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aldgh
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i was replying to:
“How could Muslims prove the authenticity of Quran?”
sorry for misinterpretations
“How could Muslims prove the authenticity of Quran?”
sorry for misinterpretations
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Muslim_Woman
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related verse from Quran:
This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah.
Who believe in the Unseen, are steadfast in prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them;
And who believe in the Revelation sent to thee, and sent before thy time, and (in their hearts) have the assurance of the Hereafter.
They are on (true) guidance, from their Lord, and it is these who will prosper. ( 2: 2-5)
It’s not a must to believe in all Hadiths. But a Muslim must not reject All Hadith as we can learn many things from it.
Sayings of the Prophet :
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), said: “The one that does not thank people, does not thank Allah.”
He also said: “If someone does you any favor, reward him; otherwise, pray for him.”
Do not express pleasure at the hardships of others. Let it not happen that Allah release them and involve you in it.
Salaam/peace
To be a Muslim , it’s a must to worship one God only , believe in all Prophets (pbut) , all holy books , angels , hell , heaven , heareafter .
related verse from Quran:
This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah.
Who believe in the Unseen, are steadfast in prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them;
And who believe in the Revelation sent to thee, and sent before thy time, and (in their hearts) have the assurance of the Hereafter.
They are on (true) guidance, from their Lord, and it is these who will prosper. ( 2: 2-5)
It’s not a must to believe in all Hadiths. But a Muslim must not reject All Hadith as we can learn many things from it.
Sayings of the Prophet :
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), said: “The one that does not thank people, does not thank Allah.”
He also said: “If someone does you any favor, reward him; otherwise, pray for him.”
Do not express pleasure at the hardships of others. Let it not happen that Allah release them and involve you in it.
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Muslim_Woman
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If u browse , u will find Quran recitatation from memory by 5 years old kid , 82 years old grandma & milliions ( both Arabs & non-Arabs ). It’s one of the proof that only Quran has this unique characteristics. Followers of other holy books did not/ could not preserve it in their memory , so it was easy for others to add/ edit the text. Quran is the only holy book that is unchanged / uncorrupted.
related link:
Was Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) “Illiterate”?
islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503546466&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar
Salaam/peace
God told disbelievers to bring another book like Quran . Take one example. God made it easy to remember/ memorise ( Quran has more than 6 thousands verses ) . Since the beginning of the revealation , Muslims memorised it .
If u browse , u will find Quran recitatation from memory by 5 years old kid , 82 years old grandma & milliions ( both Arabs & non-Arabs ). It’s one of the proof that only Quran has this unique characteristics. Followers of other holy books did not/ could not preserve it in their memory , so it was easy for others to add/ edit the text. Quran is the only holy book that is unchanged / uncorrupted.
Those who follow the messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with them …) Al-A`raf 7: 157
related link:
Was Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) “Illiterate”?
islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503546466&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar
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CatholicRevert1
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When God made his former and failed prophet, Jesus, capable of making water into wine, to feed multitudes with little bread and fish, why did his perfect messenger Muhammad have to pillage and loot for a living?
and How much of a God is Allah who made 128,000 failed prophets and then Muhammad with a final message?
When God made his former and failed prophet, Jesus, capable of making water into wine, to feed multitudes with little bread and fish, why did his perfect messenger Muhammad have to pillage and loot for a living?
and How much of a God is Allah who made 128,000 failed prophets and then Muhammad with a final message?
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ferdie
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Jesus performed miracles witnessed by thousands. He claimed that he has The Fathers authority. In fact He proved this countless times.
**If **muslims believe in this part of the New Testament, the Parable of the Tenants. The owner (God the Father) after sending his servants (the prophets) finally sent his last messenger (the Son). All the messenger died including the son. There is no mention of the owner sending another messenger, the son was the last one. So how can Muhammad be another prophet of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob if the Son is the last one that the Father sent? Unlike Jesus, he did not even performed miracles to prove his divine message ( if one consider his message divine).
If you don’t believe this part of the New Testament, can you please tell me why not?
**If **muslims believe in this part of the New Testament, the Parable of the Tenants. The owner (God the Father) after sending his servants (the prophets) finally sent his last messenger (the Son). All the messenger died including the son. There is no mention of the owner sending another messenger, the son was the last one. So how can Muhammad be another prophet of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob if the Son is the last one that the Father sent? Unlike Jesus, he did not even performed miracles to prove his divine message ( if one consider his message divine).
If you don’t believe this part of the New Testament, can you please tell me why not?
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Christians believe first miracle of Jesus (p) is turn wine in to water. Muslims believe his first miracle is to defend his innocent mom when people accused her of having a baby before marriage. Jesus (p) as a newborn baby declared that I am a servant of God Almighty . After hearing that people believe he is a miracle baby.
Muslims also believe some others Prophets (pbut) also performed miracles like Moses (p) divided sea , Muhammed (p) divided moon , went to heaven / upper sky to meet God etc . All those miracles were performed by the will & power of God. Miracles did not make any Prophet son of God or God Himself.
Anyway , it is not important for Muslims what today’s Bible says about prophecy , it’s important for us what Quran says about the matter.
And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Torah (which came) before me, and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.
But when it came to them with clear signs, they said, “This is evident sorcery.” As-Saff 61:6
Salaam/peace
CatholicRevert1: Jesus, capable of making water into wine
Christians believe first miracle of Jesus (p) is turn wine in to water. Muslims believe his first miracle is to defend his innocent mom when people accused her of having a baby before marriage. Jesus (p) as a newborn baby declared that I am a servant of God Almighty . After hearing that people believe he is a miracle baby.
Muslims also believe some others Prophets (pbut) also performed miracles like Moses (p) divided sea , Muhammed (p) divided moon , went to heaven / upper sky to meet God etc . All those miracles were performed by the will & power of God. Miracles did not make any Prophet son of God or God Himself.
anything contradicts with holy Quran is not acceptable to us. If Bible says Jesus (p) is the last one God sent , then we won’t accept it . We don’t have problem with these verses that during the time of Jesus (p) , people were looking for ’ That Prophet '. We love to say that Muhammed (p) is That Prophet predicted in OT & NT
Anyway , it is not important for Muslims what today’s Bible says about prophecy , it’s important for us what Quran says about the matter.
And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Torah (which came) before me, and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.
But when it came to them with clear signs, they said, “This is evident sorcery.” As-Saff 61:6
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ferdie
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It is not christian tradition that the baby Jesus spoke as an infant.
Mohammad’s miracles are not verifiable.
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dzheremi
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Our communities have a lot more in common than many of us realize. This is our reason for rejecting Islam, Muhammad, and hence the Qur’an: It contradicts our scripture in so very many ways!
And I love to say that the middle east ought to be considered Christian territory, but I bet that the majority of the area’s residents don’t see it…We love to say that Muhammed (p) is That Prophet predicted in OT & NT
It is too bad that merely wanting something to be true is not enough to make it so, isn’t it?
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related links:
The Story of Jesus, Son of Mary
islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/Belief/Messengers/article03.shtml
Muslims & the Biblical Muhammad
islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE&cid=1221461455117
Salaam/peace
God says so in holy Quran & it’s enough for us
related links:
The Story of Jesus, Son of Mary
islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/Belief/Messengers/article03.shtml
Muslims & the Biblical Muhammad
islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE&cid=1221461455117
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ferdie
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When a Catholic says God says so in the bible, we say that because it is verifiable in christian history. We have outside sources to verify it.http://theislampath.com/smf/Smileys/default/salam.gif
Salaam/peace
God says so in holy Quran & it’s enough for us
related links:
The Story of Jesus, Son of Mary
islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/Belief/Messengers/article03.shtml
Muslims & the Biblical Muhammad
islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE&cid=1221461455117
Have you dug a little deeper and question the veracity of the Quran? You know just to make sure.
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ferdie
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Anyone here care to explain to me the rise of radical muslims? It’s roots and ways to uproot it. What will be the role of peaceful muslims in combating these radicals, and suggestions on what we can do to help?
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w_stewart
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Well, this argument is grounded on the assumption that scientific method is the only way of arriving at a truth.
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Salaam/peace
In any of the Trinity threads , pl. explain how Christians verified that Jesus (p) really taught that he is God , he & holy Spirit are equal to God etc.
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ferdie
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The Trinity is not directly mentioned in the bible, but it is very much implied. The Church Fathers expounded on this teachings. Do you believe in the** development** of doctrines?
Can you explain this:
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the **name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." **
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We don’t believe Jesus (p) ever taught anything that contradicts the message of the previous holy books came to Moses , David (pbut)-- no one is equal to God , God is greater than All .
Salaam/peace
We believe , Jesus (p) was blessed with a holy book --Injeel . Later it was corrupted . Some verses in today’s Bible are acceptable to us as these carry the same message of Quran . Such as God is one , don’t take other deity besides God , don’t make image /statue of God etc.
We don’t believe Jesus (p) ever taught anything that contradicts the message of the previous holy books came to Moses , David (pbut)-- no one is equal to God , God is greater than All .
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ferdie
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Exactly when did it become corrupted? Where is the proof of that in history. For you to say that ‘later it corrupted’,** it should be verifiable in history**. Christian authorities would have objected to these corruptions.
As Catholics, we believe that the gates of hell will not prevail against Jesus’ church.
Christians also believe that God is one.
Christians don’t make any other God.
We don’t make images to worship them.
It is in the interpretation of the bible that where all these arguments come. You have your interpretation and I have my own.
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dzheremi
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I thought “injeel” was just the Arabic word for the gospels? It is in the Gospel of John, one of the books of the “injeel” (a strange word for Arabic, right? It is derived ultimately from Greek…why not “al-Bushara”?), that we read Jesus’ instruction to Thomas, who doubted the truth of His resurrection just as Muslims do today:
This is from the “Injeel” itself! Of course, you will not believe…it is “corrupted”, like everything that contradicts your book that came hundreds of years later, to deny what Thomas accepted upon placing His finger into the wounds of the resurrected Christ. If only Muhammad could have done the same!
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ferdie
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1.Why can’t the peaceful muslims stop the radical muslims in destroying the name of Islam?
2.What are the peaceful muslims doing to stop the radical muslims in maligning the name of Islam?
3.Are muslims ok to the idea of having another Caliphate?
4.If you are ok with the Caliphate, how are you planning to do it?
5. Where can I find a peaceful muslim martyred (killed because he believed that Islam is a religion of peace)?
2.What are the peaceful muslims doing to stop the radical muslims in maligning the name of Islam?
3.Are muslims ok to the idea of having another Caliphate?
4.If you are ok with the Caliphate, how are you planning to do it?
5. Where can I find a peaceful muslim martyred (killed because he believed that Islam is a religion of peace)?
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swariffin
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Which verses of the Injeel were corrupted and which were not??? Please answer us. If you cannot proof that, sorry you are just making assumption. We can show you that any story in Quran about Jesus and Mary were based on plagiarism that Muhammad copied from the heresy books. Proof is that those heresy books were already present prior to Quran. For the muslim, the correct injeel is the gospel of barnabas regardless of many geographical errors in it. The strange thing is, they claim they don’t put faith in the gospel of barnabas.
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