Attending Mass at your local parish

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Can anyone find mapped out parish boundaries on this website? It is the website of St. Paul/ Minneapolis Archdiocese.
 
OK, thanks. It is very interesting…NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE has ever discussed those or talked about those at my church, and I’ve attended there for over 20 years.

When I go to my church’s website and enter “parish boundaries” into their search bar, I get several hits on Virtus classes and books discussing abuse.
 
OK, thanks. It is very interesting…NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE has ever discussed those or talked about those at my church, and I’ve attended there for over 20 years.

When I go to my church’s website and enter “parish boundaries” into their search bar, I get several hits on Virtus classes and books discussing abuse.
Fair enough. But none of that is an indication that parish boundaries don’t exist. I’ve never seen the Great Wall of China, but that doesn’t mean it’s somehow not there.

To what degree these are emphasized is certainly going to vary from one place to another. But again that doesn’t change how the Church defines a parish–and that definition is a group of people within a certain defined territory.
 
I grew up in California. I’ve always liked California. I’ve always been a good citizen there. I’ve voted in every election since my 18th birthday.

A few years ago, I moved to Nevada, where I now live. I’ve always kept up my practice of voting in California. You see, I live near the state line and it’s just a few minutes drive for me to go back home and vote every November in my home precinct.

I went on an internet forum and asked around. At least a dozen people told me that they vote in a state other than where they live, and they tell me they’ve never (never ever) had any problems.



The last time I tried to vote in California, the poll worker asked me for an ID and I dutifully showed my Nevada drivers license. I was told that I cannot vote in California because I don’t live there.



This is an outrage! A state isn’t some imaginary lines drawn on a map, a state is a community, and I should be able to be part of whatever community I prefer without having to worry about some arbitrary rules about “residence” whatever that’s supposed to mean.

You’re my lawyer. Fix this. We’re going to court. Don’t worry because I have all the evidence we need. I printed out those internet posts telling me that I don’t have to worry about which side of the state line I live on, because it doesn’t matter.



But I am curious what your reaction would hypothetically be???
Trust me, Father, I Have pretty much the same problems that you do with what people learned on the Internet, and the “my sister’s divorce” school of law . .

anyway, as you’ve described it, this client now seems to be a resident of Nevada; game over; we’re not suing. You can’t vote in California.

But with some small tweaks, it’s not clear cut.

Why are you now in Nevada? are you here temporarily for a job or education? With the intent to return to California as soon as possible? Did you keep your home in California?

Under these circumstances, you might well still be a resident of California, and only be able to vote there.

When I closed my practice in 1994 and went to ISU for my Ph.D., I remained a silent of Nevada. I kept my house, intended to return to it in 1998, and to take the opening that would occur that year in Law and Economics at UNLV.

(While there, I was initially at the university parish or mission, but switched over to what I understand was the territorial parish that included the University.)

I filed non-resident taxreturns in those states, and obtained absentee ballots from Nevada, my true home and residence. There was also never a time when I did not intend to return to Nevada at the first opportunity, the key difference from your example.

DuBois was perplexing for me, as there were no territorial parish’s.

There is also an inconsistency between the concepts of “domicile” and “residency” in civil law, with the words meaning different things and trading places in different parts of law.

Interestingly, there is a Nevada case, out of the Bankruptcy Court, if memory serves, on residency, which came up when claiming a homestead in Nevada while out of state. It turned on the fact that the person maintained membership in his lodge and church while away, evidencing his intent to return to his home.

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Sorry to sound harsh, but I am seeing the effects of people leaving the local parish for any number of reasons.

Put it this way: Jesus said love your neighbor as yourself. Not love whoever makes you feel happy and welcome.

It is a divisive tool to scatter the sheep. How can we know our neighbors if we are attending Mass elsewhere?

One example. There is a nasty mean old man that is sowing discord in our parish. He lurks on the front step of the parish before Mass glowering at everyone; and he goes from person to person complaining and spreading ugly gossip. Why must people be cowards and leave? If they only became more involved with parish life they would see he’s full of hot air.

Additionally, you can think of it like a marriage: if you feel like you always have an out, you never really try to make it work. Your local parish NEEDs you. If not you, then who? Do you really need to cave to the “unwelcoming people”?

If there’s something you like at another parish, why not try to bring that to yours. Just please don’t expect to make it happen overnight or w/o lots of prayer.

Good question - and thanks for the great response, FrDavid96; I’m going to share this with our parishioners. Maybe it will help. (Oh and please pray for our parish - it’s in a bad way).
Amen.
 
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