Australia, attack on seal of confession: government official pressures archbishop to have his priests tell police about crimes revealed in confession

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The seal of the confessional is sacred. There are other and better ways for law enforcement to obtain information and ascertain details about crimes. If religion is to be respected at all, this important component of our faith must never be breached.
 
The flaw in the system is that it requires the priest to know the identity of the penitent - not just to be able to see their face but, in order to make a report of any value, actually know their name and contact information. Obviously, if it’s someone I know personally (like another priest) then that’s easy enough - although even then, I don’t have contact details for all of my parishioners. Of course, the whole requirement to report falls down if there’s nothing meaningful that can be reported because the priest didn’t know the penitent. It’s all well and good for someone - even another priest - to say that they confessed to me but if I don’t know them from Adam then there’s nothing for me to report. The law doesn’t require priests to ask for the name of the person confessing to them (nor would I) . Besides this, a lot also depends on what’s actually said - if a person confesses to committing “impure acts with another” a priest isn’t going to be asking then to delve into the details. At most they may ask the person if they’re married but that’s it. While a priest should disclose his status to a confessor, strictly speaking his doesn’t have to and, absent personal knowledge, the confessor will be none the wiser. So all a pedophile has to do is go to a priest who doesn’t know him - easy enough in a large diocese or one with other dioceses nearby.

Ultimately, this is just a law intended to make politicians look good but which in reality is practically useless.
 
if a person confesses to committing “impure acts with another” a priest isn’t going to be asking then to delve into the details. At most they may ask the person if they’re married but that’s it. While a priest should disclose his status to a confessor, strictly speaking his doesn’t have to and, absent personal knowledge, the confessor will be none the wiser. So all a pedophile has to do is go to a priest who doesn’t know him - easy enough in a large diocese or one with other dioceses nearby.
It seems that if it involved someone under the age of consent that would change the act and should be mentioned. However, until reading that it wouldn’t have occurred to me that it could be used for child abuse.
 
Never yield to the mob. They’ll keep asking for more, and never be satisfied. Stand your ground for what is right to protect the Sacraments.
 
It seems that if it involved someone under the age of consent that would change the act and should be mentioned.
Sure but it still relies on the person confessing to actually mention that important fact. If they don’t, then there’s no way for a priest to know because he sure as anything isn’t going to ask! Even if they did though, that doesn’t actually help very much as far as reporting is concerned unless, as I said above, the penitent is actually known to the priest.
 
Even if they did though, that doesn’t actually help very much as far as reporting is concerned unless, as I said above, the penitent is actually known to the priest.
I agree there.
Sure but it still relies on the person confessing to actually mention that important fact.
Out of interest how would that impact the validity of the Confession?

I suspect if the peninent thought they were clear it would be valid, and if they were deliberately misleading the priest it would be invalid but I’m curious.
 
Out of interest how would that impact the validity of the Confession?

I suspect if the peninent thought they were clear it would be valid, and if they were deliberately misleading the priest it would be invalid but I’m curious.
Most probably yes, if there’s a deliberate intent to deceive.
If there has ever been a time for mandated confessional screens…
I think I’m right in saying that the Archdiocese of Sydney has already done so. That said, a confessional isn’t the only place for hearing confessions.
 
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