Attended my first ever tridentine Mass

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I liked it, even though I hadn’t a clue what what being prayed.

Priest mentioned that Mass was in the extraordinary form (from 1962). Is this form considered the tridentine Mass?

Some observations: somehow I missed the recitation of the Our Father ( didn’t notice any of the laity saying it). Is the Our Father said at such a Mass? Also, the gospel reading differed from the reading from the misselete. The homily was surprising very short–like 3 minutes. At reception of the Eucharist, those receiving are not to say “amen”. Why is that ? I liked the solemnity of this Mass and although music was brief, was very nice.
 
RosslynV said:
I liked it, even though I hadn’t a clue what what being prayed.

Priest mentioned that Mass was in the extraordinary form (from 1962). Is this form considered the tridentine Mass?

Some observations: somehow I missed the recitation of the Our Father ( didn’t notice any of the laity saying it). Is the Our Father said at such a Mass? Also, the gospel reading differed from the reading from the misselete. The homily was surprising very short–like 3 minutes. At reception of the Eucharist, those receiving are not to say “amen”. Why is that ? I liked the solemnity of this Mass and although music was brief, was very nice.
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Yes, the Our Father was probably prayed, albeit by the priest alone. The laity (or servers if it was a non-dialogue Mass) probably recited only the “but deliver us from evil” part.

The Tridentine Masses uses a different lectionary than the novus ordo, so if that’s the Missalette you were using, that’d explain the difference. Conversely, if it was a small little pocketbook that was set out specifically for that Mass, it’s possible the readings (and other propers) in there were for one particular Mass only (usually the votive Mass for the Holy Spirit), in which case they are useful only for following the ordinaries of the Mass.

The words for distributing communion are different. In the old form, the priest says “Corpus Domini nostri Jesu Christi custodiat animam tuam in vitam aeternam, amen,” or “May the body of Our Lord Jesus Christ bring your soul to life everlasting, amen.” In other words, he is praying for you while he gives you communion, so there is nothing for you to affirm by saying “amen.” In the new form, it’s more of a propositional/affirmational thing: the priest says “the body of Christ,” as if to say “this thing which I am giving you is the body of Christ,” and you signal your agreement with that proposition by saying “Amen.”

Glad you liked it!
 
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Also, the gospel reading differed from the reading from the misselete.
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If you’re trying to follow the readings from the red missalettes or the normative Mass (OF), the gospel reading will in all likelihood be different. Hopefully the priest has distributed handouts. Or you can bring your own handmissal, if you have one, or borrow one, to follow along.
 
Yippie! I’m so happy for you. I envy you a wee bit. I sincerely wish this luxury was available to me here where I live at least once a month. I’d love to go.

Glenda
 
The TLM is extraordinarily beautiful, isn’t it? After you go a handful of times you’ll be able to follow along much more easily. Also memorizing a few basic prayers used in the Mass (if you don’t already know them) will help tremendously.
 
Glad you enjoyed it, it is beautiful…but please disregard the Ordinary Form of the Mass being referred to as the Novus Ordo. It is not “new”…its over 50 years old…it is not “experimental”, it is a valid form of the Mass.

We are blessed with two forms of the Mass, one maybe able to boast the claim as “preferred”, but faithful Catholics must be very careful not to assail the character or validity of the Ordinary Form.
 
I’m glad that you were able to get to a Tridentine Mass. I thought you were longing to go for some time now. It gets more comfortable if you go regularly and you naturally start to pick up on what’s going on, what the priest is saying/doing, and so forth. The first time I went to a TLM I was quite lost but now I can follow along pretty easily.
 
I remember when I went on a two week vacation I went to the nearest Catholic church on Sundays, its form was actually tridentine. It surprised me because I have never been to one before and didn’t think many churches still used them. But I enjoyed it. Very beautiful.
 
Neofight said:
Glad you enjoyed it, it is beautiful…but please disregard the Ordinary Form of the Mass being referred to as the Novus Ordo. It is not “new”…its over 50 years old…it is not “experimental”, it is a valid form of the Mass.

We are blessed with two forms of the Mass, one maybe able to boast the claim as “preferred”, but faithful Catholics must be very careful not to assail the character or validity of the Ordinary Form.
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It’s called the Novus Ordo…No one questions the validity to the Novus Ordo.
 
Discerning13 said:
It’s called the Novus Ordo…No one questions the validity to the Novus Ordo.
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The proper and appropriate term for what some still erroneously call the “Novus Ordo” is the “Mass in Ordinary Form”. And yes, sorry to say, there are plenty who question or deny its validity. Thankfully, none have shown up on this current thread.

Below, Br Jay explains the misunderstanding of calling the Mass in OF the “Novus Ordo”:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=11478809&postcount=47

(You can see the obnoxious and rude member he was kindly replying to has since been banned. I don’t like to use this post since such a rude person was posting on it, but thankfully the moderators removed future posting privileges from the chap and Brother’s explanation is clear and concise)
 
Discerning13 said:
It’s called the Novus Ordo…No one questions the validity to the Novus Ordo.
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I never made such claims about anyone claiming the invalidity of the OF in this thread.

But, what I did say stands correct.

It is no longer officially referred to as Novus Ordo (or worse "Mass of Pope Paul VI)…it is the Ordinary Form.

Novus Ordo and TLM are both slang. They are, the Ordinary and Extraordinary Form, respectively.
 
Neofight said:
I never made such claims about anyone claiming the invalidity of the OF in this thread.

But, what I did say stands correct.

It is no longer officially referred to as Novus Ordo (or worse "Mass of Pope Paul VI)…it is the Ordinary Form.

Novus Ordo and TLM are both slang. They are, the Ordinary and Extraordinary Form, respectively.
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Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite & Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite.

🙂
 
Neofight said:
Yes…Even better:thumbsup:

But certainly not Novus Ordo or Mass of Paul VI!
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From the clarification of the 2007 SP

vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_commissions/ecclsdei/documents/rc_com_ecclsdei_doc_20110430_istr-universae-ecclesiae_en.html
  1. The Roman Missal promulgated by Pope Paul VI and the last edition prepared under Pope John XXIII, are two forms of the Roman Liturgy, defined respectively as ordinaria and extraordinaria: they are two usages of the one Roman Rite, one alongside the other. Both are the expression of the same lex orandi of the Church. On account of its venerable and ancient use, the forma extraordinaria is to be maintained with appropriate honor.
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Why the obsession with policing people’s language? We’re not writing canonically-binding legal memos here, we’re talking casually on an Internet forum.
 
sw85 said:
Why the obsession with policing people’s language? We’re not writing canonically-binding legal memos here, we’re talking casually on an Internet forum.
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Because, like it or not, language defines culture…and in case you haven’t been paying attention, a certain segment of the CAF membership beats others to death with legalism and terminology, and they need to be reminded they can’t pick and choose, it applies to all of us, or applies to none of us.
 
To me, there is just something so exceedingly beautiful about the TLM. It has a beauty all its own! But for the absolute life of me, I can’t even begin to understand why the Extraordinary Form Mass always seems to be for some such a bone of contention…Go figure! 🤷

Peace, Mark
 
Hello SW.
sw85 said:
Why the obsession with policing people’s language? We’re not writing canonically-binding legal memos here, we’re talking casually on an Internet forum.
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Because some folks launch out on a fault finding mission every day and cannot rest at all or even look in the mirror at themselves unless they’ve pulled half of humanity down to their level by continually finding all their mistakes and harping on each and everyone. Most folks simply aren’t allowed to be human around these types. So be careful and put on your best walking-on-eggshells-shoes for the journey.

Glenda
 
LightBound said:
The proper and appropriate term for what some still erroneously call the “Novus Ordo” is the “Mass in Ordinary Form”. And yes, sorry to say, there are plenty who question or deny its validity. Thankfully, none have shown up on this current thread.

Below, Br Jay explains the misunderstanding of calling the Mass in OF the “Novus Ordo”:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=11478809&postcount=47

(You can see the obnoxious and rude member he was kindly replying to has since been banned. I don’t like to use this post since such a rude person was posting on it, but thankfully the moderators removed future posting privileges from the chap and Brother’s explanation is clear and concise)
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Thanks for the link – to Br. Jay’s post.
 
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