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 To preface, I am a non-theist. I'm not opposed to God, I just can't bring myself to believe in Him. I was a Methodist until I was 19, then practiced Catholicism for a year before coming to the conclusion that I don't believe in a personal God. (I guess I am actually agnostic as I believe potentially in a divine power, but this doesn't play an active role in my life.) I will likely post about my deconversion in another thread. I'd love to hear y'alls thoughts on it. Anyways...

 While I was a practicing convert, (hence my name) I was very involved. I attended daily mass, worked LIGHT, ACTS, and Awakening retreats, I live with a great group of Catholic men, and was active several other ways in the Church. I am so thankful for the experience because it allows me to understand the Catholic Church on a whole new level. I wanted to mention that so you guys will kind of understand where I am at, and how I was spiritually active.
 Throughout my involvement I met a young woman who has become a good friend of mine. We each think the other to be a great match for ourselves in all areas except the one obvious thing: Faith. I don't believe in Christian dogma, but I found a lot of objective truth in it. I can see the beauty in abstaining sexually until marriage, the view of contraception, the Holy Mass, etc...I may not believe in the faith, but I could support hers. I understand the Faith. 

With all this in mind, what are yall's thoughts on our relationship? Do you think I can be a good enough husband for her down the line as an atheist? As Catholics, do you believe I will always be incompetent, or can I become a not just good enough husband, but an optimal one. 

Thanks for the (name removed by moderator)ut, looking forward to discussing with you guys!
Peace be with you,
Joseph
 
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With all this in mind, what are yall's thoughts on our relationship? Do you think I can be a good enough husband for her down the line as an atheist? As Catholics, do you believe I will always be incompetent, or can I become a not just good enough husband, but an optimal one.
The only person who can answer that questions is your girlfriend. A lot of Catholic men don’t make good husbands, so there is a lot of other things besides faith to consider.

If you want my opinion, I would never marry and atheist because it would cause a lot of inconveniences, but that is just me
 
Not making a judgement, just presenting some considerations…

Joseph there is a loneliness for both in not sharing what is a deeply significant part of one’s spouse’s life. I know that personal loneliness as my husband is a lapsed Catholic convert also. He also " tried my very best but there was no response."

A father’s unbelief and non-practice of faith can have an impact on the children whom the Catholic knows he or she has serious responsibility to raise in love of God.
Certainly, an agnostic or atheist can live by and witness Christian values.

If she is deeply grounded in her faith, your Catholic friend is the one who suffers the most loss…and potentially the children, because even if you allow her to speak of faith issues, she knows she must be careful not to exasperate and thereby cause relationship issues. She goes to church alone, as it’s difficult for an unbeliever to live through ceremony and song he or she can’t believe is other than fantasy-based. She has to accept also the impact that a father to whom the children look for guidance does not believe…so perhaps faith is sentimental women’s business? Children draw their own conclusions because they are observant even of things we wish they were not.

It isn’t the case that unbelief means you will be a bad husband. My own husband is witness of that, and he never at any time attempts to impede me. He is an unbelieving Christian, and I trust him to God.

May God whom you have not yet found, guide you both.
 
Hello all!
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 To preface, I am a non-theist. I'm not opposed to God, I just can't bring myself to believe in Him. I was a Methodist until I was 19, then practiced Catholicism for a year before coming to the conclusion that I don't believe in a personal God. (I guess I am actually agnostic as I believe potentially in a divine power, but this doesn't play an active role in my life.) I will likely post about my deconversion in another thread. I'd love to hear y'alls thoughts on it. Anyways...

 While I was a practicing convert, (hence my name) I was very involved. I attended daily mass, worked LIGHT, ACTS, and Awakening retreats, I live with a great group of Catholic men, and was active several other ways in the Church. I am so thankful for the experience because it allows me to understand the Catholic Church on a whole new level. I wanted to mention that so you guys will kind of understand where I am at, and how I was spiritually active.
 Throughout my involvement I met a young woman who has become a good friend of mine. We each think the other to be a great match for ourselves in all areas except the one obvious thing: Faith. I don't believe in Christian dogma, but I found a lot of objective truth in it. I can see the beauty in abstaining sexually until marriage, the view of contraception, the Holy Mass, etc...I may not believe in the faith, but I could support hers. I understand the Faith. 

With all this in mind, what are yall's thoughts on our relationship? Do you think I can be a good enough husband for her down the line as an atheist? As Catholics, do you believe I will always be incompetent, or can I become a not just good enough husband, but an optimal one. 

Thanks for the (name removed by moderator)ut, looking forward to discussing with you guys!
Peace be with you,
Joseph
Thanks for your honesty. You are going to have to consider what type of message it sends to children to have one parent believing in God and practicing the faith and another who isn’t. Also, how are you going to look at this in the long run with her going to Church and you not, her doing things at Church and you not, her giving to the Church. It is easy to say “I’ll be supportive” but what does that mean in the long run and with children in the middle? Those are the real honest questions you need to ask yourself. In all honesty, I as a person of faith couldn’t marry someone that doesn’t share it. The adage “the family that prays together, stays together” is very true and you can’t pray together if one doesn’t believe in God.
 
Hello all!
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 To preface, I am a non-theist. I'm not opposed to God, I just can't bring myself to believe in Him. I was a Methodist until I was 19, then practiced Catholicism for a year before coming to the conclusion that I don't believe in a personal God. (I guess I am actually agnostic as I believe potentially in a divine power, but this doesn't play an active role in my life.) I will likely post about my deconversion in another thread. I'd love to hear y'alls thoughts on it. Anyways...

 While I was a practicing convert, (hence my name) I was very involved. I attended daily mass, worked LIGHT, ACTS, and Awakening retreats, I live with a great group of Catholic men, and was active several other ways in the Church. I am so thankful for the experience because it allows me to understand the Catholic Church on a whole new level. I wanted to mention that so you guys will kind of understand where I am at, and how I was spiritually active.
 Throughout my involvement I met a young woman who has become a good friend of mine. We each think the other to be a great match for ourselves in all areas except the one obvious thing: Faith. I don't believe in Christian dogma, but I found a lot of objective truth in it. I can see the beauty in abstaining sexually until marriage, the view of contraception, the Holy Mass, etc...I may not believe in the faith, but I could support hers. I understand the Faith. 

With all this in mind, what are yall's thoughts on our relationship? Do you think I can be a good enough husband for her down the line as an atheist? As Catholics, do you believe I will always be incompetent, or can I become a not just good enough husband, but an optimal one. 

Thanks for the (name removed by moderator)ut, looking forward to discussing with you guys!
Peace be with you,
Joseph
Well, the problem mainly comes if you were to ever marry. She would be going to church, and you would go on with your life. Would you ever pray together?

Then, if you have children, in order to marry in the Catholic Church, you would need to agree to raise any children Catholic.

In the best of times, you would probably sleep in, and she, and the kids, would go to mass.

What would happen if one of the kids sees you sleeping in, says, “Why can´t I sleep in and stay with Dad?”

Later on, would you be agreeable to Natural Family Planning, if it ever became an issue, abstaining from sexual activity on her fertile days?

An atheist-Catholic combination is hard, because Catholicism impacts on pretty much every aspect of daily life.

Would you be willing to allow her to have religious pictures and statues in the house?

Could you respect her if she talked about the Church and pope, priests and religious?

It would affect her, also, politically.

Often, differences don´t fully manifest during dating but moreso after marriage or children.

The Catholic parent would want the child baptized, want to insist on it, really.

It affects how we behave and relate…that we would not believe in certain sexual practices, even after married, contraception, even within marriage.

It’s often even hard for fellow Christians and Catholics to get along due to differences, and that is within believers. This is only amplified with an atheist.

Some Christians have referred to marrying an atheist as being “unevenly yoked”, in that one person is doing all the spiritual legwork while the other coasts.

I have a friend who was married, now divorced. He married a girl from Vietnam, and he was into the Church of the Nazarene, tithed, giving 10% of his income to the Church. His wife had a problem with that, saw that as a waste of money.

He was also on their board, and I imagine that probably wouldn´t have gone over well, either, as a waste of time, as well.

It would be hard to have an atheist-believer combination.

I was married to an agnostic. When we married, I was away from my faith. When I found it, it caused some problems in our relationship. Some friends actually thought if I wouldn´t have found my faith that we would still be together today, but I don´t think so. Still, it was very hard having my faith that was important and not being so much as ever be able to pray with my husband.

At Thanksgiving dinner, he’d actually up and leave the room when somebody ever tried to say grace! He would leave the room at political events when we said the Pledge of Allegiance and came to the words, “Under God”. He would refuse to say them.

As I say, it was quite hard. People have done it, so apparently, it´s not impossible, but it´s no easy thing.
 
I think that a mixed religion household involving a believer and a non-believer is very hard on children and very lonely for the believing spouse.

How would you support her in raising the children in a faith you do not believe in? How would you raise your children to worship a God you don’t believe in?
 
Hi and welcome. What a thoughtful and reflective question. A very important one that will determine the direction of your life and this lovely friend of yours.

I want to speak about Lazarus resting in the bosom of Abraham and the poor unnamed soul suffering in Hades. Luke 16:19 There is the obvious lesson to be learned in this parable but a hidden one as well. It is also an illustration of the believing Catholic and the unbeliever with a wide chasm between them. In the life of the believer, they have the consolation of the Holy Trinity every time they kneel in prayer. All the struggles and sufferings in life are lessened because they have the great privilege, because of the death and resurrection of Christ, to enjoy the friendship (no, not intimate enough) rather the relationship as an adopted son of God. Meanwhile, the unbeliever is separated by a great chasm, suffering with no consolation. Crying out with no one to comfort them.

Looking at this illustration, it seems you’ve found yourself in the unbeliever’s place. Please cry out to God and persist in crying out, to be restored to His friendship. This great chasm cannot be bridged by ourselves but by the King of Kings who bridged the gap for us. Christmas is the perfect time to call out to God. It is my great privilege to share this good news today on this awesome day that the world celebrates the birth of our Saviour. May he be reborn in you today. We have missed you, we need you and your gifts to be plugged back in. We are weaker without you with us.
For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6
 
Some believe the best way to lead is by our example.

Statistics have shown that, in a family, the role of the father is actually a strong one. If a mother goes to church and all, it´s one thing. If the FATHER attends church and does all the rest, it´s as if that, in and of itself, is a powerful statement. I know we, children, stood up and took notice.

In my own family, my father never missed mass, not ever, despite the fact I’m from a family of eleven. For decades, my father worked 2 jobs, came home and had to tend to the house. I can never, ever, remember them calling in a roofer, plumber, electrician, or carpenter, because he did all of that.

He’d garden during his summers “off” as a teacher.

I think it was a powerful statement when I saw my father also get down on his knees and pray the rosary with my mother, or with us, as a family. To me, all that underlined the importance of it.

If he had never once gone to mass, any lectures he would have tried to give on the importance of mass attendance to us would have come across as insincere and hypocritical.

I think back, wonder how it would have been if it had only been us and my mother, if we would have had the powerful example. No, I don´t think it would have been.

Well, when we went into church, it was as a family, together. My parents went to mass together for years and years, decade after decade.

In their later years, I think for decades, they got on their knees together, nightly, usually in the privacy of their bedroom, and prayed the rosary together. If one of us who was Catholic was visiting, we were welcome to pray with them.

To me, it was a unwritten statement of a kind of unity, fidelity, and strength.

When a practicing Catholic also takes a wedding vow, he’s supposed to actually mean it, take it before God.

I knew a lady who was a devout Catholic but was married to someone who was…not sure if he was an agnostic or what he was. They ended up doing a lot of things separately, but in her case, she had to accept him. They had to try harder to accept each other.

She would flex on the issues, once went with him to a nudist colony, things of that nature, to try to compromise. Each side had to compromise their beliefs to get along.
 
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