Assault weapons are weapons of war

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Ill bet everything I own the 1,000 US Military members will bruttaly crush and decimate the hundred million rebels or freedom fighters or wharever you wanna call em.
you just need to look to afghanistan to know this isn’t true. the taliban held off the russians and we didn’t defeat them. they are still there.

politics will stop the military from winning just like it did in the middle east.
 
The public cannot own modern weaponized tanks.
the only reason is cost nothing else. if you have enough money you can buy it. i have posted on this in the past. there is a website to view what is available on the market. it only takes money

look at spacex. can his rockets be militarized?
 
Take a neighborhood of 100 steely-eyed, AR15 toting veterans who kept themselves in reasonable fighting shape and pit them against a lonely Abrams tank stationed at the entrance to their neighborhood - I’m betting on the tank 10 times out of 10. The veterans might as well be throwing snowballs at it…
it won’t go down that way. the tank will be sitting alone in the street.

you’ll have to go door to door to find those 100 ar-toters. someone described it very well in another thread. it will be a guerrilla war and the government won’t know who the enemy is

we do not round up terrorist now so why do you think it will be different with home grown revolutionaries?
 
I’ll bet if you encountered a suspect wielding a semi auto AK-47 with a banana clip loaded down with Armor piercing rounds - I’d bet my bottom dollar then you’d wished to God you’d supported legislation that could have stopped that awesome weaponry from being used on you.
i’d be thanking God we have the right to equally equip ourselves against the opposition. i’d place my faith in my training over a criminal who usually isn’t as trained as the enthusiast.

shooting is a hobby with benefits!

i’d be more upset staring at this criminal, if laws were in place banning the gun he held because he will have his but the law abiding won’t have theirs!
 
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Take a neighborhood of 100 steely-eyed, AR15 toting veterans who kept themselves in reasonable fighting shape and pit them against a lonely Abrams tank stationed at the entrance to their neighborhood - I’m betting on the tank 10 times out of 10. The veterans might as well be throwing snowballs at it…
it won’t go down that way. the tank will be sitting alone in the street.

you’ll have to go door to door to find those 100 ar-toters. someone described it very well in another thread. it will be a guerrilla war and the government won’t know who the enemy is
No need. They’re in their houses. Merely control the access points and logistical sites and they’ll eventually have to come to you. Declare martial law - no weapons in the open unless you’re in uniform or shot on sight.
Related, I’d hate to be one of the 2 or 3 preppers with 30 days stored food in that crowd. After a week, your allegiance with those other 97 or 98 will start to get a little… famished?

Anecdotes aside, your AR will do nothing to overthrow the modern government if it turned tyrannical to your particular people. You just don’t have anything remotely approaching the technological edge. 100 cavemen against the same setup would fare about as poorly.
we do not round up terrorist now so why do you think it will be different with home grown revolutionaries?
Oh the heck we don’t. Ever heard of Fallujah?
 
They’re in their houses.
who are the they?
Merely control the access points and logistical sites and they’ll eventually have to come to you.
everybody will come out. how do you tell them apart?
Declare martial law - no weapons in the open
why would a limited number of resistors do anything in public?
your AR will do nothing to overthrow the modern government
because it isn’t the gun. i doubt you would see any street fighting at all.
 
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Ill bet everything I own the 1,000 US Military members will bruttaly crush and decimate the hundred million rebels or freedom fighters or wharever you wanna call em.
I have confidence in the military so long as they are properly trained, allowed to use that training and have the tools they need.

However, people can only move so fast and can’t be 2 places at once.
 
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They’re in their houses.
who are the they?
Merely control the access points and logistical sites and they’ll eventually have to come to you.
everybody will come out. how do you tell them apart?
Declare martial law - no weapons in the open
why would a limited number of resistors do anything in public?
your AR will do nothing to overthrow the modern government
because it isn’t the gun. i doubt you would see any street fighting at all.
Hmmm, so if there’s no street fighting, where is this guerilla war you mentioned?
Surely you’d agree that after the initiation of hostilities, all the sensitive governmental and economic sites would be hardened. You couldn’t approach them uncontested holding any sorts of arms.

Naturally, the government would have the control over the broader macro-economy. Large-scale inflows of arms into your area would stop. You’d just get what little you could sneak in…

Sounds like your revolution isn’t doing very well. And I don’t think the French are going to help this time. Not in the nuclear age…
 
it is not my revolution. i believe in the ballot box

it just won’t happen the way you see it.

it will be the way of current terrorist acts: just on a grander scale.

you won’t know who the enemy is.

look at france, do you see the revolution that is taking place; really all of europe.
 
a good precedent here for banning assault weapons (?)
in United States v. Miller, in 1939, the Supreme Court said the government regulations on shotguns with barrels less than 18 inches (from the 1934 National Firearms Act) was not unconstitutional because such weapons were not ordinary military equipment. It would then seem to follow that if it was ordinary military equipment the restrictions would have been unconstitutional. if AR-15’s really are “weapons of war” (ie military equipment) then it seems they would be protected under the second amendment using the precedent from US v Miller.
 
Using a bomb is illegal, not having a match and a can of gasoline. You can use ‘tools’ for legal purposes or illegal purposes.
 
And making a bomb? For instance, possessing explosives “in suspicious circumstances” is illegal in Britain (max sentence imprisonment for life) with the defendant required to show the objects are possessed for a lawful purpose. Possessing explosive precursors without a licence is illegal in Britain. And so on. Anything similar in US, or is bomb-making protected under the Second Amendment?
 
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