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Mi_Rose
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Thank you.
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Isca
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I would love this. I visited Atlanta many years ago (I’m a Brit), and the old-fashioned courtesy was so refreshing.
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Lormar
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I wonder if Father has spoken as well to the ladies - young and otherwise - who come to Mass in the summer dressed in tank tops in which they overflow 
and/or shorty-shorts in which their cheeks stick out. 
and/or shorty-shorts in which their cheeks stick out.
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Lormar
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You are correct. It was never “abrogated.” Simply relegated to the dust bin.
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Pup7
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I really don’t think worrying about men wearing ties is your hill to die on, my friend. I think men should wear suits if that’s how they were raised and that’s what they’re comfortable in. My dad wore a shirt and tie to Mass consistently because he was raised that way.
Their cleaning bills aren’t yours.
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JackMcCoy
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Pup, I hear and respect what you are saying.
A nice shirt and pair of slacks is fine, for men or women.
But I have seen folks wearing T-shirts and shorts. That just does not seem respectful to me. Even in the summertime.
All I ask is that folks dress nicely.
Most people I see at Mass do dress nicely.
A nice shirt and pair of slacks is fine, for men or women.
But I have seen folks wearing T-shirts and shorts. That just does not seem respectful to me. Even in the summertime.
All I ask is that folks dress nicely.
Most people I see at Mass do dress nicely.
Tis_Bearself
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Well, it’s 90 degrees out and I am going to chapel in my t-shirt (with a simple design, I don’t wear the crazy concert ones) and a pair of knee shorts.
I don’t think Jesus will mind.
I don’t think Jesus will mind.
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Pup7
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I agree with that to a point on Sundays specifically. Tank tops and shorts and flip flops in my mind just aren’t appropriate regardless of the weather. We dressed up for church when I was a kid in the South with no A/C…Pup, I hear and respect what you are saying.
A nice shirt and pair of slacks is fine, for men or women.
But I have seen folks wearing T-shirts and shorts. That just does not seem respectful to me. Even in the summertime.
All I ask is that folks dress nicely.
Most people I see at Mass do dress nicely.
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Augustinian
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A lot of churches around here, particularly Catholic churches really aren’t that hot even in the summer.
Tall ceilings in a masonry building , acts like a chimney and sucks most of the heat right up into the rafters.
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PrisonerOfChrist
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A priest once told me whenever something eccentric happens at mass, the people criticize the priest for allowing it to happen and he has to justify it. Although the priest should be on the woman’s side, I can appreciate the mitigating circumstances. The burden is on the priest alot of the times
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CilladeRoma
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Then please explain Canon 6 that I posted up thread, which very specifically says the 1917 code was abrogated.
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PetraG
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I don’t think “would it harm you to mind your own business” is an impossible burden. It seems like an easier rule for fielding parishioner complaints that are none of their concern, from a pastoral standpoint.
If a pastor has corrected someone a dozen times about their dress, it is no one’s business to hear about that. They can mind their own business with far more profit than harm.
“I can see what each of you wears. When I see fit to issue any of you a personal correction, I won’t be notifying anyone else about it. I think that is to your spiritual benefit. Do we understand each other?”
It also nips the tattle-tales in the bud, and that really is to their spiritual benefit.
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PetraG
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I agree, but my rules only extend as far as my authority does.
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JulianN
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It was abrogated. The entire 1917 Code where it appeared was abrogated.
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Margaret_Ann
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If you received an invitation from the White House to a state banquet for diplomats, would you go in a T-shirt and a pair of knee shorts or wear your best dress?
I’m sure you’d agree that a lady should wear her best to a state banquet at the White House.
So…if you’d wear your very best dress to the White House for a state function, why shouldn’t you wear your best for the Divine Liturgy /Holy Mass, which is the Sacrifice of the Lamb of God Who takes away the sins of the world and the wedding banquet of the King of Kings???
St. Therese, the Little Flower, issued wedding invitations for her final vows.
I’m sure you’d agree that a lady should wear her best to a state banquet at the White House.
So…if you’d wear your very best dress to the White House for a state function, why shouldn’t you wear your best for the Divine Liturgy /Holy Mass, which is the Sacrifice of the Lamb of God Who takes away the sins of the world and the wedding banquet of the King of Kings???
St. Therese, the Little Flower, issued wedding invitations for her final vows.
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Gertabelle
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I don’t know the state diplomats at this banquet. I don’t have an intimate friendship with the President of the United States. I’m not BFFs with anyone at the White House.
I would hope, please God, my relationship with Our Lord is little less formal than a formal diplomatic gathering.
Yes, she did draw up a wedding invitation for her final vows. What on earth does that have to do with this topic?
Tis_Bearself
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Jesus is my brother, my friend. He loves me. He is not some diplomat who has a dress code. He does not need me to impress him with my clothing. And I am not there to impress other people with my clothing.
I feel free to wear the same thing to see Jesus that I would wear to see my mom or dad - something clean, comfortable, and practical for the weather.
While I was at Benediction, I noticed another lady there who was, like me, in shorts and a T-shirt. She is also at the daily Mass and Rosary recitation most days at that church. I think Jesus is quite happy with her also. Perhaps more than with the person who spends an hour dressing up for Sunday Mass and then doesn’t darken the church door again till next Sunday.
YMMV.
I feel free to wear the same thing to see Jesus that I would wear to see my mom or dad - something clean, comfortable, and practical for the weather.
While I was at Benediction, I noticed another lady there who was, like me, in shorts and a T-shirt. She is also at the daily Mass and Rosary recitation most days at that church. I think Jesus is quite happy with her also. Perhaps more than with the person who spends an hour dressing up for Sunday Mass and then doesn’t darken the church door again till next Sunday.
YMMV.
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Lea101
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Exactly. I actually don’t dress up well enough or even put on as much makeup as I normally do when I go for Mass because I feel that’s the only place I feel comfortable in looking bad, lol.
It’s worth noting that this sort of stuff really depends on the person’s intention. If I dress the exact same way because I feel like I don’t respect Mass enough, we would have a problem. But I dress the way I do because I feel confident enough to be a little more authentic to God, if that makes sense.
It’s worth noting that this sort of stuff really depends on the person’s intention. If I dress the exact same way because I feel like I don’t respect Mass enough, we would have a problem. But I dress the way I do because I feel confident enough to be a little more authentic to God, if that makes sense.
Tis_Bearself
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Yeah, we’ve been over this a lot before.
In past eras, men and women only had a few sets of clothes. People who could afford it were expected to have “street clothes” that they wore when they went out in the community for social visits, lunch, errands or to wear to a job that didn’t involve manual labor. A man would have a suit and a woman would have a dress or suit, with a hat, stockings and dress shoes. So when they went to church in a suit or a dress, they were wearing what they would normally be wearing to go out and about. Some people who were poor or were going to Mass right before or right after manual labor jobs would be there in jeans or overalls out of necessity.
Nowadays, many if not most of us don’t wear suits and dresses to our normal workday. We wear business casual. When we go out to make social calls or do errands, we’re often in jeans and a t-shirt. It makes sense that people would wear the clothes to Mass that they wear for every day. If somebody wanted to get dressed up out of respect for the Lord, then fine. If somebody wanted to wear knee shorts because it is hot and rainy outside, then also fine.
The problem comes when one person decides they are the boss of what somebody else should be wearing to Mass. The only “boss” should be the pastor of the church, because it’s his church, his rules. There are some churches where people are asked via a sign to not wear shorts (considering the neighborhood one of these churches is in, “shorts” around there tend to be “booty shorts”, not baggy khaki LL Bean cargo shorts, and it’s also a monastery church). I abide by the posted rule. Most pastors just want to see you there, praying, and are not interested in policing people’s clothing unless somebody came in a swimsuit or something super extreme like that, which I have never seen happen.
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JulianN
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If you receive an invitation to attend Sunday dinner at your family’s home, do you dress as if you are going to a wedding?
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