ATTENTION ATHEISTS: Your argument is weak! [edited title]

[ateista]

Hello ateista:

I meant to add, that when Christ said the above line (paraphrased) to Thomas He actually did “handle” it. He said, “Thomas, you’re a nice fellow and because I like you, and because this may help future generations of disbelievers, I’m going to let you in on who I am.”

“BUT, blessed is he that believes in me but has not seen me.” (Paraphrased)

The “but” is simply not there, is it? So you paraphrase it, which is your prerogative, but I cannot really accept it. And of course there are “us” who do not care to be “bleesed”, (since we do not believe), but we would be better off by knowing.

With all due respect, who are you to dictate how He will “handle” His creation from that point on? Seems presumptious to the point of arrogance.

Why would it be presumptuous to take someone by his word?

I am not saying this necessarily of you, but, there are a number of people who would arrogantly place themselves above God by presumming that he “ought” to do thus and so - at their exquisite whim.

If someone gives a promise, then it is quite natural to expect the promise to be fulfilled. I simply cannot think that such an expectation is “arrogant”.

To say that such a simple quotation is not to be taken literally, and it must be “translated” by the Church leads to the conclusion, that by Church’s interpretation, when Jesus said “yes” it actually means “no”, simply because the promise is definitely not kept. A much better explanation would be that the person who wrote down the message made a huge blunder…

By the way, I still have no regular access to a computer, so it may take time before I am able to conduct a serious conversation.

 

[Nepenthe]

Oh hey, JD…I can actually contribute, in the simplest possible way, to our sadly-cutoff discussion, here.

The brain appears to likely be a quantum-state machine. (So are our noses, by the way - the olfactory system is the only part of our sensorium that doesn’t hitch a ride on the rest of the nervous system - little known and interesting fact!)

So the mechanics involved are quite possibly quite different than ‘simple’ electromechanics.

Just teasing and leading away here, hoping for more serious discussion. Forgive me, those working with more-traditional tools, okay? I am by no means disparaging such discussion - far from it!