Ask about Islam

[R_not]

But a Muslimah cannot marry a Christian man or a Jew. Why the double-standards and how is this supposed to respect the status of women in Islam?

But a Muslim woman cannot marry a Christian man or a Jew. Even if she was a virtuous Muslim, she is not allowed to make her own decision to marry someone outside her faith “because it is the law of the Qur’an”. To a Berber, this may sound justified - but not to anyone living in the 21st, 22nd, 23rd century and onwards. I doubt anyone in the 7th century would have agreed with the laws of the Qur’an either, unless he/she was “coerced” into it - as you have.

Because islam is not about love. It is about producing as many muslims as it can. And if a muslim woman marries anyone except a muslim man there is a danger she might become enlightened and stray from islam. The reverse also happens, but for some reason they think it is more likely that women are weaker - gee, go figure! Their whole premise is that women are the weaker ones, especially in the head.

When the number of muslims increase in a land the more likely the violence gets worse in order to achieve their goals - death, conversion and/or subjugation - happens faster.

Look at the UK now, they are so happy that sharia law has been incorporated that the muslims there have formed a group called Islam4UK and are preaching that they should now become violent:

Islam4UK: Hate on our Streets

U.K.: Jihadist threat “approaching critical” level

The thing is that this wouldn’t even be an issue if the number of muslims were much smaller and they didn’t feel that they could get away with it. Of course, after an attack the so called ‘moderates’ will claim they are the victims!

We are basically dealing with the brainwashed in an idiology that is ‘either you are with us or you are against us’. the idea of love doesn’t ever enter the picture in islam.

 

[modern_disciple]

How can you be sure that God revealed something to Muhammad?

Quran was just written by a single ordinary person unlike the Bible who was compiled from different writers all throughout the years.

 

[Analyzer]

Quran was just written by a single ordinary person unlike the Bible who was compiled from different writers all throughout the years.

**Good question.

The Holy Quran was REVEALED by God Almighty to the Last one of His choosen Prophets/Messengers of God (pbuh). Like how God Almighty once gave His Commandents to His Prophet Moses (pbuh). Were those Commmandments given to all Jews individually/so many writers?

Whereas, the various Holy Bibles that you have ( which are all contradictory and inconsistent in many places) are story telling books compiled by mostly UNKNOWN writers. They are still UNKNOWN to your Bible experts let alone people like Angeles or other Christian posters of this forum.

Lastly, true Jews and the true followers of Jesus Christ went through persecutions and troubles so many times and during these troubles their scrupitures were burned down and sometimes Christians themselves discarded there scriptures (due to their own specific reasons)…then later they tried to gather them out of memory and form here and there/hearsay. Neither Jews nor Christians had the tradition of memorization of the Revelation of God word by word.

Then in the 4th century (looong after Jesus and his diciples when the faith preached by Jesus was already re-named in Antioch and known as ‘Christianity’) was Pualinized and it pose no real threat to secular/un-Godly rule (thanks to Saul/Paul), some books (out of so many in circulation among the people of that time) were “cononised” but without giving any reason on what ground only those books are allowed as holy.

A mojority of NT’s books are of Saul/Paul. The sayings of Jesus are not more than 10 percent. Saul/Paul’s teachings are opposite to Jesus’ sayings if you examine closely. So Christiandom is basically following Saul/Paul and not even the 10% sayings of Jesus found in their so-called gospels.**

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

How can you be sure that God revealed something to Muhammad?

THE AMAZING QUR’AN

Dr. Gary Miller ( ex Christian)

An Encounter with a Minister

cyberistan.org/islamic/amazingq.htm

 

[modern_disciple]

How do you perceive the obra maestra of a sketch where mohamad wore a bomb-inspired turban whatsoever in his head by a Danish cartoonist?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

How do you perceive the obra maestra of a sketch where mohamad wore a bomb-inspired turban whatsoever in his head by a Danish cartoonist?

Muslims respect all the Prophets , not only Muhammed (p). We don’t use any nasty word about any Prophet or spread lie & hatred against any Prophet .

It’s unfortunate that in the name of free press , western media & non-Muslims regularly bash the last Prophet & they ask , why Muslims don’t like us ?

 

[modern_disciple]

Salaam/peace

Muslims respect all the Prophets , not only Muhammed (p). We don’t use any nasty word about any Prophet or spread lie & hatred against any Prophet .

It’s unfortunate that in the name of free press , western media & non-Muslims regularly bash the last Prophet & they ask , why Muslims don’t like us ?

but why do you kill non-Muslims in the name of your god?

 

[Angelos]

**Good question.

The Holy Quran was REVEALED by God Almighty to the Last one of His choosen Prophets/Messengers of God (pbuh). Like how God Almighty once gave His Commandents to His Prophet Moses (pbuh). Were those Commmandments given to all Jews individually/so many writers?

Whereas, the various Holy Bibles that you have ( which are all contradictory and inconsistent in many places) are story telling books compiled by mostly UNKNOWN writers. They are still UNKNOWN to your Bible experts let alone people like Angeles or other Christian posters of this forum.

Lastly, true Jews and the true followers of Jesus Christ went through persecutions and troubles so many times and during these troubles their scrupitures were burned down and sometimes Christians themselves discarded there scriptures (due to their own specific reasons)…then later they tried to gather them out of memory and form here and there/hearsay. Neither Jews nor Christians had the tradition of memorization of the Revelation of God word by word.

Then in the 4th century (looong after Jesus and his diciples when the faith preached by Jesus was already re-named in Antioch and known as ‘Christianity’) was Pualinized and it pose no real threat to secular/un-Godly rule (thanks to Saul/Paul), some books (out of so many in circulation among the people of that time) were “cononised” but without giving any reason on what ground only those books are allowed as holy.

A mojority of NT’s books are of Saul/Paul. The sayings of Jesus are not more than 10 percent. Saul/Paul’s teachings are opposite to Jesus’ sayings if you examine closely. So Christiandom is basically following Saul/Paul and not even the 10% sayings of Jesus found in their so-called gospels.**

The Holy Bible is the inspired Word of God. When the eternal and uncreated Wisdom/Word of God took flesh and dwellt among us, the mankind could receive truth and grace through faith in Christ. Christ appeared at the appointed time tıo save mankind and give them eternal life. He accomplished His mission on earth and made everything perfect. Before going back to His Father, Christ Jesus established His Church and promised that His message would always prevail. He also sent His Holy Spirit to strengthen and guide His disciples after His bodily departure from this world.

Since Jesus, as the source of righteousness and truth, cannot tell lies and since He is faithful to His promises, it is impossible and unthinkable for His message to be corrupted or changed. Jesus preserves His Gospel against those who hate His truth as well as against the pagan false prophet of Islam, who hated Christ and Church and aimed to distort Christ’s teachings through a fake book he himself got written and falsely ascribed to God almighty.

 

[Analyzer]

The Holy Bible is the inspired Word of God.

**All four gospels (written by unknown people and were canonised in the 4th century) are story-telling/biographical type books. They are not inspired Word of God.

God doesn’t inspire contradictory statements and inconsistencies, as we find in all these four gospels.**

When the eternal and uncreated Wisdom/Word of God took flesh and dwellt among us, the mankind could receive truth and grace through faith in Christ. …

**
All these are claims of your Church / an outcome of Saul/Paul’s teachings and nothing to do with what Jesus taught in those mere 10% sayings found in all four story-telling books (known as Gospel According to** Matthew, Mark, Luke and John)

Jesus is free from what you/your Chruch believe/preach and attribute to him in his absence.

Since Jesus, as the source of righteousness and truth, cannot tell lies and since He is faithful to His promises, it is impossible and unthinkable for His message to be corrupted or changed.

**But where is Jesus’ actual message in his own mother-tongue to begin with, in the first place?

Do you have a Gospel by the name “Gospel of Jesus” dictated/ by Jesus in his native mother-language and then was memorized word by word by his disciples first/ or first close generation and then spread out collectively? No.

All you have is in Greek coming from unknown writers written loong after Jesus. And two out of these unknown writers don’t even know what word Jesus used to call his God when he cried-out on the Cross, let alone all other important details. Did he say ELI in Hebrew or ELOI in Aramaic?

If these writers’ words were inspired by God or Holy Ghost, then howcome Holy Ghost or God doesn’t know what word His own beloved “only begotten” son used when he was commiting suicide to save your sins?

Because to you, Jesus must die and must die as God as well and obviously it must be a willfull and happy death. If so, then to you, Jesus committed suicide. If you say no, then there was no such plan to “save” you by dying.

You are believing in TWO different opposite things at the same time then think you are making sense. This type of strange belief can be adopted through brain-washing since childhood only. The you have an another BIG DILEMMA of Trinity which exist only in the irrational minds of people like you.

**

 

[Angelos]

**All four gospels (written by unknown people and were canonised in the 4th century) are story-telling/biographical type books. They are not inspired Word of God.

God doesn’t inspire contradictory statements and inconsistencies, as we find in all these four gospels.**

The Koran was fabricated by your pagan prophet’s scribes, who adopted (for perversion) many things from the Bible as well as from Jewish fables and Christian apocryphal literature. Even your pagan prophet’s folk said that he copied from ancient fables and legends. The Koran is neither inspired nor revealed. It was devised by men and falsely attributed to God.

**
All these are claims of your Church / an outcome of Saul/Paul’s teachings and nothing to do with what Jesus taught in those mere 10% sayings found in all four story-telling books (known as Gospel According to** Matthew, Mark, Luke and John)

Jesus is free from what you/your Chruch believe/preach and attribute to him in his absence.

All these silly claims come from the fabricated book of your pagan prophet. Since your pagan prophet got his scribes to work his false teachings into a book six hundred years after Christ, the things written there are neither reliable nor accurate. Only 5% truth can be found in the accounts of Jesus’ nativity, which your pagan prophet stole from the apocryphal Gospels.

Jesus is free from what you and your pagan prophet ascribe to Him. He is not a pathetic and inept (defeated) messenger as your scripture supposes!

**
But where is Jesus’ actual message in his own mother-tongue to begin with, in the first place?**

Since the Koran was devised in Arabic, it is impossible for it to contain reliable information about Jesus, who spoke Hebrew and Aramaic. Jesus was not an Arab, nor did He speak Arabic to God almighty as your false scripture supposes!

**
Do you have a Gospel by the name “Gospel of Jesus” dictated/ by Jesus in his native mother-language and then was memorized word by word by his disciples first/ or first close generation and then spread out collectively? No.**

The Koran fails to prove that a book named Injeel was given to Jesus. The assumption that Jesus was revealed a book can never be proven as it has no historic evidence without the Koran, which was not endorsed by your pagan prophet! Today’s Koran does not have the seal or signature of confirmation!

Muslims always assert that the Koran verses were memorised by Muslims. However, the textual variations and mistakes in the Koran illustrate how early Muslims suffered from short memory and recited contradictory and erroneous accounts!

**
All you have is in Greek coming from unknown writers written loong after Jesus. And two out of these unknown writers don’t even know what word Jesus used to call his God when he cried-out on the Cross, let alone all other important details. Did he say ELI in Hebrew or ELOI in Aramaic? **

You have only the Koran to support your silly and baseless allegations about Jesus and his message! The Koran contends that God gave Jesus (Hebrew) a book with a Greek name (Injeel: Evangelion) and Jesus predicted the coming of a prophet with a name/title in Arabic (Ahmad)!

 

[Angelos]

**
If these writers’ words were inspired by God or Holy Ghost, then howcome Holy Ghost or God doesn’t know what word His own beloved “only begotten” son used when he was commiting suicide to save your sins?**

If the Koran had been revealed by God, it would not have denied Jesus’ crucifixion with the help of a Gnostic heresy. How come almighty God does not know anything about Jesus’ death and how come the same almighty God says He is obliged to deceive Jews through a supposed miracle of illusion while saving Jesus!

**
Because to you, Jesus must die and must die as God as well and obviously it must be a willfull and happy death. If so, then to you, Jesus committed suicide. If you say no, then there was no such plan to “save” you by dying.**

Because to you, God is deceitful and inconsistent. He did nothing to prevent the death of His prophets prior to Jesus, but later changed His mind and resorted to tricky games to satisfy His ego.

**
You are believing in TWO different opposite things at the same time then think you are making sense. This type of strange belief can be adopted through brain-washing since childhood only. The you have an another BIG DILEMMA of Trinity which exist only in the irrational minds of people like you.
**

Your pagan prophet believed in TWO opposite things at the same time, then thought he made sense. He claimed that God gave him his book to confirm the previous revelations, but he also claimed that his teachings were true when they apparently contradicted and denied the teachings of the former revelations. He could not decide why he was supposedly given a book! Muslims are commanded to believe in the former revelations which definitely prove their pagan prophet a liar. How irrational indeed! You and your pagan prophet’s DILEMMA!

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

but why do you kill non-Muslims in the name of your god?

killing innocent person is a major sin in Islam & punishment is hell fire.

RELIGION : By Dr. Zakir Naik

…Don’t judge a car by its driver:

If you want to judge how good is the latest model of the Mercedes and a person who does not know how to drive sits on the steering wheel and bangs up the car, who will you blame? The car or the driver?

But naturally the driver. To analyze how good the car is, a person should not look at the driver but see the ability and features of the car. How fast is it, what is its average fuel consumption, what are the safety measures, etc.

Even if I agree for the sake of argument that the Muslims are bad, don’t judge a car by its driver! Don’t judge Islam by its followers. If you want to judge how good Islam is then judge it according to its authentic sources, i.e. the Glorious Qur’an and the Sahih Hadith.

1. Judge Islam by its best follower i.e. Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh)

If you practically want to check how good a car is put an expert driver behind the steering wheel. Similarly the best and the most exemplary follower of Islam by whom you can check how good Islam is the last and final Messenger of God, Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh).

Besides Muslims, there are several honest and unbiased non-Muslim historians who have acclaimed that prophet Muhammad was the best human being. According to Michael H. Hart who wrote the book, ‘The Hundred Most Influential Men in History’, the topmost position, i.e. the number one position goes to the beloved Prophet of Islam, Muhammad (Pbuh).

There are several such examples of non-Muslims paying great tributes to the prophet, like Thomas Carlyle, La-Martine, etc.

islamicvoice.com/june.99/zakir.htm

 

[R_not]

Salaam/peace

Muslims respect all the Prophets , not only Muhammed (p). We don’t use any nasty word about any Prophet or spread lie & hatred against any Prophet .

It’s unfortunate that in the name of free press , western media & non-Muslims regularly bash the last Prophet & they ask , why Muslims don’t like us ?

It is ok to kill non-muslims though - just don’t draw a cartoon! And it is not true that muslims do not bash others, it is found in their own koran the bashing of Jews and Christians and the telling muslims to kill them if they don’t buy the gobbledegook of islam.

here are only about .01% of the nastiness against others:

Qur’an 2:64 “But you [Jews] went back on your word and were lost losers. So become apes, despised and hated. We made an example out of you.”

Ishaq:240 “The Jews are a nation of liars… The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people.”

Qur’an 33:26 “Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before.”

Ishaq:250 “The bestial transformation occurred when Allah turned Jews into apes, despised.”

Qur’an 59:14 “The Jews are devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so they will end up in Hell.”

Ishaq:254
Qur’an 2:96 “We will not remove a Jew from the punishment. They know the shameful thing that awaits them.”

Qur’an 4:55 “Sufficient for the Jew is the Flaming Fire!”

Qur’an 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), (even if they are) People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low.” [Another translation says:] “pay the tax in acknowledgment of our superiority and their state of subjection.”
etc etc etc the koran and hadiths are full of this stuff.

 

[R_not]

Salaam/peace

killing innocent person is a major sin in Islam & punishment is hell fire.

RELIGION : By Dr. Zakir Naik

…Don’t judge a car by its driver:

If you want to judge how good is the latest model of the Mercedes and a person who does not know how to drive sits on the steering wheel and bangs up the car, who will you blame? The car or the driver?

But naturally the driver. To analyze how good the car is, a person should not look at the driver but see the ability and features of the car. How fast is it, what is its average fuel consumption, what are the safety measures, etc.

Even if I agree for the sake of argument that the Muslims are bad, don’t judge a car by its driver! Don’t judge Islam by its followers. If you want to judge how good Islam is then judge it according to its authentic sources, i.e. the Glorious Qur’an and the Sahih Hadith.

1. Judge Islam by its best follower i.e. Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh)

If you practically want to check how good a car is put an expert driver behind the steering wheel. Similarly the best and the most exemplary follower of Islam by whom you can check how good Islam is the last and final Messenger of God, Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh).

Besides Muslims, there are several honest and unbiased non-Muslim historians who have acclaimed that prophet Muhammad was the best human being. According to Michael H. Hart who wrote the book, ‘The Hundred Most Influential Men in History’, the topmost position, i.e. the number one position goes to the beloved Prophet of Islam, Muhammad (Pbuh).

There are several such examples of non-Muslims paying great tributes to the prophet, like Thomas Carlyle, La-Martine, etc.

islamicvoice.com/june.99/zakir.htm

But I do judge islam by its texts - the koran and hadiths! And you have a problem with that! I quote all the koran and hadiths to show everyone what it really is! And yes, we should indeed see how islam is practiced by how the ‘moderates’ do nothing but accept jihadists by their inaction. They certainly do something when there is a cartoon made!!! So we do know that they can do something.

And by their sharia laws - the laws in lands where human atrocities abound. There is no law to protect the non-muslim. All the kumbaya is only for muslims - if one is a non-muslim then that means their girl children can be kidnapped and forced to convert and/or marry or just be enslaved, killed, lied to, stolen from, beaten if they do not behave in some way that a muslim tells them to behave, etc.

And for someone to say that mohammed was one of the most influential people in history doesn’t mean that it was a good thing. Hitler was also influential as was Stalin, Mao, Che, and other characters. that didn’t make them good either just by saying they are influential.

 

[cathopologist]

God doesn’t inspire contradictory statements and inconsistencies, as we find in all these four gospels.

The Gospels are infallible in its teachings and is consistent even in terms of archeological and historical facts. I have read the Qur’an and honestly, i wished it made more sense. I found it to be very unintelligible and unethical in some parts.

I used to despise Christians you know. Until the Holy Spirit gave me a wake up call many years ago. Do some justice to your username and really analyze your current beliefs, before you even attempt to debate with Catholics.

Catholicism is for intellects. Despite that, Catholics know not to question God’s capability to perform miracles, even if He has to make Himself a Man. Islam on the other hand, limits God’s capabilities because one illiterate man thought he knew God better. I feel sorry for him.

 

[R_not]

I have brought up several topics that muslims don’t want to talk about that is in islam, their prophet practiced and sanctioned and that muslims to this very day practice, such as slavery, the despicable deeds done to non-muslims - lying, stealing, raping, beating, torturing and killing - and several other things that are in the koran and hadiths.

Today I would like to bring up muslim sins. I have brought this up since mohammed sinned against almost all of the 10 commandments - he had to redefine sin.

here is the first of what is considered sin in islam:

It seems mohammed hated farts!

1. Volume 1, Book 4, Number 137:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Apostle said, “The prayer of a person who does ,Hadath (passes, urine, stool or wind) is not accepted till he performs (repeats) the ablution.” A person from Hadaramout asked Abu Huraira, “What is ‘Hadath’?” Abu Huraira replied, " ‘Hadath’ means the passing of wind from the anus."

Note: Ritualistic cleaning is necessary after farting.

1. Volume 1, Book 4, Number 139:

Narrated 'Abbas bin Tamim:

My uncle asked Allah’s Apostle about a person who imagined to have passed wind during the prayer. Allah’ Apostle replied: “He should not leave his prayers unless he hears sound or smells something.”

Volume 1, Book 4, Number 177:

Narrated 'Abbas bin Tamim:

My uncle said: The Prophet said, “One should not leave his prayer unless he hears sound or smells something.”

Note: It’s OK to stop praying when someone farts!

1. Volume 1, Book 11, Number 628:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Apostle said, “The angels keep on asking for Allah’s Blessing and Forgiveness for anyone of you as long as he is at his Musalla (praying place) and does not do Hadath (passes wind). The angels say, ‘O Allah! Forgive him and be Merciful to him.’ Each one of you is in the prayer as long as he is waiting for the prayer and nothing but the prayer detains him from going to his family.”

Note: Angels will stop interceding on your behalf if you fart.

1. Volume 3, Book 34, Number 330:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah’s Apostle said, “The congregational prayer of anyone amongst you is more than twenty (five or twenty seven) times in reward than his prayer in the market or in his house, for if he performs ablution completely and then goes to the mosque with the sole intention of performing the prayer, and nothing urges him to proceed to the mosque except the prayer, then, on every step which he takes towards the mosque, he will be raised one degree or one of his sins will be forgiven. The angels will keep on asking Allah’s forgiveness and blessings for everyone of you so long as he keeps sitting at his praying place. The angels will say, ‘O Allah, bless him! O Allah, be merciful to him!’ as long as he does not do Hadath or a thing which gives trouble to the other.” The Prophet further said, “One is regarded in prayer so long as one is waiting for the prayer.”

Note: All spiritual blessings are lost if you fart.

1. Volume 9, Book 86, Number 86:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, “Allah does not accept prayer of anyone of you if he does Hadath (passes wind) till he performs the ablution (anew).”

Note: You will not be forgiven if you fart.

Wow!!! So, killing and raping and beating up and lying to non-muslims is a-ok - just don’t fart!

Basically ‘sin’ in islam is anything mohammed hated.

 

[rikkk1958]

Angelos, it seems that nobody is interested in helping me understand the quran.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Let’s start with the Cow. Why a Cow?

during the time of Prophet Musa/ Moses (p) , jews started worshipping a cow . This surah/ chapter described about that shirk/blasphemy.

Alif Lam Mim. What is this?

The individual letters in the beginning of some Surahs are among those things whose knowledge Allah has kept only for Himself.

tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=2&tid=670

(what unseen?)

God , angels , hell , heaven etc.

spend out (?)

giving zakat ( poor due) once a year is a must. Besides this compulsory charity , additional charity is encouraged to remove sins & get rewards.

what we(who are the we?)

God Almighty.

a related link

Why does Allah the Lord use the word “We” to refer to Himself?
by Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi

islam101.com/tauheed/AllahWE.htm

 

[rikkk1958]

OKAY, now muslim woman replied to my post so let me try to understand this well.
Let’s start with the Cow. Why a Cow?
She said that the Cow was worshiped by the Israelites. This means the quran was referring to the story in the Bible, I will take this because it was true
“2.1”: Alif Lam Mim. What is this?
She said that only God knows the meaning.

“2.2”: This Book, there is no doubt in it, is a guide to those who guard (against evil).
So this book is purely to guard against evil? She did not reply on this perhaps it is correct.

“2.3”: Those who believe in the unseen and keep up prayer and spend out of what We have given them.
Can we make this simple? Those who believe in the unseen (what unseen?) and keep praying, spend out (?) what we(who are the we?) have given them(what were given? She said that unseen are God, angels, hell, etc., and the We is God. So let me rephrase this: “Those who believe in Allah, Angels, hell, etc., must believe on what Allah have given them, to give alms to the poor and keep up prayer.”

 

[rikkk1958]

I will wait for help on the next one in post # 764