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Steven_John
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In our parish RCIA is a very weak at teaching about catholic belief, they just say nice things about Sundays gospel and if you question anything or ask about catholic teaching the priests tells you this is not the place for this we will talk privately some time. after not hearing form him i visit his house and he is very hospitable but cant discuss the bible as he does not have one at his house. No prizes for guessing i did not make confirmation. God loves me and i aspire to love Him fully so in good conscience could not confirm to the “Catholic” witness
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firstmode
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I disagree with your assessment.
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1holycatholic
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It’s Christ whom you disagree with, not me.
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firstmode
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I realize that you are making a Protestant Vs. Catholic Debate right now, that I disagree with Christ because I am not a part of the church you attend (Catholic Church) which you claim is the only church of Christ and no others are of his.
Since many men greater than us have debated this since around 1054AD, rather than debating this point for the millionth time in history I will end with saying that I disagree that you are right about what you said. You may not consider me a brother in Christ as I am not a part of the church you are affiliated with, but I just want to let you know that I love you Brother and that through Christ we will all be unified again one day and that I hope all goes well with you in your Journey with Christ.
Thank you for discussing these many points with me, there are a lot of points we disagree on, but I know that together we are both fighting against the influence this world has on the holiness that is Christ!
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1holycatholic
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It’s Christ whom you disagree with, not me.
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Walden
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Firstmode, don’t leave yet!
I’ve been lurking on this thread and I had a question for you. Where does the Church of God fit in with the AoG? Also, is there any “familial” relation with the Church of God in Christ and the AoG?
Thanks!
I’ve been lurking on this thread and I had a question for you. Where does the Church of God fit in with the AoG? Also, is there any “familial” relation with the Church of God in Christ and the AoG?
Thanks!
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4Squarebaby
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If I may. After Azusa Street which had a high black participation in leadership the pentecostal movement begin to split along racial grounds. COGIC in particular being black and in Jim Crow America that couldn’t stand. Over the years the churches split further apart there being a lot more white folk then black the AoG became the much larger denomination.
Today it is hard to find AoG churches in black communities because of the historical racial split.
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Walden
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You may!
Thank you…I was trying to keep Firstmode from being run off, not necessarily just asking him
That makes sense. Many churches were segregated like that. They’re still around for the most part, especially here. (ex. A.M.E., C.M.E.)
Some posters earlier were mentioning Anti-Catholic sentiment within the AoG. From my perspective, I haven’t noticed much at all. In the south (with a few exceptions), Catholics are such a minority that protestants in general don’t really pay attention to us.
Church splits cause most of the drama down here. Loyalty oaths and all…
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4Squarebaby
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If I remember the history right COGIC mainly in the west and the Church of God in the east were the original denominations and the white folk couldn’t stand having black leaders. Differing from the AME or Missionary Baptist. AoG started up because the whites would not accept the leadership of what were known as colored people at the time.You may!
Thank you…I was trying to keep Firstmode from being run off, not necessarily just asking him
That makes sense. Many churches were segregated like that. They’re still around for the most part, especially here. (ex. A.M.E., C.M.E.)
Some posters earlier were mentioning Anti-Catholic sentiment within the AoG. From my perspective, I haven’t noticed much at all. In the south (with a few exceptions), Catholics are such a minority that protestants in general don’t really pay attention to us.
Church splits cause most of the drama down here. Loyalty oaths and all…
Other pentecostal denominations also begin in the same time period. Sometimes the only difference you can find in the denominations are in leadership style, not theology.
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Cam-masta
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A good question to ask them is if the Bible alone is so crystal clear regarding the Trinity, Baptism and tongues, why does the UPCI exist? There are several other splits within the Pentecostal realm, let alone Evangelicalism in general and the whole of Protestanism in particular. Tell them to look in the Yellow Pages under “churches”. All those denominations point at one another and say “look it’s in your Bible!” Then they split split split because each individual pastor/layman is apparently an infallible Bible interpreter. The Baptists say “the Bible says the gifts ended with the Apostles!” and the Pentecostals say “no you dead Baptists, the Scriptures are clear that the gifts end after the Resurrection!” Meanwhile the UPCI is saying “Both of you are dead! There is no Trinity and you have to speak in tongues to go to Heaven…the Bible says so !” Sorry, the only answer is the Catholic Church: **ONE **, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic
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firstmode
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firstmode
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Church of God in Christ and the Assemblies of God are Sister Denominations that work together in many instances. I have read the history and the Church of God in Christ had many black members and the first AoG ministers were ordained in CoGiC and then left to start AoG. They have identical beliefs except that CoGiC has foot washing as an ordinance of the church.You may!
Thank you…I was trying to keep Firstmode from being run off, not necessarily just asking him
That makes sense. Many churches were segregated like that. They’re still around for the most part, especially here. (ex. A.M.E., C.M.E.)
Some posters earlier were mentioning Anti-Catholic sentiment within the AoG. From my perspective, I haven’t noticed much at all. In the south (with a few exceptions), Catholics are such a minority that protestants in general don’t really pay attention to us.
Church splits cause most of the drama down here. Loyalty oaths and all…
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firstmode
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You can say that the Catholic Church is the only one, but i think the Orthodox Church has much more merit to take that position and that the Catholic Church is in Schism with the Orthodox church who rightly saw that binding and loosing and the keys were given to all disciples.
I guess we will all have to wait until we meet Christ on that day to find out who was right, but I believe that anyone who seeks Christ and lived their lives for him are all going to be unified together in those last days in Heaven.
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1holycatholic
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You speak the Orthodox as if they were a unified body. They aren’t even all in communion with each other. The bishops of the east acknowledged the primacy of the pope prior to 1054.
In any case, if you believed what you were saying you would be Orthodox and have all seven Sacraments established by Christ. Instead you have just two Sacraments because you choose to reject Christ’s Church for one started in 1914 by someone other than Christ.
It’s Christ whom you disagree with, not me.
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LegoGE1947
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A good example of this is a denomination called Open Bible Standard Churches. They are headquartered in Des Moines, Iowa and in the state of Oregon. The only difference there between them and AoG is the leadership. There is not a dimes worth of difference in the theology. In our city of Rockford, AoG’s welcome black, white, yellow, you name it as brothers and sisters. it is probably different in other places but in Northern Illinois it seems we look on the heart not the skin. There are black folks that are accepted in the Catholic Church as well Only wish there were more of them that would accept us.
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LegoGE1947
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Speaking of the Bible some can’t even agree on that! Some use only the KJV others, the RSV or the NIV or the NKJV or NASB or whatever.
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4Squarebaby
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My church is little different then the AoG. we may be a bit more Presbyterian and they a bit more congregational but that is it. Also as an evangelist Sister Aimee was known for breaking the Jim Crow codes as she traveled, so today Foursquare along with the Catholic Church and United Methodist are among the few that reach all levels of Black as well as the general society. Most mainline Protestant Churches only reach the elite of the Black community. As the current thread on blacks and the Catholic Church is saying it will take black leadership for more to join. Perhaps when the first African is elected Pope.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=320064
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graceandglory
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This page, which links to the Website of the General Council of the Assemblies of God explains it better than I can.
Actually, that’s not totally true.
Every year at council, they vote on doctrine at the general council meeting of pastors.
It’s quite shocking to see what is “up for debate” on a regular basis.
Things that never change within the Catholic Church and never will be “up for debate” come up just as the wind blows, just as scripture says it will; while the “gates of hell will not prevail” against the one holy catholic and apostolic church.
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LegoGE1947
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Back when Pope John Paul II died there was an Archbishop from Africa who looked like he would have a very good chance to become Pope. Cardinal Arinze(?)
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