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Why Do Some Pro-Choicers Find it Hard to Say “Babies Should Get Human Rights At Birth”?
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hawkeye
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When the man and woman become one.Why Do Some Pro-Choicers Find it Hard to Say “Babies Should Get Human Rights At Birth”?
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PLAL
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For Practicing Catholic this is an easy answer = At Conception.
Why do some Pro-Choicers have a hard time EVEN stating “AT BIRTH”?
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Why do some Pro-Choicers have a hard time EVEN stating “AT BIRTH”?
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Starwynd
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Okay, if babies have full rights as adult humans then they should be allowed to vote. Allowed to drink smoke and drive a car at any age.
After all, there is no difference between a baby an an adult.
After all, there is no difference between a baby an an adult.
Mary_Gail_36
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Six year olds are not allowed to vote, drink, smoke or drive cars. But they are protected by law from being murdered.Okay, if babies have full rights as adult humans then they should be allowed to vote. Allowed to drink smoke and drive a car at any age.
After all, there is no difference between a baby an an adult.
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Brenda_V
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Actually babies whose moms “want them” from the time of birth have the same protection, they also have protection from bodily harm by law!Six year olds are not allowed to vote, drink, smoke or drive cars. But they are protected by law from being murdered.
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Nechasin
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This should say that babies that are wanted from the moment of conception are protected from being murdered. At least in California and Texas, I know of cases where murderers of pregnant mothers were successfully charged and convicted of 2 counts of murder.Actually babies whose moms “want them” from the time of birth have the same protection, they also have protection from bodily harm by law!
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hawkeye
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Catch a grip, we have to learn to crawl before we can walk, unless you did otherwise.Okay, if babies have full rights as adult humans then they should be allowed to vote. Allowed to drink smoke and drive a car at any age.
Even a blind man or woman can tell the difference, but to you…ok…no.After all, there is no difference between a baby an an adult.
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StarPaintedBlue
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To say that if a baby has full human rights that they should be able to vote, drink and drive is just ridiculous. A baby can’t be responsible for it’s actions or make decisions or learn something complicated like driving a car. It can, however, feel pain, fear, stress…all reasons that child abuse and child murder are illegal even though babies do not vote, drink or drive.
As for the question…I always say “Zygote”. In other words, when the sperm meets egg, you’ve got a baby. Not a fetus. A BABY.
For the people that roll their eyes at that comment, I ask them to consider how random the act of pregnancy is. Tens of thousands of sperm fighting to reach a single egg, and they are all going to die expect that one that may possiblity make it to the egg and then into the egg. It’s not a random act when a zygote occurs, there is a method behind the madness and to me that method is God’s hand.
As for the question…I always say “Zygote”. In other words, when the sperm meets egg, you’ve got a baby. Not a fetus. A BABY.
For the people that roll their eyes at that comment, I ask them to consider how random the act of pregnancy is. Tens of thousands of sperm fighting to reach a single egg, and they are all going to die expect that one that may possiblity make it to the egg and then into the egg. It’s not a random act when a zygote occurs, there is a method behind the madness and to me that method is God’s hand.
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JimG
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Pro-choice politicians are afraid to say “at birth” because that would mean that they favor abortion through all nine months of pregnancy, or at least that they have no good reason to oppose it. And the don’t want to come out that strongly in favor of abortion.Why Do Some Pro-Choicers Find it Hard to Say “Babies Should Get Human Rights At Birth”?
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And if they give some earlier point, say 4 months, 6, months, 8 months, then they foreclose abortions at and after that point, and they don’t want to foreclose the possibility of any abortion.
I think their real answer is that babies get human rights whenever we say they do, or perhaps, babies get human rights whenever the mother grants them. But they don’t want to say that either.
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Tietjen
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At conception.
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Nick9
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The Church teaches that at conception the embryo should be treated as a person with the same rights, the first being the right to life (SCDF, Donum Vitae, I, 1).
**At What Point Does a Baby Get Human Rights in Your View?
The Church teaches that at conception the embryo should be treated as a person with the same rights, the first being the right to life (SCDF, Donum Vitae, I, 1).
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Biggie
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A right does not bestow an ability.Okay, if babies have full rights as adult humans then they should be allowed to vote. Allowed to drink smoke and drive a car at any age.
After all, there is no difference between a baby an an adult.
The phrase “human rights” is just a way to try to innoculate and confuse the “beginning of life” dilemna abortion advocates find themselves in. If they would merely concede that abortion is murder, the dilemna would end, but another obvious problem would emerge - they would be advocating murder. So they desperately need to find a euphemism that allows their conscience to escape.
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manualman
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Voting, drinking, smoking, etc. are not human rights inherent to the dignity of the human person. They are all priviledges bestowed upon those judged to have the responsibility to handle them.
Pro-choicers have a major problem in that they are unable to demonstrate any significant point in human development where a true change in substance occurs. Anything they suggest is so obviously arbitrary and convenience-based, that they recognize that it is better to dodge the issue altogether.
Unlike pro-choicers, pro-lifers correctly note that at conception an entirely new and unique DNA code if formed by the fusion of sperm and egg. A true change in substance is scientifically proveable. Thus, we conclude that conception is the only defensible place to determine personhood.
Pro-choicers have a major problem in that they are unable to demonstrate any significant point in human development where a true change in substance occurs. Anything they suggest is so obviously arbitrary and convenience-based, that they recognize that it is better to dodge the issue altogether.
Unlike pro-choicers, pro-lifers correctly note that at conception an entirely new and unique DNA code if formed by the fusion of sperm and egg. A true change in substance is scientifically proveable. Thus, we conclude that conception is the only defensible place to determine personhood.
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Catholic90
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The original question was “HUMAN RIGHTS”, not ADULT RIGHTS. Read carefully, Starwynd.Okay, if babies have full rights as adult humans then they should be allowed to vote. Allowed to drink smoke and drive a car at any age.
After all, there is no difference between a baby an an adult.
Babies should have full rights as humans as soon as they are one - at conception.
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Br.Rich_SFO
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A Baby should receive Human Rights when they become Human.Why Do Some Pro-Choicers Find it Hard to Say “Babies Should Get Human Rights At Birth”?
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At Conception is when they are fully human! This can be proved with DNA testing.
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Br.Rich_SFO
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Those are not “Human Rights” . Every Human does not have a right to vote, every Human does not have a Right to drink, smoke or drive.Okay, if babies have full rights as adult humans then they should be allowed to vote. Allowed to drink smoke and drive a car at any age.
After all, there is no difference between a baby an an adult.
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East_and_West
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Don’t be silly. The right to life is not even in the same category as the right to vote. While the right to vote, which is not a natural right but one granted by a governing body, must be granted prudently, the right to life, which is a natural right, is universal for all human beings, period!Okay, if babies have full rights as adult humans then they should be allowed to vote. Allowed to drink smoke and drive a car at any age.
After all, there is no difference between a baby an an adult.
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estesbob
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At the moment of conceptionWhy Do Some Pro-Choicers Find it Hard to Say “Babies Should Get Human Rights At Birth”?
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estesbob
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A six year old can’t vote. Does that mean we can chop them into little pieces and throw them out with the garbage?Okay, if babies have full rights as adult humans then they should be allowed to vote. Allowed to drink smoke and drive a car at any age.
After all, there is no difference between a baby an an adult.
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