IM3RD:
wolpertinger – you are so far behind in this experiment, it escapes description.
The infinite co-relation of time, space and being *should *be evidence enough. But, I suppose some folks are just a bit thicker than others.
Why is our solar system specifically set up to “guard” the earth? Did you know that Jupiter is set up in just a way and orbits in a pattern that protects the earth from incoming debri from our galaxy?
Is that “just a coincidence” too? Virtually all of the planets in our solar system serve a purpose that supports life on earth. How somebody can believe that it is all just “random chance” is well beyond my comprehension.
Your premise is so flawed that it defies logic. How much wisdom/knowledge do you think has been gleaned over the years in all fields including all the sciences, differing fields of philosophy, and the innumerable religions? To fully support atheism, one is saying that they have examined ALL the information out there and come to the conclusion that God does not exist.
It seems apparent that you are searching for God just like the rest of us, or you wouldn’t have joined a Christian related internet message board. Unless, of course, you are just the standard “troll” that all BBS forums get. In which case I would feel saddened by your unfulfilling existence.
at the end of the day, though, space ghost said it best…
For those that don’t believe… there is no explanation…
For those that do believe… no explanation is necessary…
Kind regards.
If you can’t make an argument without resorting to the ad hominem fallacy, you would be better advised to remain silent. Please remember the question posed in the opening post and reflect on what your use of invective will achieve.
Out of charity, I’ll give you an answer anyway - not that you appear to afford me the courtesy of answering the questions addressed to you.
Given that you make the positive claim that the configuration of the solar system serves a purpose, it is up to you to rule out a coincidental origin. To state that it necessarily demonstrates a purpose because the alternative is beyond your comprehension is nothing but the argument from ignorance.
Science is orthogonal to religion and certainly makes no claim regarding the existence of a deity or the lack thereof. Philosophy has not delivered a persuasive argument either way and likely never will. I am troubled, however, by your use of the argumentum ad numerum fallacy with regards to innumerable other religions. Not because you commmit the fallacy per se, but for the implicit assumption that religions other than Christianity have any validity. I was not aware that Christian dogma permits this; maybe somebody well versed in Christian theology can settle this point for us?
Your proposition that I conclude that God does not exist is false. I lack belief in theism, no more, no less. Either I do not articulate my position clearly or you project your prejudices.
Finally, you can rest assured that I neither seek god, nor that I am a troll, nor that I am open to conversion, nor that I try to convert a theist. Some theists respectfully present their case in atheist forums (while many more unabashedly proselytize) and I simply wish to address the misconceptions that many Christians exhibit regarding atheists.
To conclude this post, if you cannot answer in a civil and substantive manner you forfeit the debate. It’s your call.
Admit you don’t know, but certainly leave open the possibility.
