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[swariffin]

Here are a few of the similiarites between islam and Mein Kampf. It isn’t the Bible that we can compare islam to, it is the Mein Kampf. The muslims are so unwilling to prove that their assertions that the Bible was corrupted, but we know that people like Stalin said, ‘repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth’. So, it is a myth that the Bible was corrupted and especially when the assertion comes from a guy who was an illiterate pagan.

Now, we can compare the teachings of islam to Mein Kampf. You have to read both texts of islam, and also Mein Kampf and you will certainly see the similarities. Also, the history of both - granted the Nazis had a relatively short history, but islam does not and its history of bloodshed and terror is still going on to this day. We see in the UK yet another severe terror warning from the ‘religion of peace’.

UK

I.
Mein Kampf:676, “Spiritual terror…men must threaten and dominate men by compulsion. Compulsion is only broken by compulsion and terror by terror.”

Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.’”

II.
Mein Kampf:677 “Since our view of life will never share power with another, it cannot co-operate with the existing doctrines it condemns. It is obliged to fight by all available means until the entire world of hostile ideas collapses.”

Bukhari:V4B53N386 “Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone.”

III.
Mein Kampf:677 “This corrosive fight…for the new program and new view of life [religion] demands determined fighters…and a forceful fighting organization. The recipe for a favorable result requires the formulation of a declaration of war against all existing order [religions and doctrines], and against all existing conceptions of life in general.”

(Just like Islam, it was the Nazis against the world. The “House of Islam” forever battles the “House of War.” )

Tabari IX:69 “He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter to us.”

IV.
Mein Kampf:679 “The strength of a party lies in the disciplined obedience of the members to follow their leadership. The decisive factors are leadership and discipline. When troops battle one another, the victorious one will be that which is blindly obedient to the Superior Leader.”

Islam says: Ishaq:601 “The best men launch spears as if they were swords. They peer forward unweariedly. They devote their lives to their Prophet. In hand-to-hand fighting and cavalry attacks they purify themselves with the blood of the infidels. They consider that an act of piety.”

V.
Mein Kampf:680 “In order to lead a view of life to victory, we have to transform it into a fighting movement.”

Ishaq:587 “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have cut off every opponent’s nose and ears with our swords. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them for they must suffer disgrace.”

There are more, one only has to read.

Dear R_Not,

I cannot keep myself from laughing. Are you saying that both Hitler and Mohammad received the same apparation? Looks like that Hitler tried to follow what Mohammad did. Why Hitler failed? because he forgot to declare himself as a prophet. Remember, a leader, whatever shall be called, can be overthrown. But, a prophet, cannot.

 

[morning_star777]

Muslim Woman;4296217:

Jesus, the son of Mary, said, “A messenger will come after me,named Ahmad.” [Quran 61:6]

QUOTE]

Dear Muslim Woman,

According to the Mormon the wording will be “Jesus, the son of Mary, said A messenger will come after me, named Smith”.(source : Book of Mormon)

According to my new religion I may invented the wording will be “Jesus, the son of Mary, said A Messenger will come after me, names swariffin”.(source: my own bible)

According to another new religion whoever may invented, the wording will be “Jesus, the son of Mary, said A Messenger will come after me, named xyz” (source: the inventor’s bible)

Anyone want to invent a new religion?

Very nice post brother.Actually it is a very nice punch to irrationality.Carry on brother:thumbsup: Jesus bless you

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

“Every child is born in the Peaceful Surrender to Allah - [ISLAM].”

• Prophet Muhammad (p)

Islam - Birthright of Adam’s Children

• Yusuf Estes

Mankind and the universe were not created by accident or chance, but according to the plan of the Creator, who is known as Almighty Allah (lit.: the one God) in ISLAM

Allah sent messengers called prophets to mankind throughout history to remind them of their natural state they were born into - the state of “Peace through submission to Almighty God.” Some of His prophets, He sent with revelations like the Old Testament (Torah), the New Testament (Gospel or Injil) and His Final Testament, The Qur’an (The Recitation).

…Each prophet brought the same message and acted as examples for their people to know how Almighty Allah wants us all to live. It is through knowing these great and wonderful prophets we learn why Almighty Allah created us and what will happen to us after death.

Above all we have been told Allah is “Unique” - He has no partners or associates. There really is only “One God” and we can not have other ‘gods’ beside Him. He has no daughters, sons or competitors, as many man-made religions have claimed.

The message remains the same today as it was with Adam, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon and Jesus - and of course with Muhammad, peace be upon them all. The message is clear and plain for all to understand: “Thou shalt not have any other gods besides Almighty Allah.”

ISLAM - EQUALITY OF MAN

…Distinction between one and another with Almighty Allah will only be according to piety and righteousness. The more committment to believing and following what Alimghty Allah has commanded for us, the more He will accept from us.

Quran says, “The most honored amongst you in the Sight of Allah are those who are most righteous.” [3:86]

ISLAM - THE BIRTHRIGHT

ISLAM teaches, everyone is born in “Surrender and obedience in peace with the Almighty Allah.” Therefore, the belief in One God and to do as He Orders is natural from birth. Every child has the natural disposition to accept the Unity of God.

islamtomorrow.com/birthright.asp

 

[morning_star777]

dear muslim woman,you are very strange because you always argue with us using Koran,Hadith and islamic sources.But you should understand that we do not believe your scriptures!So if you want to prove your claims then please use some other sources also.Thank you

 

[planten]

Islam started out as a rival to Judaism and Christianity.** Mohammad probably thought, **“Both have had revelations from God. Why is it that my people have not been chosen for His purposes?” It’s not difficult to invent a new religion and Mohammad proved that.

Please do not bring in **thought **process. You have thought something wrong. Jesus also used to think. Once he was very hungry. He did not know that it was not the season for the figs.

He saw a fig tree. **He thought **he would be able to fill his belly. So he went to it to eat some figs. But there were no figs. Can you see the thought process? All he could do was to curse the poor fig tree for no fault of its own.

You have accused Muhammad of thought process and inventing a religion. I say your argument is very weak. It can be applied to christianity too. **Jesus thought **that he could get away with his harsh abusive preaching. But **his thought **was wrong. he was caught very quickly and put on the cross.

Please try something better next time.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

…But you should understand that we do not believe your scriptures!..

It’s ok if you don’t believe in my holy book. I just want to others know what we believe . U don’t have to agree with us

 

[cathopologist]

Please do not bring in **thought **process. You have thought something wrong. Jesus also used to think. Once he was very hungry. He did not know that it was not the season for the figs.

History proves, not all speculative thoughts are deemed ‘wrong’. Mohammad’s wanton yearnings could have led him to invent his own religion. Out of utter jealousy and hatred, a religion that is a far cry from conservative monotheistic traditions, ie; Judaism and Christianity, was born. It would not have been a problem, if Mohammad did not practice bigamy, cruelty, or blaspheme Our Lord.

He saw a fig tree. **He thought **he would be able to fill his belly. So he went to it to eat some figs. But there were no figs. Can you see the thought process? All he could do was to curse the poor fig tree for no fault of its own.

Jesus cursed a fig tree? Is this what Islam teaches about their prophet? No wonder then, Islam has a tough time trying to fit in with the other religions.

You have accused Muhammad of thought process and inventing a religion. I say your argument is very weak. It can be applied to christianity too. **Jesus thought **that he could get away with his harsh abusive preaching. But **his thought **was wrong. he was caught very quickly and put on the cross.

Please try something better next time.

My dear planten, Christianity has always been a target for ridicule amongst non-Christians, such as yourself. Just look at what Muslims did to Christians in the past. <slaps forehead> You guys are still at it today. Whats new?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

A Christian Friend - Canada

Title: Stories of the Prophets in the Qur’an

Question: Hi, I’m a Christian, but have also read part of the Qur’an. I read the elucidation on the origin of the Qur’an, which say that the Qur’an was revealed to the Prophet by God.
But when I compare its contents with the Bible, then most of them are the same, the figures, the events, etc.

But why then have the stories on Moses, Noah, Abraham, David, Jesus etc., since they have been well known to the Mediterranean world already for 600 years, before the Islam? And, even, the Old Testament stories some hundreds years more?

How should one regard this problem correctly? Could you guys please help him.

Counselor: Bilal Philips – ex Christian & our new Muslim bro

… in the Bible, especially in the Old Testament, the lives of the prophets were gravely distorted. Lies were told about them to such an extent that they were no longer examples of righteousness but examples of corruption!

For example, Prophet Lot is portrayed as having become drunk with his daughters and committing incest with them! Prophet David is portrayed as lusting after a man’s wife, committing adultery with her and sending her husband off to the front lines of the battle to be killed! As for Prophet Solomon, he is portrayed as worshipping idols in his old age!!!

Of course stories about Jesus, being God or the son of God, were woven into accounts called “gospels” and attributed to Jesus’ disciples. Consequently, the Qur’an cleared up these lies and elevated the prophets back to their proper status.

Thus, the Qur’an relayed the basic message of all prophets, in the most simple and clear terms: Worship God alone and do not worship false gods.

It should also be noted that the Qur’an only mentions the key points of the lives of the prophets, wherein there are moral lessons to be learned. So their stories in the holy Qur’an focus on the spiritual message and do not get bogged down with unnecessary details. I advise you to compare, for example, the story of Joseph in both, the Qur’an and the Bible.

readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996220136&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam%2FAAboutIslamCounselorE%2FAAboutIslamCounselorE

 

[Booklover]

Salaam/peace

A Christian Friend - Canada

Title: Stories of the Prophets in the Qur’an

Question: Hi, I’m a Christian, but have also read part of the Qur’an. I read the elucidation on the origin of the Qur’an, which say that the Qur’an was revealed to the Prophet by God.
But when I compare its contents with the Bible, then most of them are the same, the figures, the events, etc.

But why then have the stories on Moses, Noah, Abraham, David, Jesus etc., since they have been well known to the Mediterranean world already for 600 years, before the Islam? And, even, the Old Testament stories some hundreds years more?

How should one regard this problem correctly? Could you guys please help him.

Counselor: Bilal Philips – ex Christian & our new Muslim bro

… in the Bible, especially in the Old Testament, the lives of the prophets were gravely distorted. Lies were told about them to such an extent that they were no longer examples of righteousness but examples of corruption!

For example, Prophet Lot is portrayed as having become drunk with his daughters and committing incest with them! Prophet David is portrayed as lusting after a man’s wife, committing adultery with her and sending her husband off to the front lines of the battle to be killed! As for Prophet Solomon, he is portrayed as worshipping idols in his old age!!!

Of course stories about Jesus, being God or the son of God, were woven into accounts called “gospels” and attributed to Jesus’ disciples. Consequently, the Qur’an cleared up these lies and elevated the prophets back to their proper status.

Thus, the Qur’an relayed the basic message of all prophets, in the most simple and clear terms: Worship God alone and do not worship false gods.

It should also be noted that the Qur’an only mentions the key points of the lives of the prophets, wherein there are moral lessons to be learned. So their stories in the holy Qur’an focus on the spiritual message and do not get bogged down with unnecessary details. I advise you to compare, for example, the story of Joseph in both, the Qur’an and the Bible.

readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996220136&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam%2FAAboutIslamCounselorE%2FAAboutIslamCounselorE

This is absolute nonsense! As usual your Islamic “scholars” have to lie about our scriptures to prove the validity of Islam. If they had real proof they would offer it without maligning other faiths.

Vickie

 

[Angelos]

Salaam/peace

A Christian Friend - Canada

Title: Stories of the Prophets in the Qur’an

Counselor: Bilal Philips – ex Christian & our new Muslim bro

… in the Bible, especially in the Old Testament, the lives of the prophets were gravely distorted. Lies were told about them to such an extent that they were no longer examples of righteousness but examples of corruption!

For example, Prophet Lot is portrayed as having become drunk with his daughters and committing incest with them! Prophet David is portrayed as lusting after a man’s wife, committing adultery with her and sending her husband off to the front lines of the battle to be killed! As for Prophet Solomon, he is portrayed as worshipping idols in his old age!!!

So-called ex-Christians and new Muslims are continuing their silly lies. If they are current Muslims-, this is mostly because telling lies and being deceitful are in accordance with their new faith.

The Old Testament never designates Lot as a messenger or prophet. Thus, it is completely stupid of some Muslims to judge the account of Lot’s affair with his daughters in Genesis with the Islamic supposition that Lot was a messenger.

Besides, the Koran endorses the idea that Lot, even when considered an Islamic messenger, made wrong and unethical decisions. He was ready to give his daughters to the sinful men of his folk at the time of the turmoil in the town. How is it possible for a sinless and perfect messenger of Islam to offer his own daughters to satisfy the sexual desire of sinners?

As for David, the following Koran verses make it clear that Islam endorsed David’s act of adultery with Bathsheba:

Surah 38:24-26
David guessed that We had tried him, and he sought forgiveness of his Lord, and he bowed himself and fell down prostrate and repented. So We forgave him that; and lo! he had access to Our presence and a happy journey’s end. (And it was said unto him): O David! Lo! We have set thee as a viceroy in the earth; therefor judge aright between mankind, and** follow not desire** that it beguile thee from the way of Allah. Lo! those who wander from the way of Allah have an awful doom, forasmuch as they forgot the Day of Reckoning.

Of course stories about Jesus, being God or the son of God, were woven into accounts called “gospels” and attributed to Jesus’ disciples. Consequently, the Qur’an cleared up these lies and elevated the prophets back to their proper status.

That dishonest Muslim speaker’s word choice is deliberately wrong. He cannot talk of an “elevation” in the Koran when many verses in it clearly try to base Jesus’ status from God and Savior to that of an ordinary and even local prophet! What a blasphemy!

The only thing the Koran can do with regard to Jesus is adopt the accounts of Jesus’ infancy from apocryphal Gospels and distort them in addition to repeating the allegations of heretic Gnostics (denial of Jesus’ crucifixion). Consequently, the authors of the Koran failed to distinguish the basic Orthodox tenets from those of the heretics and even presented the persons of the Christian Trinity in a wrong way!

It should also be noted that the Qur’an only mentions the key points of the lives of the prophets, wherein there are moral lessons to be learned. So their stories in the holy Qur’an focus on the spiritual message and do not get bogged down with unnecessary details. I advise you to compare, for example, the story of Joseph in both, the Qur’an and the Bible.

Key points of the lives of the prophets? What about Mohammad’s arguments with her so many wives? Why does the Koran fail to answer the questions where the prophets lived? For instance, the Koran does not say where Abraham was when he was supposedly cast into fire? Where was he when the angels visited him? When did he supposedly go to Mecca and why? Who was Ishmael’s mother? NO ANSWERS from the Koran! Muslims eventually resort to the Old Testament and some Jewish fables.

What are the key points of John’s (Yahya) prophetic ministry in the Koran? It is impossible to see Yahya preach and talk in the Koran! What did he teach? What happened to him? Why? NO ANSWERS from the Koran. Muslims eventually resort to the New Testament.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Ramadan – An Unforgettable Experience *

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O you who believe! Fasting is prescribed for you, as it was prescribed for those who came before you; so that you may attain God-consciousness. (Al-Baqarah 2: 183)

…I no longer allow my Islam to revolve around my life; rather, my life now revolves around Islam. It is as though I have taken my first ‘real’ breath, and now, only now, do I know what it means to breathe.

By Umm Thameenah

Freelance Writer—UK

islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&cid=1223905217156&pagename=Zone-English-Living_Shariah%2FLSELayout

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Why is Polygamy allowed in Islam ?

Dr. Zakir Naik

…Qur’an is the only religious scripture in the world that says ‘marry only one’. …The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an: ‘Marry woman of your choice in twos’ threes’ or fours’ but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly, (with them), then only one’ [Al-Qur’an 4:3]

…Christian men were permitted as many wives as they wished, since the Bible puts no restriction on the number of wives. It was only a couple of centuries ago that the Church restricted the number of wives to one.

Polygyny is permitted in Judaism. According to Talmudic law, Abraham had 2 ( M W : actually 3 ) wives, and Solomon had hundreds of wives. The practice of polygyny continued till Rabbi Gershom ben Yehudah. (960 A.D to 1030 A.D) issued an edict against it.

The Jewish Sephardic communities living in Muslim countries continued the practice till as late as 1950, when an Act of the chief Rabbinate of Israel extended the ban on marrying more than one wife.

…Hindus are more polygamous than Muslims The report of the ‘Committee of The Status of Woman in Islam’, published in 1975 mentions on page numbers 66,67 that the percentage of polygamous marriages between the year 1951 -1961 was 5.06 among the Hindus and only 4.31 among the Muslims

…In the USA, women outnumber men by 7.8 million. New York alone has one million more females as compared to the number of males, and of the male population of New York one-third are gays i.e sodomites. The USA as a whole has more than twenty-five million gays. This means that these people do not wish to marry women.

Great Britain has four million more females as compared to males. Germany has five million more females as compared to males. Russia has nine million more females than males. God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males.

Restricting each and every man to have only one wife is not practical Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million more females in USA who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays).

There would be more than four million females in Great Britain 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia alone who would not be able to find a husband.

Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes public property. There is no other option. I have posed this question to hundreds of non-Muslims and all opted for the first. However a few smart people before accepting, said they would prefer their sisters to remain virgins.

Biologically, it is not possible for an average man or a woman to remain celibate throughout life. It may be possible in exceptional cases of one in ten thousand. In the vast majority, the person either gets married or performs illicit sex or indulges in other sexual perversions. Sex hormones are released in the adult body every day. That is the reason why Islam has prohibited monasticism.

In Western society it is common for a man to have mistresses and/or multiple extra-marital affairs, in which case, the woman leads a disgraceful, unprotected life. The same society, however, cannot accept a man having more than one wife, in which women retain their honourable, dignified position in society and lead a protected life.

Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become public property. Islam prefers giving women the honourable position by permitting the first option and disallowing the second. There are several other reasons, why Islam has permitted limited polygyny, but it is mainly to protect the modesty of women.

islamawareness.net/Polygamy/why.html

 

[planten]

swariffin;4298799:

Very nice post brother.Actually it is a very nice punch to irrationality.Carry on brother:thumbsup: Jesus bless you

**Yes, please punch your christian (Hitler) as much as you like. But do not disown him. He was a christian all his life, born as a christian, brought up as a christian, and he was a practicing christian. He had a cross on his uniform. All members of his Nazi party had the cross.

None of the church bodies disowned him. No one of the christians ever complained about him.

How can you run away from all these things? Trying to be clever?**

 

[planten]

Muslim Woman;4296217:

Jesus, the son of Mary, said, “A messenger will come after me,named Ahmad.” [Quran 61:6]

QUOTE]

Dear Muslim Woman,

According to the Mormon the wording will be “Jesus, the son of Mary, said A messenger will come after me, named Smith”.(source : Book of Mormon)

According to my new religion I may invented the wording will be “Jesus, the son of Mary, said A Messenger will come after me, names swariffin”.(source: my own bible)

According to another new religion whoever may invented, the wording will be “Jesus, the son of Mary, said A Messenger will come after me, named xyz” (source: the inventor’s bible)

Anyone want to invent a new religion?

**But please do not deny that Jesus told you about some one to come after Jesus. he had to go away in hurry and he could not tell you all things. That is bible NT chapter 16.

Now you distort his words and put anything in place of Ahmad (parclete). It is your choice. Already you have done enough with the bible and perhaps some of you do not respect the words of Jesus. Those people are playing jokes with what he said, putting name of Smith in the mouth of Jesus? (Now I am laughing).

At least the friends realise that Jesus had informed about some one like him to come after him. He (Jesus) was a comforter. he said “God will give you another Comforter”. We know that Jesus was not a ghost. So Jesus did not predict about any ghost after him. Thanks.**

 

[morning_star777]

**Yes, please punch your christian (Hitler) as much as you like. But do not disown him. He was a christian all his life, born as a christian, brought up as a christian, and he was a practicing christian. He had a cross on his uniform. All members of his Nazi party had the cross.

None of the church bodies disowned him. No one of the christians ever complained about him.

How can you run away from all these things? Trying to be clever?**

The so called cross of Nazi Party is not a cross but that called swastica;a pure Hindu symbol.So actually what was the religion of Hitler?he openly leaved Christianity and involved in demonology!he claimed himself as an aryan.So how can you again and again claim that Hitler was a pure christian?

 

[planten]

Salaam/peace

A Christian Friend - Canada

Title: Stories of the Prophets in the Qur’an

Question: Hi, I’m a Christian, but have also read part of the Qur’an. I read the elucidation on the origin of the Qur’an, which say that the Qur’an was revealed to the Prophet by God.
But when I compare its contents with the Bible, then most of them are the same, the figures, the events, etc.

But why then have the stories on Moses, Noah, Abraham, David, Jesus etc., since they have been well known to the Mediterranean world already for 600 years, before the Islam? And, even, the Old Testament stories some hundreds years more?

How should one regard this problem correctly? Could you guys please help him.

Counselor: Bilal Philips – ex Christian & our new Muslim bro

… in the Bible, especially in the Old Testament, the lives of the prophets were gravely distorted. Lies were told about them to such an extent that they were no longer examples of righteousness but examples of corruption!

For example, Prophet Lot is portrayed as having become drunk with his daughters and committing incest with them! Prophet David is portrayed as lusting after a man’s wife, committing adultery with her and sending her husband off to the front lines of the battle to be killed! As for Prophet Solomon, he is portrayed as worshipping idols in his old age!!!

Of course stories about Jesus, being God or the son of God, were woven into accounts called “gospels” and attributed to Jesus’ disciples. Consequently, the Qur’an cleared up these lies and elevated the prophets back to their proper status.

Thus, the Qur’an relayed the basic message of all prophets, in the most simple and clear terms: Worship God alone and do not worship false gods.

It should also be noted that the Qur’an only mentions the key points of the lives of the prophets, wherein there are moral lessons to be learned. So their stories in the holy Qur’an focus on the spiritual message and do not get bogged down with unnecessary details. I advise you to compare, for example, the story of Joseph in both, the Qur’an and the Bible.

readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996220136&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam%2FAAboutIslamCounselorE%2FAAboutIslamCounselorE

**That is a perfectly good reply. The Quran supported anything that was true in the bible about the earlier prophets. There was no harm in repeating it. It was supporting the truth. But if there was something wrong (And there was a lot of things that were wrong in the bible OT and NT), the Quran presented the right picture.

The mention of the story of Joseph son of Jacob is a very good example. The Quran describes the good efforts of the earlier prophets in spreading the message of the Unity of God. It also describes the bad end (result) of the disbelievers. There is much more on spiritual side in the Quran which was missing in earlier scriptures.

Most of the material of the earlier books was altered by men. The Judaism was alright about the One God belief. But the christians had drifted away from the unitarian faith by claiming three gods in One God and making a mere simple man Jesus as a God. That had to be corrected and it was done in good faith.

Quran is the last testament. You will not find anything derogatory about any man or woman of God in Quran.

Moreover, Moses a.s. had predicted about a prophet like him to come after him. Jesus had also promised some one (Parclete) to come after him. So there was need for a prophet to come. And He came with a book called Quran.

**

 

[swariffin]

swariffin;4298799:

**But please do not deny that Jesus told you about some one to come after Jesus. he had to go away in hurry and he could not tell you all things. That is bible NT chapter 16.

Now you distort his words and put anything in place of Ahmad (parclete). It is your choice. Already you have done enough with the bible and perhaps some of you do not respect the words of Jesus. Those people are playing jokes with what he said, putting name of Smith in the mouth of Jesus? (Now I am laughing).

At least the friends realise that Jesus had informed about some one like him to come after him. He (Jesus) was a comforter. he said “God will give you another Comforter”. We know that Jesus was not a ghost. So Jesus did not predict about any ghost after him. Thanks.**

Ha… ha… Planten. You are so funny. What if Islam was revealed to a Chinese person rather than to an Arabic (That is possible, right? To God nothing is impossible). The name which would appear would be something like “Chen Lung (original name of Jackie Chen)” instead of “Ahmad”.

In the bible, Paracletos was directly proceeded from God. Any human ever proceed directly from God? Or, are you begin to give a Deity status to “Ahmad”?

 

[swariffin]

morning_star777;4298827:

**Yes, please punch your christian (Hitler) as much as you like. But do not disown him. He was a christian all his life, born as a christian, brought up as a christian, and he was a practicing christian. He had a cross on his uniform. All members of his Nazi party had the cross.

None of the church bodies disowned him. No one of the christians ever complained about him.

How can you run away from all these things? Trying to be clever?**

If Hitler is right in front of me, I would be more than happy to punch him or kick his ***, even he may be bigger than me. But, Jesus would allow me, only if I have committed no sin.

By the way, where do you learn anything about the Nazi. The iron cross of the Nazi is a military decoration for a perceived hero, militarily. Comparing a military decoration to a religious symbol is ridiculous. Next time, you would compare the intersection of 2 straight highways as a cross as seen from the above.

 

[swariffin]

Please do not bring in **thought **process. You have thought something wrong. Jesus also used to think. Once he was very hungry. He did not know that it was not the season for the figs.

He saw a fig tree. **He thought **he would be able to fill his belly. So he went to it to eat some figs. But there were no figs. Can you see the thought process? All he could do was to curse the poor fig tree for no fault of its own.

You have accused Muhammad of thought process and inventing a religion. I say your argument is very weak. It can be applied to christianity too. **Jesus thought **that he could get away with his harsh abusive preaching. But **his thought **was wrong. he was caught very quickly and put on the cross.

Please try something better next time.

Good answer Planten.

The Thorah said “Thou Shall not kill…”
Jesus said “Forgive your enemy…”
Mohammad said “Kill the unbeliever… Do not turn your back to the enemy…”

Who is inconsistent?

 

[swariffin]

Salaam/peace

Why is Polygamy allowed in Islam ?

Dr. Zakir Naik

…Qur’an is the only religious scripture in the world that says ‘marry only one’. …The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an: ‘Marry woman of your choice in twos’ threes’ or fours’ but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly, (with them), then only one’ [Al-Qur’an 4:3]

…Christian men were permitted as many wives as they wished, since the Bible puts no restriction on the number of wives. It was only a couple of centuries ago that the Church restricted the number of wives to one.

Polygyny is permitted in Judaism. According to Talmudic law, Abraham had 2 ( M W : actually 3 ) wives, and Solomon had hundreds of wives. The practice of polygyny continued till Rabbi Gershom ben Yehudah. (960 A.D to 1030 A.D) issued an edict against it.

The Jewish Sephardic communities living in Muslim countries continued the practice till as late as 1950, when an Act of the chief Rabbinate of Israel extended the ban on marrying more than one wife.

…Hindus are more polygamous than Muslims The report of the ‘Committee of The Status of Woman in Islam’, published in 1975 mentions on page numbers 66,67 that the percentage of polygamous marriages between the year 1951 -1961 was 5.06 among the Hindus and only 4.31 among the Muslims

…In the USA, women outnumber men by 7.8 million. New York alone has one million more females as compared to the number of males, and of the male population of New York one-third are gays i.e sodomites. The USA as a whole has more than twenty-five million gays. This means that these people do not wish to marry women.

Great Britain has four million more females as compared to males. Germany has five million more females as compared to males. Russia has nine million more females than males. God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males.

Restricting each and every man to have only one wife is not practical Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million more females in USA who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays).

There would be more than four million females in Great Britain 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia alone who would not be able to find a husband.

Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes public property. There is no other option. I have posed this question to hundreds of non-Muslims and all opted for the first. However a few smart people before accepting, said they would prefer their sisters to remain virgins.

Biologically, it is not possible for an average man or a woman to remain celibate throughout life. It may be possible in exceptional cases of one in ten thousand. In the vast majority, the person either gets married or performs illicit sex or indulges in other sexual perversions. Sex hormones are released in the adult body every day. That is the reason why Islam has prohibited monasticism.

In Western society it is common for a man to have mistresses and/or multiple extra-marital affairs, in which case, the woman leads a disgraceful, unprotected life. The same society, however, cannot accept a man having more than one wife, in which women retain their honourable, dignified position in society and lead a protected life.

Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become public property. Islam prefers giving women the honourable position by permitting the first option and disallowing the second. There are several other reasons, why Islam has permitted limited polygyny, but it is mainly to protect the modesty of women.

islamawareness.net/Polygamy/why.html

Dear Muslim Woman,

What a nice and legal and religous way if a husband like me, would like to have sex with another woman. I would stop believing in Jesus who clearly said in Mat 19 that **Originally GOD **planned for a man and a woman (in singular not plural). Then, I embrace Islam and marry another woman. Marry the third, marry the fourth, divorce the first and marry the fifth, divorce the second and marry the sixth, and so on… (By doing so, I still keep within the Quota of 4, right? Geeez… Muhammad should increase the quota to 365, so no divorce would be necessary and i can have a different woman for each day in a year. Don’t need to marry the 366th though, or I would have her only once in 4 years)
Just kidding everybody…

Will you marry me if I stop being a Christian, and be the one of the 365??? (Just joking, please don’t take it seriously). You will be a nice wife, I believe.