Ask about Islam

[mariy]

Hello! I am a Catholic woman from the US and recently became engaged to a Muslim man from Senegal. Neither of us has any experience with couples in mixed marriages of this kind. We would like to raise our children with exposure to both religions.

Does the Koran allow Muslim men to attend Catholic mass? Is a Catholic woman allowed to participate in prayers at the Mosque? As a show of solidarity for our children, we would both like to support eachother’s religion, but not convert.

Thank you!

 

[dolphinlove]

Hello! I am a Catholic woman from the US and recently became engaged to a Muslim man from Senegal. Neither of us has any experience with couples in mixed marriages of this kind. We would like to raise our children with exposure to both religions.

Does the Koran allow Muslim men to attend Catholic mass? Is a Catholic woman allowed to participate in prayers at the Mosque? As a show of solidarity for our children, we would both like to support eachother’s religion, but not convert.

Thank you!

Welcome to the forums.
Here is a thread that might interest you. Its recent and will have a LOT of informative information for you
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=261784

 

[DLC]

Muslims claim to be holy people who are more humane that Christians. However, they always speak of killing us and driving the Jews into the sea. They strap explosives onto themselves to blow people up, and they even turn their children into suicide bombers to kill the Jews and others.

What Islam is doing is clearly written in the Bible. 1 Kings 21:19
19 “You shall speak to him, saying, 'Thus says the LORD, " Have you murdered and also taken possession?”’ And you shall speak to him, saying, ‘Thus says the LORD, " In the place where the dogs licked up the blood of Naboth the dogs will lick up your blood, even yours."’"
NASU

God was angry with King Ahab and his wife, Jezebel, for killing Naboth and stealing Naboth’s land. Islam may complain about the difficult time their people have around the world. They may weep for their poor. But what about those who have paid such a high price and lost children. Does Islam morn for their own dead?

If Islam would believe in the Lord, they would have special feelings for one another and be more considerate for one another.

Islam bows down before one in whom they believe. Yet in the Bible it is clearly written that we become like the one in whom we put our trust. Ps 135:18
18 Those who make them will be like them,
Yes, everyone who trusts in them.
NASU

DC

 

[DLC]

We become like what we worship. What does the Lord say in His Law? You shall not murder, And what does Islam say? That you shall kill, murder, and turn people into suicide bombers so that you can go to heaven. And you want the entire world to agree with Islam and become like you?
Islam has tried hard to kill the Jews and Christians but we are still here. And we will survive against our enemies who want to swallow us alive because it is written: Ps 126:2-6
Then our mouth was filled with laughter
And our tongue with joyful shouting;
Then they said among the nations,
“The LORD has done great things for them.”
3 The LORD has done great things for us;
We are glad.

4 Restore our captivity, O LORD,
As the streams in the South.
5 Those who sow in tears shall reap with joyful shouting.
6 He who goes to and fro weeping, carrying his bag of seed,
Shall indeed come again with a shout of joy, bringing his sheaves with him.
NASU
I came to faith in Christ through reading the Bible. Lets read about Him.
Isa 53

Who has believed our message?And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? 2 For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,And like a root out of parched ground;He has no stately form or majesty That we should look upon Him,Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him. 3 He was despised and forsaken of men,A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;And like one from whom men hide their face He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4 Surely our griefs He Himself bore,And our sorrows He carried;Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions,He was crushed for our iniquities;The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,And by His scourging we are healed. 6 All of us like sheep have gone astray,Each of us has turned to his own way;But the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all To fall on Him.
7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,Yet He did not open His mouth; Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,So He did not open His mouth. 8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away;And as for His generation, who considered That He was cut off out of the land of the living For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due? 9 His grave was assigned with wicked men,Yet He was with a rich man in His death, Because He had done no violence,Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
10 But the LORD was pleased To crush Him, putting Him to grief;If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,He will seeHis offspring,He will prolong His days,And the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand. 11 As a result of the anguish of His soul,He will seeit and be satisfied;By His knowledge the Righteous One,My Servant, will justify the many,As He will bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,And He will divide the booty with the strong;Because He poured out Himself to death,And was numbered with the transgressors;Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,And interceded for the transgressors.
NASU

 

[DLC]

Many people have come to faith in Christ. There are Jewish Christians, Rabbis, and even Muslims who have read the Word of God and found Jesus as their Savior. Christian never go to people and say, ‘You must believe in Christ!’ No. Only God can help people believe. So we speak to people as friends and step by step we help them understand the truth. Muslims must read the Bible and see for themselves where truth lies. Only in such a way can our Muslim friends know the Lord. I pray that in time they too will come to know and believe in Christ as their own Savior. Then they will have peace and will worship the God who loves them.

 

[Angelos]

**Illicit sex is no crime in the christian countries. Ladies are not required to tell the name of the father of their babies. Nobody can ask them. They get (one year) paid holidays to produce children. There is no need to marry until they get a child first.

Such things are going on. But nobody cares. Nobody asks christians. **

Adultery is no crime or sin in Islam. Mohammad encouraged fornication and adultery through his verses allowing polygamy. He also committed adultery when he got his adopted son’s wife.

 

[planten]

Many people have come to faith in Christ. There are Jewish Christians, Rabbis, and even Muslims who have read the Word of God and found Jesus as their Savior. Christian never go to people and say, ‘You must believe in Christ!’ No. Only God can help people believe. So we speak to people as friends and step by step we help them understand the truth. Muslims must read the Bible and see for themselves where truth lies. Only in such a way can our Muslim friends know the Lord. I pray that in time they too will come to know and believe in Christ as their own Savior. Then they will have peace and will worship the God who loves them.

**I am a witness. Th echristian do not say to convert.But the first thing they said was “Just utter the name of Jesus and you will be saved”. What an easy formula to enter heavens.!!!

You have spread misinformation about Islam in your previous posts. That Islam teaches killing. Islam does not teach to kill any peaceful innocent person of any faith. That is the truth and I wish that you please repeat that in clear words to absolve yourself from previous mistake. Thanks. Otherwise you have no religion.

**

 

[planten]

Adultery is no crime or sin in Islam. Mohammad encouraged fornication and adultery through his verses allowing polygamy. He also committed adultery when he got his adopted son’s wife.

And who are the ancestors of Jesus mentioned in the genes of Jesus. Some sure bad elements. One of them was begotten by a father in law by committing adultry with his own daughter in law.

 

[dzheremi]

When does a Christian say “just utter the name of Jesus and you will be saved”? What are you talking about? I’ve never heard any Christian say that. I’ve said on this very forum that I would like Muslims to convert. I’ll say it again since you apparently missed it: I would like you and all Muslims to convert to Christianity. True, apostolic Christianity. I don’t think it will happen, but I’m not going to say you shouldn’t do it!

Just uttering the name of Jesus does not save anyone. Matthew 7:21-23 makes it very clear that we must do the will of the Father, not merely call out Jesus’ name. It matters what we do, not merely what we say.

 

[planten]

When does a Christian say “just utter the name of Jesus and you will be saved”? What are you talking about? I’ve never heard any Christian say that. I’ve said on this very forum that I would like Muslims to convert. I’ll say it again since you apparently missed it: I would like you and all Muslims to convert to Christianity. True, apostolic Christianity. I don’t think it will happen, but I’m not going to say you shouldn’t do it!

Just uttering the name of Jesus does not save anyone. Matthew 7:21-23 makes it very clear that we must do the will of the Father, not merely call out Jesus’ name. It matters what we do, not merely what we say.

** I am sure i was told that I utter the name of Jesus I will be saved. That was probably Salvation Army or some other chaps or Hide Park corner, London christian speakers. May have been ignorants. I will not press the point now.**

 

[Angelos]

And who are the ancestors of Jesus mentioned in the genes of Jesus. Some sure bad elements. One of them was begotten by a father in law by committing adultry with his own daughter in law.

This is all you can do, dear planten. Comparing a few sinners to your messenger. I would do the same if I followed a messenger who considered sinning a prerogative bestowed on him by his supposed prophetic ministry.

I follow Jesus the Savior, who took flesh to save and forgive the sinners on earth, even the ones in His genealogy.

 

[dolphinlove]

** I am sure i was told that I utter the name of Jesus I will be saved. That was probably Salvation Army or some other chaps or Hide Park corner, London christian speakers. May have been ignorants. I will not press the point now.**

Have you even been to England?? Have you even been to HYDE park?? Have you stepped outside your own borders to even know what a western country is like?
I actually live in one of these places you call a ‘western’ country and can tell you now, your ideas of what you think the western society is nothing like what you think it is.
If anyone is ignorant dear planten it is your ideologies. There are MANY good Christians in the western world. You just need to step outside your little box and come up for some fresh air!

 

[Nickkname]

More contractions found in the Koran

Surah 2:62 - “Verily, those who have attained to faith, as well as those who follow the Jewish faith, and the Christians, and the Sabians – all who believe in God and the Last Day and do righteous deeds – shall have their reward with their Sustainer; and no fear need they have, and neither shall they grieve.”

Surah 2:111 - “And they claim, “None shall ever enter paradise unless he be a Jew” – or, “a Christian”. Such are their wishful beliefs! Say: “Produce an evidence for what you are claiming, if what you say is true! Yea, indeed: everyone who surrenders his whole being to God, and is a doer of good withal, shall have his reward with his Sustainer; and all such need have no fear, and neither shall they grieve.”

So in the first surah Christians, Jews, and Sabians, who believe in God, have God as their Sustainer, yet in the next surah, Christians and Jews do not have God as their Sustainer and must submit to Him, i.e., they must become Muslim. And while I don’t know Jews’ understanding of salvation, I know for a fact that we Christians do not say those who aren’t Christian don’t go to Heaven. In fact, here is what the Church teaches about those who are outside of the Church (taken directly from the Catechism):

“Outside the Church there is no salvation”

846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.337

848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."338

335 Cf. Cyprian, Ep. 73.21: PL 3, 1169; De unit.: PL 4, 509-536.

336 LG 14; cf. ⇒ Mk 16:16; ⇒ Jn 3:5[ETML:C/].

337 LG 16; cf. DS 3866-3872.

338 AG 7; cf. ⇒ Heb 11:6; ⇒ 1 Cor 9:16.

 

[R_not]

**Illicit sex is no crime in the christian countries. Ladies are not required to tell the name of the father of their babies. Nobody can ask them. They get (one year) paid holidays to produce children. There is no need to marry until they get a child first.

Such things are going on. But nobody cares. Nobody asks christians. **

of all the atrocities that are involved with slavery - the cutting off of the little boy’s genitalia, the rape of girls/women, the forced conversions, etc - and the only thing you worry about is some people’s bad behavior.

While muslims even have a heaven that is all about an orgy of raping virgins and that includes little boys.

Of all the atrocities that are associated with sharia law against non-muslims - killing, stealing from, raping, enslaving, kidnapping, etc - and all you worry about is some bad behavior by some people. Like muslims don’t do the same! Oh, they do - they just call it polygamy - and they can dump a wife and then take another - or even marry a woman for a day and then divorce her. the difference being is that you can dump her and any kids that may result from the encounter and just walk away. It is ok - because you are a male and males are not held accountable for their poor behavior in islam.

 

[R_not]

Hey, if you redefine sin then maybe you can be perfect! that is what mohammed did. you can do what you want to non-muslims, and women (just don’t get caught or say it was an ‘honor killing’), and make sure to make the laws so as no muslims get punished for those deeds - then you can be a perfect man.

So, what is sin in islam? to not do shirk and to follow halal and haram - basically what mohammed redefined sin to be.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Establishing Prayer… Even in Eid?

Q. Bijorin - Austria

Why do Muslims have this Eid (Feast) immediately after Ramadan? They keep fasting and praying long prayers for a whole month… and then… after they are done with that… they do not go and have fun… they go to pray… even in their feast!!!

Why do you make prayers in your Eid? What is the wisdom of that prayer?? You worship even in your fun time?!

Name of Counselor : Shahul Hameed

…What is really your concern here is that Muslims pray even in the midst of celebration, or “fun”!

To many people, especially in the West, the word “fun” evokes, for instance, the colorful images of the world’s biggest and grandest carnival in Rio de Janeiro or the Mardi Gras in New Orleans. They may also think of the wild revelries and partying they have during other festivals and fiestas throughout the world.

…The Muslim fast itself may be viewed by others as a little too harsh. But we can see that the fast referred to by Jesus in the Gospels must have been as “severe” as the Muslim fast (Matthew 6:16–18).

As Islam declares itself to be the latest and the most finalized form of the same message and religion taught by all prophets, including Jesus, this is not surprising.

God commands that after a month of rigorous fast, the believers can rejoice and celebrate. But mind you, we should never ever forget God and His blessings.

This is because the core of a Muslim’s life is devotion to God and eagerness to obey and show gratitude to Him.

For this reason, the core of the Eid celebration is prayer! All the festivities on the occasion are subordinated to the grateful remembrance of God…

…The salah or the five ritual Prayers a day are meant to keep the remembrance of God. The exact Qur’anic command is not just ‘pray’, but ‘establish prayer’, which suggests, among other things, that no human activity is exempt from the remembrance of God.

…All activities of a Muslim, therefore are bound to be God-directed; and a Muslim should like to spend every moment of his life in prayer, if possible. That is due to the fact that he believes that this life is transient and his real destination is the eternal abode in the hereafter.

So, fun time is also prayer time, though it may sound… funny!

Useful Links:

A Day of Celebration: Idris Tawfiq’s First Eid

Celebrations and Prayers

Muslims and Fun: Culture or Religion?

Fun and Celebrations in Islam

readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996015846&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam%2FAskAboutIslamE%2FAskAboutIslamE

 

[planten]

Have you even been to England?? Have you even been to HYDE park?? Have you stepped outside your own borders to even know what a western country is like?
I actually live in one of these places you call a ‘western’ country and can tell you now, your ideas of what you think the western society is nothing like what you think it is.
If anyone is ignorant dear planten it is your ideologies. There are MANY good Christians in the western world. You just need to step outside your little box and come up for some fresh air!

**Do not doubt anything. What I wrote is perfectly true. You are disturbed by the very bad behaviour of your people (booza, sex and gamble) and you are somehow trying to avoid the issue.

One of my friends got tired walking the streets of Paris. So he sat down on a bench on Camps de Eleyse. Very soon some gay arrived to make a deal with my friend. Do you understand DiL?

And the naked ladies standing in the streets (just one or two streets) are enough proof of the christian dominated society. It is free for all there. In hyde Park, London, police sergeants keep close look on any couple meeting and mating behind park corner at night.

Then they follow them to any place they go. If the gentleman pays any money or pays for the food of the lady, they challan him and he has to appear in the court next day. The news is published in the “News of the World” next day.

You may be having better information of your christian world. What I said is also not wrong. It is better to admit your failures DiL. And do not disown your people.Otherwise there will be very few christians in the world.**

 

[planten]

This is all you can do, dear planten. Comparing a few sinners to your messenger. I would do the same if I followed a messenger who considered sinning a prerogative bestowed on him by his supposed prophetic ministry.

I follow Jesus the Savior, who took flesh to save and forgive the sinners on earth, even the ones in His genealogy.

**Angelos, those few sinners are very important as the known ancestors of Jesus, according to bible.That is the problem. You have admitted they had been sinners. Thanks for that.

You accused Muhammad but did not look in your own backyard about the ancestors of Jesus. By That you have disturbed many christians on this forum. You said that you were not Catholic. Then what faith are you? Catholic means faithful. So you are unfaithful ( to Jesus)?
**

 

[R_not]

Salaam/peace

Establishing Prayer… Even in Eid?

Q. Bijorin - Austria

Why do Muslims have this Eid (Feast) immediately after Ramadan? They keep fasting and praying long prayers for a whole month… and then… after they are done with that… they do not go and have fun… they go to pray… even in their feast!!!

Why do you make prayers in your Eid? What is the wisdom of that prayer?? You worship even in your fun time?!

Name of Counselor : Shahul Hameed

…What is really your concern here is that Muslims pray even in the midst of celebration, or “fun”!

To many people, especially in the West, the word “fun” evokes, for instance, the colorful images of the world’s biggest and grandest carnival in Rio de Janeiro or the Mardi Gras in New Orleans. They may also think of the wild revelries and partying they have during other festivals and fiestas throughout the world.

…The Muslim fast itself may be viewed by others as a little too harsh. But we can see that the fast referred to by Jesus in the Gospels must have been as “severe” as the Muslim fast (Matthew 6:16–18).

As Islam declares itself to be the latest and the most finalized form of the same message and religion taught by all prophets, including Jesus, this is not surprising.

God commands that after a month of rigorous fast, the believers can rejoice and celebrate. But mind you, we should never ever forget God and His blessings.

This is because the core of a Muslim’s life is devotion to God and eagerness to obey and show gratitude to Him.

For this reason, the core of the Eid celebration is prayer! All the festivities on the occasion are subordinated to the grateful remembrance of God…

…The salah or the five ritual Prayers a day are meant to keep the remembrance of God. The exact Qur’anic command is not just ‘pray’, but ‘establish prayer’, which suggests, among other things, that no human activity is exempt from the remembrance of God.

…All activities of a Muslim, therefore are bound to be God-directed; and a Muslim should like to spend every moment of his life in prayer, if possible. That is due to the fact that he believes that this life is transient and his real destination is the eternal abode in the hereafter.

So, fun time is also prayer time, though it may sound… funny!

Useful Links:

A Day of Celebration: Idris Tawfiq’s First Eid

Celebrations and Prayers

Muslims and Fun: Culture or Religion?

Fun and Celebrations in Islam

readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996015846&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam%2FAskAboutIslamE%2FAskAboutIslamE

the only time I see muslims dancing and ulalating is when one of theirs kills non-muslims. We got a lot of them on tape celebrating, and they showed them on the news after 9/11. Or we also see that in the Gaza when their kids are blown up trying to, or succeeding in, killing others.

So, yes muslims do celebrate.

 

[R_not]

**Do not doubt anything. What I wrote is perfectly true. You are disturbed by the very bad behaviour of your people (booza, sex and gamble) and you are somehow trying to avoid the issue.

One of my friends got tired walking the streets of Paris. So he sat down on a bench on Camps de Eleyse. Very soon some gay arrived to make a deal with my friend. Do you understand DiL?

And the naked ladies standing in the streets (just one or two streets) are enough proof of the christian dominated society. It is free for all there. In hyde Park, London, police sergeants keep close look on any couple meeting and mating behind park corner at night.

Then they follow them to any place they go. If the gentleman pays any money or pays for the food of the lady, they challan him and he has to appear in the court next day. The news is published in the “News of the World” next day.

You may be having better information of your christian world. What I said is also not wrong. It is better to admit your failures DiL. And do not disown your people.Otherwise there will be very few christians in the world.**

You know you are exaggerating - ‘naked’ in a muslim’s mind is any woman not wearing a tent. And that is because they are unable to behave correctly, or think correctly, and never want to be held accountable for bad behavior!

I also would like to point out is that you didn’t get killed in Paris, and you were allowed to be in Paris, even though you are a muslim. I would bet no one bothered you. But that, of course, never occurred to you - instead you think that others should be subjugated to you and you should dictate to them what they should wear and behave like. What arrogance.

That same courtesy is not given to others in muslim lands - or even in muslim neighborhoods in France. The crimes against non-muslims by muslims have skyrocketed all over Europe especially in the majority muslim slums.