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[inJESUS]

Salaam/peace

I guess , may be God wanted to see who rejected His sign & disobey , who overpraise Jesus (p) & make him God & who give him the due respect as a prophet & be the real servants of God i.e. Muslims

if you haven’t put that smiley, i’d have thought you were serious

 

[inJESUS]

Salaam/peace

if die without sincere repentence , then punishment is hell fire for a killer of an innocent person.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

 

[inJESUS]

Salaam/peace
inJESUS;4166104:

well , I was / am serious , very very serious …just dont know which smiley to use to show seriousness

you were serious when you said the virgin birth was meant to be a trick to humanity??

 

[Angelos]

**Thank you angelos for telling us that origin of your books was in greek.

Whereas the Muslims got rid of idols and paganism, your elders took the good religion to the pagans, the greeks, who knew nothing about the REAL God. They had their own gods and goddesses. That spolied your religion.**

Jesus’ disciples took His Gospel and truth to the entire world and made pagans know the true God.

I see that you have some problems with pagans. Is it because your religion was founded by a pagan, whose will to spoil the truth and the Bible caused him to fabricate a book full of lies?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

and if he repents, how is that sin paid for? in other words, is repentence enough or is there extra things to do?

 

[trustme80]

hi Muslim Woman
i think those verses are from the weak/powerless era
maybe you should enlighten us with the more numerous from the tyrannical era
not the mention, the hadiths

the mafia means peace ( you pay, you are protected )
from who ?

 

[planten]

hi Muslim Woman
i think those verses are from the weak/powerless era
maybe you should enlighten us with the more numerous from the tyrannical era
not the mention, the hadiths

the mafia means peace ( you pay, you are protected )
from who ?

It is not clear what the poster wants. If there is need for tyranical passages then one should only read the bible (OT). Some real tyranny will be found there who will not even spare the ladies and the children.

That is must for the church because it is an integral part of their bible, I do not know what for.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

you were serious when you said the virgin birth was meant to be a trick to humanity??

It’s midnight , i have to wake up at 3:30 am to eat something .

so ,a short ans now.

Jesus (p)'s miracle birth was a sign from God . Jews rejected the sign , tried to kill him & were cursed by God.

Christians overpraised Jesus (p) & made him equal to God ; thus misguided .

Only Muslims accepted Jesus (p) as a blessed Prophet of God Almighty . So , God Willing , we will be rewarded on the last day

btw. I am serious

 

[Angelos]

It is not clear what the poster wants. If there is need for tyranical passages then one should only read the bible (OT). Some real tyranny will be found there who will not even spare the ladies and the children.

That is must for the church because it is an integral part of their bible, I do not know what for.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to find in the Old Testament the like of the following verses :

Surah 9:5
When the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free.

Surah 9:29
Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

It is IMPOSSIBLE to find in the Old Testament the like of the following verses :

try to find verse : Show No mercy

 

[Angelos]

Jesus (p)'s miracle birth was a sign from God . Jews rejected the sign , tried to kill him & were cursed by God.

btw. I am serious

Where is it written in your Koran that Jews rejected Jesus and tried to kill Him because of His miraculous conception? I have read your scripture so many times so far, but I have not come across anything close to your allegation by any chance!

Through this evasive answer, you do not answer why God made Jesus a sign through His birth and you seem to ignore the fact that the Koran regards Jesus as a sign for the whole mankind, not only for Jews.

 

[Angelos]

Salaam/peace

try to find verse : Show No mercy

I tried it in the Koran, and look what I found:

Surah 9:73
O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey’s end.

Surah 9:123
O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).
**
Surah 9:84**
And never (O Muhammad) pray for one of them who dieth, nor stand by his grave. Lo! they disbelieved in Allah and His messenger, and they died while they were evil-doers.

 

[trustme80]

It is not clear what the poster wants. If there is need for tyranical passages then one should only read the bible (OT). Some real tyranny will be found there who will not even spare the ladies and the children.

That is must for the church because it is an integral part of their bible, I do not know what for.

i want peace

OT has its context, and is thousands of years before muhammad
islam = moving backward thousands of years
logical and simple, right

 

[planten]

Where is it written in your Koran that Jews rejected Jesus and tried to kill Him because of His miraculous conception? I have read your scripture so many times so far, but I have not come across anything close to your allegation by any chance!

Through this evasive answer, you do not answer why God made Jesus a sign through His birth and you seem to ignore the fact that the Koran regards Jesus as a sign for the whole mankind, not only for Jews.

** It is true. Not only jesus but his mother Mary too are a sign of God for all mankind, This is partly mentioned in chapter 19 that Isa was an Ayatullah for the mankind. In another place it is descirbed that Jesus and his mother were both a sign, by the Grace of God. But you people do not know it. You do not understand it. You do not look for it.

I cannot tell you because you do not believe in Quran and it is not needed by you. But please remember that virgin birth is no sign at all. It cannot be a sign. Even if today, some lady gave virgin birth to a child, it will not be accepted as a sign of Allah.

And please understand the meaning pf virgin. Every lady who has not seen a man until she met her own husband is a virgin. She is then a virgin for entire life.**

 

[planten]

I tried it in the Koran, and look what I found:

Surah 9:73
O Prophet! Strive against** the disbelievers and the hypocrites!** Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey’s end.

Surah 9:123
O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).
**
Surah 9:84**
And never (O Muhammad) pray for one of them who dieth, nor stand by his grave. Lo! they disbelieved in Allah and His messenger, and they died while they were evil-doers.

** I will only reply to the part colored Red above. Please read verse 9:73 again. There is a word about being harsh with the Kaafirs and with hypocrites (Munafiqueen). That means we are to strive hard against the external enemies and against the internal enemies.

The kaafir and Munafiq are both enemy of Islam and Islam does not teach the un-natural method of “LOve Thy enemy”. Islam teaches to deal with the internal and external enemies sternly.

I hope you have understood 9:73. Similarly you will be able to understand other verses too. Kaafir is a hostile fighting type non-believer.**

 

[Angelos]

** It is true. Not only jesus but his mother Mary too are a sign of God for all mankind, This is partly mentioned in chapter 19 that Isa was an Ayatullah for the mankind. In another place it is descirbed that Jesus and his mother were both a sign, by the Grace of God. But you people do not know it. You do not understand it. You do not look for it.**

Now you are twisting what I stated in response to Muslim Woman.

I never claimed that the Koran considers only Jesus a sign for mankind. Go ahead and keep denying things I did not even imply.

**
I cannot tell you because you do not believe in Quran and it is not needed by you. But please remember that virgin birth is no sign at all. It cannot be a sign. Even if today, some lady gave virgin birth to a child, it will not be accepted as a sign of Allah.**

The virgin birth is no sign? How are both Jesus and His mother made a sign for mankind then? Why does your Koran refer to Jesus’ miraculous birth and Mary’s chastity while designating both of them as a sign for mankind? Please explain.

**
And please understand the meaning pf virgin. Every lady who has not seen a man until she met her own husband is a virgin. She is then a virgin for entire life.**

What does this mean? Do you believe that Mary was not really a virgin when She gave birth to Jesus? Do you think the Koran repeated the accounts of Mary’s virginity because it was influenced by how languages and cultures defined virgins? There was nothing special about Mary? Was She an ordinary virgin??

 

[Angelos]

** I will only reply to the part colored Red above. Please read verse 9:73 again. There is a word about being harsh with the Kaafirs and with hypocrites (Munafiqueen). That means we are to strive hard against the external enemies and against the internal enemies.

The kaafir and Munafiq are both enemy of Islam and Islam does not teach the un-natural method of “LOve Thy enemy”. Islam teaches to deal with the internal and external enemies sternly.

I hope you have understood 9:73. Similarly you will be able to understand other verses too. Kaafir is a hostile fighting type non-believer.**

I cannot see your specific definition in those verses. The Koran does not say disbelievers who are hypocrites, but disbelievers AND hypocrites. These cannot be the same group of people. Although it is true that hypocrites are generally disbelievers, it is not true that all disbelievers are hypocrites!

 

[trustme80]

kafir and munafik has been absorbed to the ( my ) indonesian language
kafir = non-believer
munafik = hypocrit
that’s it !
and it is used extensively by the ulamas in my country, thus there’s know other interpretation
those are two different things, and means what they mean

 

[Booklover]

kafir and munafik has been absorbed to the ( my ) indonesian language
kafir = non-believer
munafik = hypocrit
that’s it !
and it is used extensively by the ulamas in my country, thus there’s know other interpretation
those are two different things, and means what they mean

Yes, according to Islamqa.com: Kaffir = unbeliever! So Planten is as usual muddying the waters.

Vickie