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[morning_star777]

If a Jewish or Christian lady refused to accept the condition that in future kids won’t be raised as Muslims , then a Muslim man must not marry her if he fears God.

Thank you .You proved me right.I always said that most of muslim who marry non muslims,they just want to increase muslims in number.so if a christian want to marry a muslim then he or she should convert to islam or if his/her muslim lover is very kind then the non muslim can marry his/her lover without conversion(rare cases,in most of case non muslims must have to convert),but their children must be muslim correct?because we christians and other non muslims are profane:yup: so love christian lovers but do not marry them without conversion or atleast children must be muslim right?because without conversion to islam no one can enter to jannah(hevean) correct?very nice teaching that all non muslims are unholy.:clapping: .so muslim woman you proved now that your religion does not teach respect to others.Thank God that I leaved islam.

 

[Angelos]

Thank you .You proved me right.I always said that most of muslim who marry non muslims,they just want to increase muslims in number.so if a christian want to marry a muslim then he or she should convert to islam or if his/her muslim lover is very kind then the non muslim can marry his/her lover without conversion(rare cases,in most of case non muslims must have to convert),but their children must be muslim correct?because we christians and other non muslims are profane:yup: so love christian lovers but do not marry them without conversion or atleast children must be muslim right?because without conversion to islam no one can enter to jannah(hevean) correct?very nice teaching that all non muslims are unholy.:clapping: .so muslim woman you proved now that your religion does not teach respect to others.Thank God that I leaved islam.

Dear morning_star 777, you wait wait wait, and then suddenly give the mortal blow.

I enjoyed your post very much! Keep up the good work.

Peace and blessings to you

 

[dolphinlove]

Dear morning_star 777, you wait wait wait, and then suddenly give the mortal blow.

I enjoyed your post very much! Keep up the good work.

Peace and blessings to you

I totally agree with you Angelos about Morning_star77, he has a cheeky sense of humour which i just love! And he puts muslims to the test.

 

[Angelos]

I totally agree with you Angelos about Morning_star77, he has a cheeky sense of humour which i just love! And he puts muslims to the test.

 

[Malgosia]

Salaam/peace;
Did u know about that condition when u married ? If yes , then u broke ur promise ; If u did not know , then ur husband made a serious mistake .

If a Jewish or Christian lady refused to accept the condition that in future kids won’t be raised as Muslims , then a Muslim man must not marry her if he fears God.

Did you know that my husband knew that I would not marry him UNLESS our kids can be raised Catholic? He made his choice with full knowledge of it.

Did you miss the point that Catholic cannot practice his/her faith and receive sacraments unless they are married in Catholic Church and the condition of it is that kids are raised Catholic?

I have 2 daughters, they are the best things that ever happen to me.

Your faith tells them the following:

• the voice of 2 women equals that of 1 man (does a woman only have half a brain?)
• they can be beaten by their husbands
• they can never say no if their husbands want to have sex, no matter how tired they are.
• they are most probably going to hell, since Muhammad said that most of inhabitants of hell are women.
• they can cancel the man’s prayer if they pass in front of him (the same if a dog passes in front of him during prayer)
  Which mother would raise her daughters to believe that???

Not this mother.

 

[Malgosia]

Did you not read the part that it is also our Catholic duty to raise our kids Catholic!!!
If, and i do mean a big fat IF, i married a muslim, there is no way my kids would be muslim, they will believe in the divinity of Jesus and believe in the church he created.

Thank you dolphinlove, this is exactly what I have been trying to say.

However, I do feel sorry for all women in Islam. Read my previous post where I listed the reasons I could never raise my daughters muslim.

It is a very small selection of a proof that Islam is a religion made by a man to serve men.

 

[planten]

muslims also have sun day and monday etc.Well if muhammad was not a pagan then what was his religion before islam?was he a pre islamic muslim?(muslims claim that before muhammad,christians were muslim an before Jesus Jewish were also muslim).planten,if muhammad was not pagan then was he a christian?Btw,be carefull,from 570 to 610 christians believed trinity like past and present days.so if christians before 610 A.D. were muslim then islam based on prophets,because that time also jewish people did not believe in trinity.so if islam is God’s religion and if trinity is not monotheism then that time jewish were muslim according to islamic monotheism not christians.But If prophets are greater than allah then christians were muslim,because before and also after muhammed they are the worshiper of Jesus(according to islam Jesus is prophet isa).so was muhmmad a jewish or christian?

**Please do not ask about Muhammad before he became a prophet of God. Jesus was also only a carpenter before his ministry which lasted only three years. I hope you will not accuse Muhammad about his beliefs before he became a prophet. It is well known that he did not worship any idol.

His relatives, like those of Abraham, were all pagans. But it is better to leave this subject alone.**

 

[planten]

Dear morning_star 777, you wait wait wait, and then suddenly give the mortal blow.

I enjoyed your post very much! Keep up the good work.

Peace and blessings to you

Angelos, you seemed to like the subject. I could not understand anything of the morning-stars matrimonial blows which you enjoyed very much.

 

[planten]

Thank you dolphinlove, this is exactly what I have been trying to say.

However, I do feel sorry for all women in Islam. Read my previous post where I listed the reasons I could never raise my daughters muslim.

It is a very small selection of a proof that Islam is a religion made by a man to serve men.

** Not all Muslim women are suffering. Only some or may be many do suffer due to ignorance of the muslim masses. But that is not the fault of Islam. I can give only examples from Hadith.

Islam tells (The prophet said it) that “the best amongst you is the one who is best for his wife. And I am the best amongst you because I am dealing the best with my wives.”**

 

[Angelos]

**Please do not ask about Muhammad before he became a prophet of God. Jesus was also only a carpenter before his ministry which lasted only three years. I hope you will not accuse Muhammad about his beliefs before he became a prophet. It is well known that he did not worship any idol.

His relatives, like those of Abraham, were all pagans. But it is better to leave this subject alone.**

It seems, dear planten, that you are of rare people on this forum who will erroneously compare Jesus’ social status (job) to Mohammad’s faith (paganism) before his invention of Islam.

According to the New Testament, Jesus was Jewish, not pagan. According to your scripture, Issa was born of a Muslim mother and was chosen by God before His conception. Nothing of the sort can be said about Mohammad, who had been a pagan for 40 years!
Mohammad worshipped many idols.

 

[Angelos]

Angelos, you seemed to like the subject. I could not understand anything of the morning-stars matrimonial blows which you enjoyed very much.

Would you like me to explain his post to you?

 

[dolphinlove]

**Please do not ask about Muhammad before he became a prophet of God. Jesus was also only a carpenter before his ministry which lasted only three years. I hope you will not accuse Muhammad about his beliefs before he became a prophet. It is well known that he did not worship any idol.

His relatives, like those of Abraham, were all pagans. But it is better to leave this subject alone.**

Why? You have no problem insulting Jesus, we will say what we like about Muhammad. Muhammad was a pagan, like it or not, but the fact remains he was a pagan.
He did no worship an idol? He kissed a big black rock for crying out loud, isnt this idol worshipping?
And he is a false prophet, he denied Jesus, just as Jesus said there would be false prophets that would deny him.
You still have not addressed the other posts planten, or do you fear you will make up more interesting stories?

 

[R_not]

**Please do not ask about Muhammad before he became a prophet of God. Jesus was also only a carpenter before his ministry which lasted only three years. I hope you will not accuse Muhammad about his beliefs before he became a prophet. It is well known that he did not worship any idol.

His relatives, like those of Abraham, were all pagans. But it is better to leave this subject alone.**

Why? It wasn’t so bad before mohammed messed it up?

Well, yeah he did worship an idol - he worshiped an idol that sat upon the ka’baa. You want us to just sit back like you guys - like robots and accept wrong answers?

You guys still worship the ka’baa and that rock.

 

[dolphinlove]

Why? It wasn’t so bad before mohammed messed it up?

Well, yeah he did worship an idol - he worshiped an idol that sat upon the ka’baa. You want us to just sit back like you guys - like robots and accept wrong answers?

You guys still worship the ka’baa and that rock.

r_not, are you reading my mind again???

 

[R_not]

Thank you .You proved me right.I always said that most of muslim who marry non muslims,they just want to increase muslims in number.so if a christian want to marry a muslim then he or she should convert to islam or if his/her muslim lover is very kind then the non muslim can marry his/her lover without conversion(rare cases,in most of case non muslims must have to convert),but their children must be muslim correct?because we christians and other non muslims are profane:yup: so love christian lovers but do not marry them without conversion or atleast children must be muslim right?because without conversion to islam no one can enter to jannah(hevean) correct?very nice teaching that all non muslims are unholy.:clapping: .so muslim woman you proved now that your religion does not teach respect to others.Thank God that I leaved islam.

I always enjoy reading your posts. You stated very nicely what is the truth in islam. :clapping: What you wrote is why there are so many kidnappings in other countries of girls who are not only forced to convert to islam but are forced to marry muslim males. It seems to be epidemic in areas around India and Southeast Asia. I haven’t read anything about Africa - but it wouldn’t surprise me that it is going on in these areas too.

So far we have not had that happen to our girl children (we think).

 

[R_not]

r_not, are you reading my mind again???

heh heh heh - I can type pretty fast so I probably just beat you to the punch.

How do you like this thread where we are just supposed to sit back and be zombie robots :hypno: and accept abrogated surahs, myths and fairy tales? :dts:

This is what happens when one has 1400 years of not having to spread one’s faith by reason, but by the sword. No one has ever developed beyond a very minimalist mindset.:ehh:

 

[dolphinlove]

heh heh heh - I can type pretty fast so I probably just beat you to the punch.

How do you like this thread where we are just supposed to sit back and be zombie robots :hypno: and accept abrogated surahs, myths and fairy tales? :dts:

This is what happens when one has 1400 years of not having to spread one’s faith by reason, but by the sword. No one has ever developed beyond a very minimalist mindset.:ehh:

Yep, because they are programmed like robots and think like robots, they dont like the challenges and not have to think outside the square.
The quran tells then not to ask questions about Islam or question it.
As for your typing, i can see by the amount of posts you have done on here you must be quite fast…

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace;

… How much of the Christian faith is allowed to be practiced in the home by the Christian wife?

Thank you and wa’saleem.

a related link:

Q. Can I Allow My Christian Wife to Eat Pork or Drink Alcohol?

Ans:…The Qur’an is not the only Book that prohibits the eating of pork; the Bible even prohibits it and declares it to be unclean.

In the book of Leviticus, chapter 11, v. 7, we read: "And the swine,. . . he is unclean to you. Of the flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcasses shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you. "

This command is repeated in Deuteronomy 14:7-8:…Then, in Isaiah 65:2-4, and 66:17, God issues a stern warning against those who eat pork

Some people are aware of this prohibition from God, but they say that they can eat pork because St. Paul said, in his letter to the Romans, that all food is clean 14:20…In the Gospel, according to Matthew 5:17-20, Jesus is reported to have said quite the contrary, as follows: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law . . . . "

With regard to drinking wine, we read in Isaiah 5:22: “Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink. ”

And in Leviticus, 10: 8-10, we read: "You and your sons are not to drink wine or other fermented drink whenever you go into the Tent of Meeting, or you will die. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come.”

we can conclude that it is not allowed for a Muslim marrying a Christian woman to prevent her from practicing anything that is allowed in her faith, say her prayers, fast her way, and do other rituals.

As for eating pork, he is allowed to prevent her from it since it forbidden according to her faith.

Concerning drinking wine, Sheikh Hamed Al-`Ali, instructor of Islamic Heritage at the Faculty of Education, Kuwait and Imam of Dahiat As-Sabahiyya Mosque, states:

“Scholars say that he does not prevent her from drinking that which does not result in intoxication because she believes it is permissible for her in her religion.

But he can prevent her from drinking wine that intoxicates as it is prohibited in all religions. As for eating pork, it is even prohibited in all religions, and as such the husband can prevent her from eating it.”

islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545770

 

[Malgosia]

Please do not ask about Muhammad before he became a prophet of God. Jesus was also only a carpenter before his ministry which lasted only three years. I hope you will not accuse Muhammad about his beliefs before he became a prophet. It is well known that he did not worship any idol.

His relatives, like those of Abraham, were all pagans. But it is better to leave this subject alone.

Yes, Muslims feel very uncomfortable asking about Muhammad’s religion before he received his “revelation”.

Actually, Muhammad’s first wife Kadijah, who was 25 years older than him was a schismatic Christian of the Nestorian sect, and her cousin, who was a priest of this church married her and Muhammad in what we would call a Christian wedding. The only surviving child of Muhammad was a fruit of this marriage. Her name was Fatima. Who knows, maybe she was even baptised

Muhammad frequently went to seek advice of Kadijah’s cousin-priest in various matters.

Please read below to find out a very short discription of the schismatic teachings of nestorians.

Nestorianism

Nestorianism is the error that Jesus is two distinct persons. The heresy is named after Nestorius, who was born in Syria and died in 451 AD, who advocated this doctrine. Nestorius was a monk who became the Patriarch of Constantinople and he repudiated the Marian title “Mother of God.” He held that Mary was the mother of Christ only in respect to His humanity. The council of Ephesus was convened in 431 to address the issue and pronounced that Jesus was one person in two distinct and inseparable natures: divine and human.
Nestorius was deposed as Patriarch and sent to Antioch, then Arabia, and then Egypt. Nestorianism survived until around 1300.

The Bible stories found in Koran are probably a products of discussions Muhammad had with Kadijah’s cousin.

You will not hear about it from Muslims, they like to pretend that there is no way Muhammad hear Biblical stories before they were revealed to him by “angel”.

The truth is that’s probably where they came from.

 

[Malgosia]

As for eating pork, he is allowed to prevent her from it since it forbidden according to her faith.

Well, it is not forbidden according to her religion, which you obviously do not know. It is forbidden in Judaism, but not Christianity. Plus, doesn’t the woman have a brain herself to know what is forbidden to her? The husband is not her owner, he is her spouse and partner, but obvoiusly not in Islam.

A lot of Jewish laws were imposed on the chosen people to test their obedience to God. They were to be kept pure and separated from pagans since from them was to come the Messiah that would redeem the whole world. They were not to do what pagans were doing, and since pagans ate pork, Jews were not allowed to do it.