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[Veronica_Anne]

Salvo:

Great. Then I will continue to correct you by remindin you when you are taking yourself way too seriously and hurting the feelings of others who are merely trying to brighten things up around here.

Salvo, maybe your point will be made more clear if you talk in the first person… and say directly as a mature person that your feelings were hurt when that person (whomever that person is) said what they said.

Unfortunately, dancing around things with sarcasm and perceived humor (on your part) doesn’t translate clearly.

And each of us pulls down judgement on our own heads when we judge others.

:twocents:

 

[Veronica_Anne]

Thomas2:

Maybe that’s all God wanted from me anyway - to get a closer look at how much others are missing when they wander after this stuff and how complacent I must have been becoming in taking His mercy to me for granted.

Or, not. Maybe he wanted for your witness to reach so many, many more people by posting your story of your recent experiences in addressing the chasm of faith between JW and Christianity. Think of how very many people visit this discussion forum… and not just the ones who post from time to time.

:ehh:

Thomas2:

Please, all of you, pray for these poor lost souls. If you could only see how sad their children look - they are given a god that is no-god and no real sacramental grace at all to get through life. I can’t imagine how isolated and alone they must feel.

Peace and all good,

Thomas2

See? That’s EXACTLY what I’m talking about, dear Thomas.

Your witness of your experience… followed up by a call to act in a loving way. Prayer is definitely VERY powerful.

Thanks for hanging in there… for as long as is reasonably, as well as unreasonably, possible… and especially, ESPECIALLY for keeping on posting your story!!

:bowdown2: :bible1:

(p.s. sheesh… you are anything BUT a “disabled” widow!!)

 

[BenRosa]

I purchased a batch of “Pilar of Fire, Pilar of Truth” and started exchanging literature with them. After the first exchange, they came back the next week with one of their “big guns”. Again, I gave this fallen Catholic one of my papmlets…(after asking him to explain the first few passages of John’s gospel to me) they haven’t been back since.

Not that I don’t want them to come around…they do need our guidance (and prayer). In fact, it was a JW woman who got me back into practicing and learning about Catholicism again after leaving me feeling pretty ignorant about my own “faith” during some exchanges. Now they have won over a soul for Christ and I genuinely thank them for that. Every dark cloud has a silver lining.

 

[Count_Chocula]

BenRosa:

I purchased a batch of “Pilar of Fire, Pilar of Truth” and started exchanging literature with them. After the first exchange, they came back the next week with one of their “big guns”. Again, I gave this fallen Catholic one of my papmlets…(after asking him to explain the first few passages of John’s gospel to me) they haven’t been back since.

Not that I don’t want them to come around…they do need our guidance (and prayer). In fact, it was a JW woman who got me back into practicing and learning about Catholicism again after leaving me feeling pretty ignorant about my own “faith” during some exchanges. Now they have won over a soul for Christ and I genuinely thank them for that. Every dark cloud has a silver lining.

It’s funny you should mention that because religious badgering on account of some Mormons and peeps from the Church of Christ is what got me studying Catholicism and realizing there’s a good reason it’s been around for 2000 or so years.

 

[Weezir]

One Saturday morning the doorbell rang. I answered the door in my pajamas only to find to men (JWs) on my deck. They were handing me a copy of the Watchtower when my husband came out of the bedroom with Pillar of Truth Pillar of Fire in his hand. He said the only way we would accept their pamphlet is if they accepted ours. They said they were at our doorstep and we could go to their doorstep if we wanted to give them some literature. They refused to accept it so my husband refused to take theirs. What they did do is set up a bible study for the following Saturday. My husband read the Apologetics books thoroughly all week and studied dilligently. One of the men came at the appointment time with a young boy, 17 if I remember right. My husband was the bomb! He picked the divinity of Christ to start out talking about. Well the elder JW didn’t want to do that but he finally agreed. It was something else! Their bibles certainly are different. Because they changed scripture, doesn’t that put them in the category of being a cult?
We had another friend of ours here for the 3 hour study and after they were gone she asked what the point was. They didn’t convince us and we didn’t convince them. My husband said something really cool. He said that boy was still impressionable and we may have planted a little seed of doubt.
So I guess we just keep on being Catholic and being good examples to them.
BTW, for a month these people tried to come back into our home but our schedules were really packed on the weekends. We haven’t seen them now in almost a year!
God Bless them and pray that they see the light!
~Weezir

 

[Thomas2]

Wow - Thank you all for the nice things you’ve said and the encouragement.

Guess what I got in the mail today? A “Thank You” note from my two JW’s of all things. I’m not sure if they mean this sarcastically or what, but I’ll take it to mean something nice and offer it up. Go figure.

Strider - talk about frustrating - every time we’d go over a passage that had the names of God the Father and Jesus Christ together, the younger JW would chime “two persons, two!” at me - “two names means two DIFFERENT people!” UGH.

Georgia - PLEASE don’t beat yourself up at all - you told them the TRUTH! Just try to do it a little slower next time! Both the things you said are quick and accurate appraisals of what they sell. The ultimate fraud is trying to pass themselves off as Christians. Both my JWs got an earful on more than one night about that. That may have been what sparked my confrontation the other night. Dunno. One thing is always clear - the ring of the Truth in one’s ears.

BenRosa and Count Chocula - Yippiedoodles and praise the Lord! Both of you back and better for it!

Salvo - thank you for your opinion and concern for my soul’s salvation. BTW - I’m a woman and Thomas is just my nickname so skip the Brothah stuff, okay?

Veronica - I made quickie cuke salad - ice cold cukes sliced thin with good Vidalia onions sliced (gotta be genuine Georgia Vidalia’s or nuthin’) toss with sour cream and your favorite ranch dressing and chill. I used a bacon ranch that’s outta this world. It’s better the next day so if you can let it sit. The slower way has more ingredients, but it’s basically the same as a ranch dressing with sour cream. I love to cook but hate the dishes it makes. My hubby did dishes so it was a pretty good deal. Now, I live alone and only my guardian angel sees them pile up! LOL. Oh and don’t forget to put a few drops of Holy Water in there if you’re serving JW’s at dinner. I kinda wonder what all that Holy Water will do in a few years? Think I used enough to water all the seeds that got sown??? Matter of fact, if the hubby and kiddies are getting on your nerves, a few drops of Holy Water in the stewpot can’t hurt!

Peace and all good,

Thomas2

 

[Veronica_Anne]

Weezir:

Their bibles certainly are different. Because they changed scripture, doesn’t that put them in the category of being a cult?

Actually, their changing the words in the Holy Scripture makes them heretics.

From the good ol’ Merriam-Webster dictionary (www.m-w.com)

Definition of heretic:

1 : a dissenter from established church dogma; especially : a baptized member of the Roman Catholic Church who disavows a revealed truth

2 : one who dissents from an accepted belief or doctrine : NONCONFORMIST

Definition of cult:

Main Entry: cult
Usage: often attributive

Etymology: French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate – more at WHEEL

1 : formal religious veneration : WORSHIP

2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents

3 : a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents

4 : a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator

5 a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion

 

[Veronica_Anne]

Thomas2:

Wow - Thank you all for the nice things you’ve said and the encouragement.

Guess what I got in the mail today? A “Thank You” note from my two JW’s of all things. I’m not sure if they mean this sarcastically or what, but I’ll take it to mean something nice and offer it up. Go figure.

…

Veronica - I made quickie cuke salad - ice cold cukes sliced thin with good Vidalia onions sliced (gotta be genuine Georgia Vidalia’s or nuthin’) toss with sour cream and your favorite ranch dressing and chill. I used a bacon ranch that’s outta this world. It’s better the next day so if you can let it sit. The slower way has more ingredients, but it’s basically the same as a ranch dressing with sour cream. I love to cook but hate the dishes it makes. My hubby did dishes so it was a pretty good deal. Now, I live alone and only my guardian angel sees them pile up! LOL. Oh and don’t forget to put a few drops of Holy Water in there if you’re serving JW’s at dinner. I kinda wonder what all that Holy Water will do in a few years? Think I used enough to water all the seeds that got sown??? Matter of fact, if the hubby and kiddies are getting on your nerves, a few drops of Holy Water in the stewpot can’t hurt!

Peace and all good,

Thomas2

You’re welcome for the encouragement, Thomas2! It’s the least we can do!

For that “thank you” note, I’d count that up as simply (and most probably?) part of their usual routine for “serving” (a.k.a. “witnessing”). Besides, it doesn’t hurt anybody to say “thanks.”

And thank you for your cucumber recipe! I’ll look for that kind of onion… does it come in a bottle?

Your sister in Christ,
Veronica Anne

P.S. I thought you were a man all this time, too.

 

[Thomas2]

Veronica,

At risk of sounding trite, widow and widower are the way we know the guys from the gals.

And under NO circumstances should you look for a Vidalia onion in a bottle!! :bigyikes: They come from a small place in Georgia that has special soil that turns them the way they are. There are other “sweet” onions, but the real thing is from Georgia. I lived there for a while and there ain’t nothin’ like 'em. You can actually bite right into them and eat them. I didn’t believe that until my father-in-law showed me how to do it and so I bit one and the rest is history…shoot now they export them to other countries as a “gormet” item which I’m sure gives the farmers down in Georgia a good chuckle or two.

Hmmmmm…should we get a category for ladies only who want to exchange recipies around here? As you’ll see by my hesistance to bite into an silly little onion, that I’m quite a little Doubting Thomas too - thus my nickname.

Peace and all good,

Thomas2
P.S. Are you any relation to Veronica of the Veil? I met a sister up in Syracuse whose got that nickname.

 

[Veronica_Anne]

Thomas2:

Veronica,

At risk of sounding trite, widow and widower are the way we know the guys from the gals.

And under NO circumstances should you look for a Vidalia onion in a bottle!! :bigyikes: They come from a small place in Georgia that has special soil that turns them the way they are. There are other “sweet” onions, but the real thing is from Georgia. I lived there for a while and there ain’t nothin’ like 'em. You can actually bite right into them and eat them. I didn’t believe that until my father-in-law showed me how to do it and so I bit one and the rest is history…shoot now they export them to other countries as a “gormet” item which I’m sure gives the farmers down in Georgia a good chuckle or two.

Hmmmmm…should we get a category for ladies only who want to exchange recipies around here? As you’ll see by my hesistance to bite into an silly little onion, that I’m quite a little Doubting Thomas too - thus my nickname.

Peace and all good,

Thomas2
P.S. Are you any relation to Veronica of the Veil? I met a sister up in Syracuse whose got that nickname.

Um, after Mom died, Dad referred to himself as a widow. It’s not like it’s one of those things that actresses anymore are insulted if you do not refer to them as an “actor.” Dad just referred to himself a “widow.”

No… I just changed my name when I became of age to include “Veronica” in my middle name because I so much liked that particular Station of the Cross where Veronica wipes the face of Jesus. I want to be like her. I don’t have any relatives named “Veronica of the Veil,” per se.

thanks… hey, anymore, ya never know… can you imagine!! A couple of years ago I actually saw artichoke hearts in a bottle! But never until I moved away from the San Joaquin Valley area in California where we have the Artichoke Capital of the World == Castroville, CA!

beachcalifornia.com/castrov.html

One hundred percent of all artichokes grown commercially in the United States are grown in California. Approximately 75 percent of the state’s total acreage lies within Monterey County. And while artichokes were ranked only 11th in crop value for this agriculturally rich area, with an estimated worth more than $37 million, growers point proudly to the fact that the artichoke is the county’s Official Vegetable.

An annual artichoke festival is the big event around these parts. Like the garlic promoters in Gilroy and the broccoli farmers nearby, locals know how to make artichokes into many food items you have never imagined. The festival is a wonderful time to visit and prepare your taste buds for some gourmet dining. Sec the California Events page for the date of the festival.

Stop at one of the artichoke restaurants and dine on farm fresh produce, including some of the biggest artichokes available on the planet! Two major artichoke packers are located here, along with the nation’s only artichoke processing plant. Is it any wonder that the townspeople have proclaimed Castroville “The Artichoke Center of the World,” and that they celebrate with the annual Artichoke Festival in May?

Are there any Georgia festivals for those onions?

And why would you ever want to limit a category for those who want to exchange recipes to only women???