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Booklover
Guest
Terrific replies, aren’t they! And Muslims keep assuring us that Islam is reasonable and for people who think!
Vickie :whacky: :hypno:
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Vickie :whacky: :hypno:
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Booklover
Guest
Okay, here is my question:
How is Muhammad a Mercy to Mankind? Muslims keep stating this, so now please give us an answer.
Vickie
How is Muhammad a Mercy to Mankind? Muslims keep stating this, so now please give us an answer.
Vickie
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Love_the_Lorax
Guest
I just wanted to thank you. At first, I couldn’t understand why on earth you would come to a Catholic forum to keep preaching your religion. But, I have realized what a wonderful thing you are doing! Now, I have learned so much about Muslims that I will never be tempted to convert. Even more importantly, I am gaining more and more knowledge to pass to my children, so that they know the truth of your religion and not be deceived.
No questions for you, everything I would have asked has already been answered, and I have no desire to further immerse myself in your religion.
Blessings to you.
No questions for you, everything I would have asked has already been answered, and I have no desire to further immerse myself in your religion.
Blessings to you.
http://www.islamicity.com/graphics/BLRR.gif
With the name of ALLAH ( God Almighty)
-The Bestower Of Unlimited Mercy, The Continously Merciful
may peace & blessings of God be upon you
&&&&
Do you have any question about Islam , Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him ) or holy Quran ?
Pl. ask without using any nasty words .
InshaAllah ( God Willing ) , Muslims participants will try to answer
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Muslim_Woman
Guest
Salaam/peace
You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion
( Quran ; 109:6)
that’s ok .
You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion
( Quran ; 109:6)
may peace , mercy & blessings of God be upon you , too.
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Muslim_Woman
Guest
Salaam/peace
THAT PROPHET- PARACLETE- MUHAMMAD (p)
-By: Dr. Jamal Badawi
Up to the time of Jesus (peace be upon him), the Israelites were still awaiting for that prophet like unto Moses prophecied in Deuteronomy 18:18.
When John the Baptist came, they asked him if he was Christ and he said “no”. They asked him if he was Elias and he said “no”. Then, in apparent reference to Deuteronomy 18:18, they asked him “Art thou that Prophet” and he answered, “no”. (John 1: 1 9-2 1).
In the Gospel according to John (Chapters 14, 15, 16) Jesus spoke of the “Paraclete” or comforter who will come after him, who will be sent by Father as another Paraclete, who will teach new things which the contemporaries of Jesus could not bear.
While the Paraclete is described as the spirit of truth, (whose meaning resemble Muhammad’s famous title Al-Amin, the trustworthy), he is identified in one verse as the Holy Ghost (John 14:26). Such a designation is however inconsistent with the profile of that Paraclete. In the words of the Dictionary of the Bible, (Ed. J. Mackenzie) “These items, it must be admitted do not give an entirely coherent picture.”
Indeed history tells us that many early Christians understood the Paraclete to be a man and not a spirit. This might explain the followings who responded to some who claimed, without meeting the criteria stipulated by Jesus, to be the awaited “Paraciete”.
It was Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who was the Paraclete, Comforter, helper, admonisher sent by God after Jesus.
He testified of Jesus, taught new things which could not be borne at Jesus’ time, he spoke what he heard (revelation), he dwells with the believers (through his well-preserved teachings). Such teachings will remain forever because he was the last messenger of God, the only Universal Messenger to unite the whole of humanity under God and on the path of PRESERVED truth.
He told of many things to come which “came to pass” in the minutest detail meeting, the criterion given by Moses to distinguish between the true prophet and the false prophets (Deuteronomy 18:22). He did reprove the world of sin, of righteousness and of judgment (John 16:8-11)
islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=IC0404-2296
muslimvillage.com/story.php?id=2134
God sent His final holy book to Muhammed (p). It will remain free from corruption till the last day. Human being will never go astray if they follow the last & final words of God . Jesus (p) told his followers it’s better if I go away ; If I don’t go away Paraclete won’t come to you.
THAT PROPHET- PARACLETE- MUHAMMAD (p)
-By: Dr. Jamal Badawi
Up to the time of Jesus (peace be upon him), the Israelites were still awaiting for that prophet like unto Moses prophecied in Deuteronomy 18:18.
When John the Baptist came, they asked him if he was Christ and he said “no”. They asked him if he was Elias and he said “no”. Then, in apparent reference to Deuteronomy 18:18, they asked him “Art thou that Prophet” and he answered, “no”. (John 1: 1 9-2 1).
In the Gospel according to John (Chapters 14, 15, 16) Jesus spoke of the “Paraclete” or comforter who will come after him, who will be sent by Father as another Paraclete, who will teach new things which the contemporaries of Jesus could not bear.
While the Paraclete is described as the spirit of truth, (whose meaning resemble Muhammad’s famous title Al-Amin, the trustworthy), he is identified in one verse as the Holy Ghost (John 14:26). Such a designation is however inconsistent with the profile of that Paraclete. In the words of the Dictionary of the Bible, (Ed. J. Mackenzie) “These items, it must be admitted do not give an entirely coherent picture.”
Indeed history tells us that many early Christians understood the Paraclete to be a man and not a spirit. This might explain the followings who responded to some who claimed, without meeting the criteria stipulated by Jesus, to be the awaited “Paraciete”.
It was Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who was the Paraclete, Comforter, helper, admonisher sent by God after Jesus.
He testified of Jesus, taught new things which could not be borne at Jesus’ time, he spoke what he heard (revelation), he dwells with the believers (through his well-preserved teachings). Such teachings will remain forever because he was the last messenger of God, the only Universal Messenger to unite the whole of humanity under God and on the path of PRESERVED truth.
He told of many things to come which “came to pass” in the minutest detail meeting, the criterion given by Moses to distinguish between the true prophet and the false prophets (Deuteronomy 18:22). He did reprove the world of sin, of righteousness and of judgment (John 16:8-11)
islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=IC0404-2296
muslimvillage.com/story.php?id=2134
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Verisimilitude
Guest
The Quran is corrupted. The Paraclete is not Muhammed. Mohammed is not a prophet of God. The words of the Qur’an are not the words of God and Allah is not his name. Islam does not mean peace.
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Booklover
Guest
We Christians don’t accept this! This is just Muslim wishful thinking and does not explain the “mercy” of Muhammad. It’s just nonsensical. After his resurrection and before the ascension, Jesus told his disciples to stay in Jerusalem until they were clothed with power from on high, when the Paraclete came. How can it possibly be Muhammad since he wasn’t born until about 600 years later. This is how Islam steals and distorts other beliefs in order to validate itself.
Jesus also stated that the Paraclete was the SPIRIT of Truth who would dwell within them, so how can Muhammad be that?
John 15
26 But when the Paraclete cometh, whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceedeth from the Father, he shall give testimony of me.
3 John 16
13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will teach you all truth. For he shall not speak of himself; but what things soever he shall hear, he shall speak; and the things that are to come, he shall show you.
Vickie
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Love_the_Lorax
Guest
I’m wondering… if you truly believe the verse that you quoted, why do you keep posting on a Catholic forum, especially with such inflammatory and hurtful statements as “please do all of your Islam bashing and hating here on this thread”? You have no intention of you having your religion and letting us have ours, because you keep trying to stir up problems on a Catholic forum. Many, many posters have clearly refuted so many claims of Islam, but you keep posting. What are you trying to accomplish here? I’m seriously asking this. Do you expect that if you keep trying to convince us that Islam is wonderful we will suddenly convert? Once this thread dies and no one has anything else to say, will you come back with yet another thread to get yet another round of the same ol’ comments going? How is that different than a troll simply trying to stir up problems? Any one with true questions has many, many resources available.
Seems to me that if you honestly believed your own verses that you quote so sweetly, then you wouldn’t feel the need to keep rehashing the same old stuff. I can’t imagine that you have any questions about Catholicism that haven’t been answered, so you aren’t here to learn more about our true faith. Any one here would be more than happy to explain our faith, but that isn’t the issue here. I’ve been so impressed with the eloquence of many posters as they explain the Catholic faith, and refute many of the false teachings of Islam.
I hope this doesn’t come across as angry. I just really don’t get the point sometimes… we don’t hate Muslims, and yet you are here on a Catholic board to argue our beliefs. Hmmmm…
Seems to me that if you honestly believed your own verses that you quote so sweetly, then you wouldn’t feel the need to keep rehashing the same old stuff. I can’t imagine that you have any questions about Catholicism that haven’t been answered, so you aren’t here to learn more about our true faith. Any one here would be more than happy to explain our faith, but that isn’t the issue here. I’ve been so impressed with the eloquence of many posters as they explain the Catholic faith, and refute many of the false teachings of Islam.
I hope this doesn’t come across as angry. I just really don’t get the point sometimes… we don’t hate Muslims, and yet you are here on a Catholic board to argue our beliefs. Hmmmm…
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cathopologist
Guest
The Bible is corrupt to Muslims, yet Muslims quote Biblical verses to justify their religion in the most illogical manner. It is this very reason which upsets Christians. Because Islam distorts our Scripture for its deceptive teachings on Christianity, and refuses to actually understand one basic fact: Christ had already warned us of future ‘prophets’ who will distort our Scripture for their gain.
It is not because we want to hate Muslims, but we want Muslims to know a simple, logical fact of what Our Lord has already taught us. Then comes Mohammad and lo and behold!?
Bahá’u’lláh did the same thing to Mohammad and his religion. How did the Shi’a’s of Iran and other Sunni Muslims around the world take to that? Why are Muslims not accepting Bahá’u’lláh as their prophet?
The answer is obvious, isn’t it?: The same reason why Christians will never accept Mohammad as their prophet.
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R_not
Guest
I have brought this up about islam - the redefiniton of words. Well, I have also discussed how mohammed also redefined sin. this time I would like to discuss how they have redefined ‘innocent’. Basically, whom do muslims consider innocent.
We heard quite often right after 9/11 from many muslims, ‘we do not believe in the killing of any innocents…’. I have asserted that they have generalized the word innocents and that is because they do not want to come out right and say that we are not considered innocent in muslim’s eyes if we are non-muslims.
A discussion of innocence
**“Just recently, a high ranking Pakistani cleric, one Munib ur-Rehmen, asserted that “Islam does not allow anybody to take lives of innocent people by any means.” However, when he was grand mufti, two years earlier, he also said that “truly Islamic” states must kill the apostate from Islam. Considering his former statement, that Islam forbids the taking of “innocent” lives, has Munib been caught fibbing? Either way, this anecdote occasions the question: who is “innocent” in Islam?” **
So, the assertion there is no compulsion in religion is not true since they consider apostates not innocent and can be killed.
**"Every American man is an enemy—whether he fights us directly or pays his taxes,” (The Al Qaeda Reader, 281). Accordingly, al-Qaeda issued its famous fatwa in 1998 concluding that “The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies—civilian and military—is an individual obligation incumbent upon every Muslim who can do it and in any country” (AQR, 13).
What of women and children? What of fellow Muslims? Surely all these are innocent? In fact, Zawahiri, in one of his major treatises written for Muslim-eyes only, “Jihad, Martyrdom, and the Killing of Innocents” (see AQR,141-171), demonstrates the opposite. After quoting several anecdotes from authoritative hadith and sira sources documenting Muhammad legitimizing haphazard attacks against infidel strongholds—including by utilizing catapults (al-manjonil) and fire—even though women and children were known to be sheltered there, Zawahiri quotes the observations of a prominent exegete: “It is well known that whoever follows such a course, bombarding infidels, will inevitably hit their women and children, who are otherwise forbidden from being killed. Likewise, the same goes if Muslims are among them. It is compulsory that this [the possibility of hitting women, children, and Muslims] not dissuade the launching of an incursion against them… even if one dreads hitting another Muslim” (AQR,165)."**
In islam, if an innocent muslim has been killed (and they have killed more muslims than anyone else!) they are just considered martyrs and it is necessary in order to carry on the battle. muslims just figure they will be forgiven and so they just carry on their bloodbath.
Here we see that what we think are ‘moderate’ muslims are indeed not, "…in those Muslim countries where infidels and apostates are perceived as having the upper hand—such as Afghanistan, Algeria, and Iraq—far from worrying about whether infidel women and children are killed, Muslim women and children themselves are individually obligated to participate or at least support the jihad."
Muslims have declared a jihad against us many times so this is why we have seen attacks against our citizens time and again on our land and overseas also.
I will post this website to clarify how the words of ‘good vs evil’ are misconstrued in islam - giving bad the aura of goodness - and how they figure who is responsible for war and who is not.
Centrality of jihad in islam
We heard quite often right after 9/11 from many muslims, ‘we do not believe in the killing of any innocents…’. I have asserted that they have generalized the word innocents and that is because they do not want to come out right and say that we are not considered innocent in muslim’s eyes if we are non-muslims.
A discussion of innocence
**“Just recently, a high ranking Pakistani cleric, one Munib ur-Rehmen, asserted that “Islam does not allow anybody to take lives of innocent people by any means.” However, when he was grand mufti, two years earlier, he also said that “truly Islamic” states must kill the apostate from Islam. Considering his former statement, that Islam forbids the taking of “innocent” lives, has Munib been caught fibbing? Either way, this anecdote occasions the question: who is “innocent” in Islam?” **
So, the assertion there is no compulsion in religion is not true since they consider apostates not innocent and can be killed.
**"Every American man is an enemy—whether he fights us directly or pays his taxes,” (The Al Qaeda Reader, 281). Accordingly, al-Qaeda issued its famous fatwa in 1998 concluding that “The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies—civilian and military—is an individual obligation incumbent upon every Muslim who can do it and in any country” (AQR, 13).
What of women and children? What of fellow Muslims? Surely all these are innocent? In fact, Zawahiri, in one of his major treatises written for Muslim-eyes only, “Jihad, Martyrdom, and the Killing of Innocents” (see AQR,141-171), demonstrates the opposite. After quoting several anecdotes from authoritative hadith and sira sources documenting Muhammad legitimizing haphazard attacks against infidel strongholds—including by utilizing catapults (al-manjonil) and fire—even though women and children were known to be sheltered there, Zawahiri quotes the observations of a prominent exegete: “It is well known that whoever follows such a course, bombarding infidels, will inevitably hit their women and children, who are otherwise forbidden from being killed. Likewise, the same goes if Muslims are among them. It is compulsory that this [the possibility of hitting women, children, and Muslims] not dissuade the launching of an incursion against them… even if one dreads hitting another Muslim” (AQR,165)."**
In islam, if an innocent muslim has been killed (and they have killed more muslims than anyone else!) they are just considered martyrs and it is necessary in order to carry on the battle. muslims just figure they will be forgiven and so they just carry on their bloodbath.
Here we see that what we think are ‘moderate’ muslims are indeed not, "…in those Muslim countries where infidels and apostates are perceived as having the upper hand—such as Afghanistan, Algeria, and Iraq—far from worrying about whether infidel women and children are killed, Muslim women and children themselves are individually obligated to participate or at least support the jihad."
Muslims have declared a jihad against us many times so this is why we have seen attacks against our citizens time and again on our land and overseas also.
I will post this website to clarify how the words of ‘good vs evil’ are misconstrued in islam - giving bad the aura of goodness - and how they figure who is responsible for war and who is not.
Centrality of jihad in islam
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Nicolas
Guest
R_not
The higher council for muslim scholars in Saudi Arabia issued a fataw years ago ordering the killing of the terrorists. Hundreds of them have been killed since then and many of them were killed with the help of the people across the country by informing the police about their locations.
What is your comment on that ??
The higher council for muslim scholars in Saudi Arabia issued a fataw years ago ordering the killing of the terrorists. Hundreds of them have been killed since then and many of them were killed with the help of the people across the country by informing the police about their locations.
What is your comment on that ??
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Nicolas
Guest
R_not
Many Irish Americans who donated money to Northern Ireland charities (like NORAID) didn’t know that this money was to support the IRA operations …the same thing happens with muslims…
Many Irish Americans who donated money to Northern Ireland charities (like NORAID) didn’t know that this money was to support the IRA operations …the same thing happens with muslims…
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R_not
Guest
They have specifically told the jihadists to do their jihad - that the saudis finance - but not ‘in their back yard’. You know that as well as I do. the largest export besides oil for the saudis are jihadists. Paksitan is their training ground and not only are large number of saudis being trained, and caught/killed, in Iraq and elsewhere, but so are many Palestinians. The Palestinians are their cannon fodder.
They support Hamas, and support groups such as Abu Sayaff.
Don’t think that what you ask is so tricky. the saudis have mouths on their heads and behinds because they so often speak out of the one on their butts to us while turning around and doing what good, widdle wahabbists do - wage jihad. their 3rd highest export is imams spreading their wahabbism - the direct ties to the muslim brotherhood, and finance such organizations such as CAIR, MSA (muslim student association), and many mosques and madrassas here and abroad.
So, saudi just doesn’t want to clean up the mess that their jihadists make so don’t think that we are unaware of their complicency in the global jihad whether it be violent or stealth.
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R_not
Guest
the difference being that no muslim charity has been found that does not donate to jihadists. In fact, that is what muslim charities are set up for. Shortly after 9/11 we saw a telethon - basically what we do in the states to raise money for such things as sickness - the saudis raised money for jihadists.
saudi telethon
muslim ‘charity’
Tying muslim charities to jihad
According to the Quran, jihad is not something a Muslim can opt out of. It demands able-bodied believers join the fight. Those unable – women and the elderly – are not exempt; they must give “asylum and aid” (Surah 8:74) to those who do fight the unbelievers in the cause of Allah.
The saudis only gave to the tsunami AFTER world pressure!
The IRA has stopped their bombings. The muslims have not - in fact it is worldwide their bombings while the IRA was limited to their own against the English. Not to justify it.
The perversion of bad into good by jihad/islam is what is causing this problem.
Centrality of jihad in islam
To point to other person’s bad behavior to justify the bad behavior that exudes out of islam is pathetic too. But it is a common tactic, as are many other tactics.
J
Jesusisgod
Guest
3 Important things.
1—Christian’s God says Exodus 4:22 Then say to Pharaoh, 'This is what God says: Israel is my firstborn son, 23 and I told you, Let my son go, so that he may worship me.
Now, remember in the entire book of Exodus, ONLY the Jews were in Egypt and were the ones to perform the Exodus which God personally led through Moses.
INSTEAD…we see that islam’s allah cannot wait to kill all Jews!
“The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time [of judgment] will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!” (Sahih Muslim book 41, no. 6985);
2—Christian’s God says Deuteronomy 24:4 her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again for she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the LORD. Do not bring sin upon the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance. Leviticus 21:7 " 'They must not marry women defiled by prostitution or divorced from their husbands, because priests are holy to their God.
INSTEAD…Now, we see that islam’s allah encourages the defilement.
Islam’s allah says “Surah 2:230"…So if a husband divorces his wife he cannot after that, remarry her unless she has married another husband and had sex with him, and he has divorced her, in that case there is no blame on either of them if they reunite…"
3 — Christian’s God says Exodus 3:15 God also said to Moses, "Say this to the Israelites: Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever; this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.
INSTEAD…Now, see what islam’s allah says its name is:
Surah Al Asraa’ (17), Aayah 110: Say: “Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman; by whatever name ye call him (it is well).
Muslims claim that allah is the same deity that saved the Jews in the exodus. That is frankly pure crock. Its very clear here to anyone with a minimal level of IQ that allah is NOT God.
Islam’s idol says its name is allah or rahman, not Yahweh, and allah teaches people towards defilement instead of cleanliness and wants to kill the Jews who had followed God closely and whom God had called His firstborn.
Who really is allah? Historians & Archaelogists have proven conclusively that allah is the same moon idol worshipped previously by the Babylonians (known then as Hubal Baal). If we refer to the Bible, we see in Numbers 25 & 1st Kings 18, that Baal is the ancient enemy of God.
*** That’s also why the battle rages on even until today! And muslims are taught to hate Jews. If you’re wondering why there is so much animosity between Muslims & Jews/ Christians. This is the source of the hatred ***
PS. allah is a name. the regular arabic noun for the word god is ILAH. And by the way if you see Luke 16:16, you will see that Jesus openly declared that there are no more prophets after John the Baptist. This directly implies that Muhammad of islam was a FRAUD and not a prophet. The book of John says : 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Messiah? He is antichrist, that denieth God the Father and Jesus the Son.
God is telling everyone POINT BLANK, that Islam is a religion of the DEVIL.
biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
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1—Christian’s God says Exodus 4:22 Then say to Pharaoh, 'This is what God says: Israel is my firstborn son, 23 and I told you, Let my son go, so that he may worship me.
Now, remember in the entire book of Exodus, ONLY the Jews were in Egypt and were the ones to perform the Exodus which God personally led through Moses.
INSTEAD…we see that islam’s allah cannot wait to kill all Jews!
“The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time [of judgment] will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!” (Sahih Muslim book 41, no. 6985);
2—Christian’s God says Deuteronomy 24:4 her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again for she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the LORD. Do not bring sin upon the land the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance. Leviticus 21:7 " 'They must not marry women defiled by prostitution or divorced from their husbands, because priests are holy to their God.
INSTEAD…Now, we see that islam’s allah encourages the defilement.
Islam’s allah says “Surah 2:230"…So if a husband divorces his wife he cannot after that, remarry her unless she has married another husband and had sex with him, and he has divorced her, in that case there is no blame on either of them if they reunite…"
3 — Christian’s God says Exodus 3:15 God also said to Moses, "Say this to the Israelites: Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever; this is how I am to be remembered in every generation.
INSTEAD…Now, see what islam’s allah says its name is:
Surah Al Asraa’ (17), Aayah 110: Say: “Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman; by whatever name ye call him (it is well).
Muslims claim that allah is the same deity that saved the Jews in the exodus. That is frankly pure crock. Its very clear here to anyone with a minimal level of IQ that allah is NOT God.
Islam’s idol says its name is allah or rahman, not Yahweh, and allah teaches people towards defilement instead of cleanliness and wants to kill the Jews who had followed God closely and whom God had called His firstborn.
Who really is allah? Historians & Archaelogists have proven conclusively that allah is the same moon idol worshipped previously by the Babylonians (known then as Hubal Baal). If we refer to the Bible, we see in Numbers 25 & 1st Kings 18, that Baal is the ancient enemy of God.
*** That’s also why the battle rages on even until today! And muslims are taught to hate Jews. If you’re wondering why there is so much animosity between Muslims & Jews/ Christians. This is the source of the hatred ***
PS. allah is a name. the regular arabic noun for the word god is ILAH. And by the way if you see Luke 16:16, you will see that Jesus openly declared that there are no more prophets after John the Baptist. This directly implies that Muhammad of islam was a FRAUD and not a prophet. The book of John says : 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Messiah? He is antichrist, that denieth God the Father and Jesus the Son.
God is telling everyone POINT BLANK, that Islam is a religion of the DEVIL.
biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
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tGette
Guest
I have not been following any of this thread since way in the beginning.
A very recent thread made me wonder:
Why, in Islam, are their animals sacrifices to God? What do they signify? Why are they done? Is it the same/similar reasons Jews do it?
A very recent thread made me wonder:
Why, in Islam, are their animals sacrifices to God? What do they signify? Why are they done? Is it the same/similar reasons Jews do it?
R
R_not
Guest
Some of it has to do with the pre-islamic, pagan, rituals of people.
Here are some videos about different things in islam, and it includes animal sacrifices - be warned though - it is not a nice thing.
animal sacrifice
Here is some sacrifice that is all about jihad - and it isn’t about animals, well our definition of animals. Too often the koran puts non-muslims at the same level as animals so maybe that is why they have no compunction about doing this:
cries of ‘allahu akbar’
The above website has a video in it and it has been edited down so it is not showing the actual beheading, but it is disturbing since they are teaching children to do such things.
This subject really bothers me - the fact of the outright brainwashing of children, what they are teaching them and the utter silence of the so called ‘moderates’.
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Muslim_Woman
Guest
Salaam/peace
Rules and Significance of Udhiyah
By Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi
…The udhiyah is the Sunnah of Prophet Ibrahim, Prophet Isma`il and Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon them all) It has a meaning and significance.
It reminds us of the great act of sacrifice that Prophet Ibrahim and Isma
The "momentous sacrifice (dhibhin `azhim) is the sacrifice of the billions of people who have been remembering this tradition for the last four thousand years.
Other people who claim to follow Prophet Ibrahim have forgotten this tradition, but we Muslims have kept it alive without any interruption. We must keep this Sunnah and should not forget it.
…The meat of the udhiyah should be divided in three equal portions: one for oneself and the family, one for friends, and one for the poor and needy. If there are more poor people, then it is good to give all of it in charity to the poor and needy
islamonline.net/English/Eid_AlAdha/Rulings_Fatwas/05.shtml
Rulings & Fatwas
Rules and Significance of Udhiyah
By Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi
…The udhiyah is the Sunnah of Prophet Ibrahim, Prophet Isma`il and Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon them all) It has a meaning and significance.
It reminds us of the great act of sacrifice that Prophet Ibrahim and Isma
il were willing to do for the sake of Almighty Allah. Allah spared the life of Prophet Ismaeel, but He told us that [And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice.] (As-Saffaat 37:107).The "momentous sacrifice (dhibhin `azhim) is the sacrifice of the billions of people who have been remembering this tradition for the last four thousand years.
Other people who claim to follow Prophet Ibrahim have forgotten this tradition, but we Muslims have kept it alive without any interruption. We must keep this Sunnah and should not forget it.
…The meat of the udhiyah should be divided in three equal portions: one for oneself and the family, one for friends, and one for the poor and needy. If there are more poor people, then it is good to give all of it in charity to the poor and needy
islamonline.net/English/Eid_AlAdha/Rulings_Fatwas/05.shtml
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Muslim_Woman
Guest
Salaam/peace
The Place of Prophet Ibrahim in Islam, Christianity and Judaism
Faith, sacrifice, commitment and patience.
These are just some of the qualities that characterize Prophet Ibrahim or Abraham as he is called in English (peace be upon him).
So it should come as no surprise that he is revered not just in Islam, but in Christianity and Judaism as well.
…Prophet Ibrahim had settled his wife and son in the valley of Makkah by God’s order to pioneers a civilization. It was from this civilization that the Prophet Mohammed was born.
Finally, Prophet’s Ibrahim’s willingness to sacrifice his beloved son Ismail for the sake of God exemplifies not only his sincere devotion to God. The commemoration of this sacrifice is practiced with the sacrifice of an animal during Hajj and one of the two Islamic holy days: Eid-ul-Adha.
Both father and son willingly submitted to God’s command. God substituted a ram in Ismail’s place at the last moment. God talks about this incident in Quran 37:100-107.
The sacrifice that is offered by Muslims all over the world every year (at Eid-ul-Adha) is in commemoration of the supreme act and spirit of sacrifice offered by Prophet Abraham in lieu of his son Ismail.
And He said, “Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you”.
. CHRISTIANITY
It is through the central figure of Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) that Prophet Abraham is given prominence in the Christian tradition.
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia Volume 1 (1999, Kevin Knight, online version), in the New Testament, the generation of Jesus Christ is traced back to Abraham by St. Matthew.
…According to Christian tradition, God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac “to prove that he was ‘worthy of becoming the father of a mighty nation, which would be as numerous as the stars in the sky or the grains of sand on the seashore’” (from A History of God, the 4,000-year Quest of Judaism, Christianity and Islam by Karen Armstrong published by Alfred A. Knopf, 1993).
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The Place of Prophet Ibrahim in Islam, Christianity and Judaism
Faith, sacrifice, commitment and patience.
These are just some of the qualities that characterize Prophet Ibrahim or Abraham as he is called in English (peace be upon him).
So it should come as no surprise that he is revered not just in Islam, but in Christianity and Judaism as well.
…Prophet Ibrahim had settled his wife and son in the valley of Makkah by God’s order to pioneers a civilization. It was from this civilization that the Prophet Mohammed was born.
Finally, Prophet’s Ibrahim’s willingness to sacrifice his beloved son Ismail for the sake of God exemplifies not only his sincere devotion to God. The commemoration of this sacrifice is practiced with the sacrifice of an animal during Hajj and one of the two Islamic holy days: Eid-ul-Adha.
Both father and son willingly submitted to God’s command. God substituted a ram in Ismail’s place at the last moment. God talks about this incident in Quran 37:100-107.
The sacrifice that is offered by Muslims all over the world every year (at Eid-ul-Adha) is in commemoration of the supreme act and spirit of sacrifice offered by Prophet Abraham in lieu of his son Ismail.
- JUDAISM
And He said, “Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you”.
. CHRISTIANITY
It is through the central figure of Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) that Prophet Abraham is given prominence in the Christian tradition.
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia Volume 1 (1999, Kevin Knight, online version), in the New Testament, the generation of Jesus Christ is traced back to Abraham by St. Matthew.
…According to Christian tradition, God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac “to prove that he was ‘worthy of becoming the father of a mighty nation, which would be as numerous as the stars in the sky or the grains of sand on the seashore’” (from A History of God, the 4,000-year Quest of Judaism, Christianity and Islam by Karen Armstrong published by Alfred A. Knopf, 1993).
soundvision.com/info/hajj/abraham.asp
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