only the ferocious beasts which were a source of danger to life should be killed.

The word “Devil” in the Hadith clarifies this point. Here devil stands for ferocious.

There more info here:
answering-islam.org/Silas/dogs.htm#_Toc158088969

 

[Muslim_Woman]

** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

Muslims Owning Dogs: Permissible?

Sheikh Ahmad Kutty… Canada:

“A dog can be owned for purposes such as the following:

1. A trained dog for hunting. Remember in Islam we are only allowed to hunt for food; there is no such thing as hunting for fun, for we are not allowed to kill or torture animals or drive them out of their habitats for the fun of it.
2. A trained dog as a guide. This would be the case if a person is blind and he/she has no choice but to keep a dog for essential services. In this case, it is permissible for him/her to keep a dog inside the house once it has been trained for service, but it is still recommended that the dog have its own sleeping arrangement.
3. A dog trained for police duties.
4. A guard dog to guard houses or property.
5. A dog used by farmers to shepherd cattle and sheep.

We are, however, not allowed to keep a dog as a pet, since it is not a very clean animal. How often have you come across the nasty sight of dogs taken for a walk licking their own excrement? Isn’t it disgusting to see their owners kissing the mouth of such animals after such incidents as if nothing happened?

Would you kiss the mouth of your own baby if he were to do the same? Think how many parasites and microbes may be hiding in their mouths.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) has spared us from being contaminated by such filth when he ordered us to stay clear of the saliva of dogs. If we ever come into contact with a dog’s saliva we must wash the spot seven times, the first of which should be with sand or dirt. It is also possible to use a bacterial soap instead of sand or dirt.

islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547226

 

[jakasaki]

** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

Muslims Owning Dogs: Permissible?

Sheikh Ahmad Kutty… Canada:

“A dog can be owned for purposes such as the following:

1. A trained dog for hunting. Remember in Islam we are only allowed to hunt for food; there is no such thing as hunting for fun, for we are not allowed to kill or torture animals or drive them out of their habitats for the fun of it.
2. A trained dog as a guide. This would be the case if a person is blind and he/she has no choice but to keep a dog for essential services. In this case, it is permissible for him/her to keep a dog inside the house once it has been trained for service, but it is still recommended that the dog have its own sleeping arrangement.
3. A dog trained for police duties.
4. A guard dog to guard houses or property.
5. A dog used by farmers to shepherd cattle and sheep.

We are, however, not allowed to keep a dog as a pet, since it is not a very clean animal. How often have you come across the nasty sight of dogs taken for a walk licking their own excrement? Isn’t it disgusting to see their owners kissing the mouth of such animals after such incidents as if nothing happened?

Would you kiss the mouth of your own baby if he were to do the same? Think how many parasites and microbes may be hiding in their mouths.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) has spared us from being contaminated by such filth when he ordered us to stay clear of the saliva of dogs. If we ever come into contact with a dog’s saliva we must wash the spot seven times, the first of which should be with sand or dirt. It is also possible to use a bacterial soap instead of sand or dirt.

islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547226

As a dog owner ( 2 of them) myself, I can assure you they don’t eat/lick their poop or their pee…

If we ever come into contact with a dog’s saliva we must wash the spot seven times, the first of which should be with sand or dirt.

But I find the above quote quite amusing! What’s with the magic number 7 - does it represent something?

Remember the word dog backwards spells GOD!!

Edit to add:

And what is the importance of the “dirt/sand”?

Thanks!

 

[sedonaman]

“A dog can be owned for purposes such as the following:

1. … we are not allowed to kill or torture animals or drive them out of their habitats for the fun of it.
   …

But it’s OK to torture, mutilate, and kill other human beings.

 

[Agabriel]

I have another question about Islam - hopefully this will generate answers better than my last one.

In reading about Islam’s aversion to pictures, I came across this hadith (I think that’s what it is as opposed to a verse from the Quran.)

And I’ve also discovered that Islam forbids owning dogs as pets and that some dogs (i.e. black dogs) are evil.

My question is then, what does Islam view as God’s purpose in creating dogs and why did he create a creature that even the angels are afraid to be near? Maybe when God created dogs they were good, but then corrupted by Satan so that they are all now evil? How does this reconcile with the reality of the intelligence of dogs and the benefits they can provide as in seeing-eye dogs, service dogs (provide comfort to sick and elderly people), and search and rescue dogs?

Although - this just dawned on me - dogs have a very uncanny sense of being able to judge the character of a person. Perhaps, “Gabriel” knew that the dog would be able to sense his evil and therefore would not enter the house.

Yeah, I have wondered why Muhammad was so against a black puppy. Why would an Angel of the Lord be afraid of a little puppy, one of God’s creatures? Puppies are probably the happiest little things on earth - it would have just licked the Angel and be happy to be around it. If anyone has been around a puppy - they are joys to be around. IF it was the Angel Gabriel, and not one of the condemned angels, such as Lucifer.

Muhammad expressed fear of this angel, and the one who said it was an angel was someone who wasn’t even there - Aisha. I think that a child, Aisha, and Muhammad the old man were on the same maturity level. But, there is no indication that Gabriel was mean, or nasty, when he came to Mary and to Joseph. It just doesn’t make sense. For Muhammad he squeezes Muhammad so he can’t breath, and this angel didn’t even know that Muhammad couldn’t read?!

Or Muhammad just made up the whole thing and used a dog as an excuse.

Either way, the whole thing is questionable. I would take a dog over Muhammad any day.

 

[Jay53]

** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

Muslims Owning Dogs: Permissible?

Sheikh Ahmad Kutty… Canada:

“A dog can be owned for purposes such as the following:

1. A trained dog for hunting. Remember in Islam we are only allowed to hunt for food; there is no such thing as hunting for fun, for we are not allowed to kill or torture animals or drive them out of their habitats for the fun of it.
2. A trained dog as a guide. This would be the case if a person is blind and he/she has no choice but to keep a dog for essential services. In this case, it is permissible for him/her to keep a dog inside the house once it has been trained for service, but it is still recommended that the dog have its own sleeping arrangement.
3. A dog trained for police duties.
4. A guard dog to guard houses or property.
5. A dog used by farmers to shepherd cattle and sheep.

We are, however, not allowed to keep a dog as a pet, since it is not a very clean animal. How often have you come across the nasty sight of dogs taken for a walk licking their own excrement? Isn’t it disgusting to see their owners kissing the mouth of such animals after such incidents as if nothing happened?

Would you kiss the mouth of your own baby if he were to do the same? Think how many parasites and microbes may be hiding in their mouths.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) has spared us from being contaminated by such filth when he ordered us to stay clear of the saliva of dogs. If we ever come into contact with a dog’s saliva we must wash the spot seven times, the first of which should be with sand or dirt. It is also possible to use a bacterial soap instead of sand or dirt.

islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547226

Thank you, Muslim Woman! That was very informative.
I also don’t agree with them being unclean animals. Our dog doesn’t lick its pee or poop, but I do know of some dogs who do (BTW, YUCK!). They just have to be trained not to. I guess it depends on the dog and their environment.

What about cats then? They lick themselves to bathe - are they unclean too?