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aaronjo
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You mean your God slept with a 12~16 years old Jewess virgin girl, like how men sleep with their wives and make their wives pregnant to be called fathers of their babies?
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tGette
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Hit and run, ouch!
NO…the word I used was “MIRACULOUSLY”!
Meaning…no sex involved!
God was referred to as Father by the Jews long before this happened!
God is Jesus’ Father in a more direct way in this aspect and He is also our Father because we are all children of God.
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R_not
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Just because allah couldn’t figure out that the earth revolved around the sun, or about DNA - just to mention a few idiocies in the koran about science - don’t tell us that God, the Creator of this earth couldn’t make a miracle happen.
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Muslim_Woman
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Salaam/peace;
Remember Adam & Eve ( pbut ) , they had no mom or dad .
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tGette
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Good point, but they were not born either…they were created.
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inJESUS
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that was Muhammad’s mistake when he asked “how can Allah have a son if he has no wife”.
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Angelos
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This was what your Mohammad’s scribes mistakenly supposed. It is no wonder that your are repeating their mistakes.
Mohammad also taught that his god blew into Mary’s vagina to create Jesus (Surah 66:12). Your scripture is full of pornographic details. LOL
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planten
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It was interesting to know in Genesis, that God was looking for Adam. He said ," O Adam, where are you?"
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Muslim_Woman
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Salaam/peace
[66.12]
lol this is pornography ? Regarding bible , what’s the description ? how is that so nice to u ?
And Marium, the daughter of Imran, who guarded her chastity, so **We breathed into her of Our inspiration **and she accepted the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was of, the obedient ones.
[66.12]
lol this is pornography ? Regarding bible , what’s the description ? how is that so nice to u ?
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Muslim_Woman
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Salaam/peace;
God is the only Creator , we are His creations including Jesus & Mother Mary ( pbut).
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inJESUS
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Adam was created without the intervention of physical parents because the cycle of reproduction did not exist yet so comparing his birth to Jesus is flawed. Why would Jesus be born without a biological father?
As to Angelos, he was commenting on the word “vagina” found in the Arabic Quran but not in the English translations…
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Angelos
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Surah 7:11-12
And We created you, then fashioned you, then told the angels: Fall ye prostrate before Adam! And they fell prostrate, all save Iblis, who was not of those who make prostration. He said: What hindered thee that thou didst not fall prostrate when I bade thee?(Iblis) said: I am better than him. Thou createdst me of fire while him Thou didst create of mud.
Mohammad’s all-knowing God asks Satan why he does not fall prostrate before Adam. It is interesting to know that he does not know Iblis’ reason.
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tGette
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Why is The God referred to as “WE” very often in the Qur’an?
I thought God was supposed to be ONE not MORE THAN ONE?
What is the reasoning behind this?
I thought God was supposed to be ONE not MORE THAN ONE?
What is the reasoning behind this?
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Angelos
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Please stop being ashamed of your scripture and quote that verse in Arabic. The original language of your Koran has the word vagina!
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inJESUS
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the royal we , to emphasize Allah’s power/status.
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planten
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Ya angelos, you are a fool who is ascribing such dirty words about Mary in the Quran. There is no such things. I highly object to such things because it is a lie. That is a foolish translation of the verse 66:12.
There was no blowing into Mary. It was blowing into Jesus, the spirit from God. I give the right translation now:
66:10] Allah sets forth an example for those who disbelieve, the wife of Noah and the wife of Lot. They were under two righteous servants of Ours, but they acted treacherously to them. So they availed them naught against Allah, and it was said to them, ‘Enter the Fire, ye twain, along with those who enter it.’
[66:11] And Allah holds forth as an example, for those who believe, the wife of Pharaoh when she said, 'My Lord! build for me a house with Thee in the Garden; and deliver me from Pharaoh and his work, and deliver me from the wrongdoing people;
[66:12] And sets forth as an example Mary, the daughter of Imr›n, who guarded her chastity - so We breathed into him of Our Spirit -and she fulfilled the prophecy conveyed to her in the words of her Lord contained in His Books and she was one of the obedient.
The breathing of the spirit was in Jesus not in Mary. See the words “We breathed into him of Our spirit…”
The verse 66:11 and 66:12 are very important. They are a miracle for the sake of Jesus and Mary. I have to describe that for some special purpose as follows:
There is a Hadith as follows:
" Whenever there is a new born, the dare-devil beats him (slaps him) and he cries except Mary and her son (Jesus)."
This Hadith has to be read in conjunction with the two last verses of chapter 66, shown above i.e. 66:11 and 66:12.
There are two types of believers. Allah gives the example of all believers (men and women) by the wife of Pharoah and by the mother of Jesus. 66:11 tells us about the believers who are chased and disturbed and tormented (tempted) by the devil and the believer cries and calls Allah for help. That is the case of the wife of Pharoah who went through some difficulty but kept her belief safe.
The other type sof believers (men and women) are being given the example by Jesus and his mother. The devil never disturbs them, never comes near them, never tempts them. They are pure type of people, like Jesus and his mother.
The Meaning is: Whenever any one comes in the fold of Islam or believes in God (becomes a new believer) the devil gets after all of themr and torments them except Jesus and his mother… i.e. except those who are like Jesus and his mother. They are not disturbed by the devil
Here in the Hadith, the new born is not a baby. But it is a new born in the religion. That means spiritual birth.
** to create Jesus (Surah 66:12). Your scripture is full of pornographic details. LOL
Ya angelos, you are a fool who is ascribing such dirty words about Mary in the Quran. There is no such things. I highly object to such things because it is a lie. That is a foolish translation of the verse 66:12.
There was no blowing into Mary. It was blowing into Jesus, the spirit from God. I give the right translation now:
66:10] Allah sets forth an example for those who disbelieve, the wife of Noah and the wife of Lot. They were under two righteous servants of Ours, but they acted treacherously to them. So they availed them naught against Allah, and it was said to them, ‘Enter the Fire, ye twain, along with those who enter it.’
[66:11] And Allah holds forth as an example, for those who believe, the wife of Pharaoh when she said, 'My Lord! build for me a house with Thee in the Garden; and deliver me from Pharaoh and his work, and deliver me from the wrongdoing people;
[66:12] And sets forth as an example Mary, the daughter of Imr›n, who guarded her chastity - so We breathed into him of Our Spirit -and she fulfilled the prophecy conveyed to her in the words of her Lord contained in His Books and she was one of the obedient.
The breathing of the spirit was in Jesus not in Mary. See the words “We breathed into him of Our spirit…”
The verse 66:11 and 66:12 are very important. They are a miracle for the sake of Jesus and Mary. I have to describe that for some special purpose as follows:
There is a Hadith as follows:
" Whenever there is a new born, the dare-devil beats him (slaps him) and he cries except Mary and her son (Jesus)."
This Hadith has to be read in conjunction with the two last verses of chapter 66, shown above i.e. 66:11 and 66:12.
There are two types of believers. Allah gives the example of all believers (men and women) by the wife of Pharoah and by the mother of Jesus. 66:11 tells us about the believers who are chased and disturbed and tormented (tempted) by the devil and the believer cries and calls Allah for help. That is the case of the wife of Pharoah who went through some difficulty but kept her belief safe.
The other type sof believers (men and women) are being given the example by Jesus and his mother. The devil never disturbs them, never comes near them, never tempts them. They are pure type of people, like Jesus and his mother.
The Meaning is: Whenever any one comes in the fold of Islam or believes in God (becomes a new believer) the devil gets after all of themr and torments them except Jesus and his mother… i.e. except those who are like Jesus and his mother. They are not disturbed by the devil
Here in the Hadith, the new born is not a baby. But it is a new born in the religion. That means spiritual birth.
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inJESUS
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Angelos
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You have NO right on this forum and on this planet to personally insult me by calling me a fool!
Next time you MUST re-read your post before submitting it and be sure that it contain no insult. Watch your mouth and vocabulary.
This twisted translation makes no sense! Why would God breathe into Jesus to create Him??? How could God breathe INTO Jesus even BEFORE creating Him?
More, that verse talks about Mary, not Jesus! The name ISSA is missing from that verse and there is no male referent there either! The original language has the Arabic word “FARJAHAA” for vagina. The Koran verse actually says Imran’s daughter guarded Her vagina, and We breathed into IT from our Spirit. Thus, the verse cannot be referring to Jesus since Jesus did NOT have a vagina. LOL
That’s your distorted version of the Koran. The literal translation from the Arabic origin reads:
Surah 66:12
And Mary, daughter of 'Imran, who guarded Her vagina, therefore We breathed therein something of Our Spirit. And she put faith in the words of her Lord and His scriptures, and was of the obedient.
Nothing about Issa here. The Chapter compares and contrasts some significant women with regard to their faith/disbelief and obedience/disobedience.
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cathopologist
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Translations of Surah 66:12 by Compendium of Muslim Texts from the University of Southern California:
[ and she accepted the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was of, the obedient ones.
PICKTHAL:We breathed therein something of Our Spirit
SHAKIR:**We breathed into her of Our inspiration](http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/066.qmt.html)
Seems there are several variations of this surah. So which is which?
[ and she accepted the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was of, the obedient ones.
** We breathed into (her body) of Our spirit****
PICKTHAL:We breathed therein something of Our Spirit
SHAKIR:**We breathed into her of Our inspiration](http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/066.qmt.html)
Seems there are several variations of this surah. So which is which?
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Angelos
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These translations are only partly correct since they skip the word “vagina” in the original language and replace it with the word “body”.
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